Somehow... this article sounds about right.

WVUBRU

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I never said it here but have said it to my son who is about the only one I verbally talk politics with. It was my belief all last summer and fall Trump wanted to be in the news and influence the political landscape. But a funny thing happened. There are more ignorant fools in this country than he thought and he was able to garner their support. You can see on his face during debates that he knows he is over his head. But it is now too late to do anything but move forward.
 

rog1187

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I never said it here but have said it to my son who is about the only one I verbally talk politics with. It was my belief all last summer and fall Trump wanted to be in the news and influence the political landscape. But a funny thing happened. There are more ignorant fools in this country than he thought and he was able to garner their support. You can see on his face during debates that he knows he is over his head. But it is now too late to do anything but move forward.
His rise will be a phenomenon for someone to dissect in the future...I never thought he'd make it past 30% support and now he's reaching 50%. On the other side you have someone that has major trust issues and is being investigated by the FBI and the other candidate is an avowed Socialist.

I go back to this - the rise of Trump and Sanders is because there are a lot of people that want change...what happens if either of those two get elected and they can't follow through on their 'promises'? What happens if Hillary gets elected - she's not advocating much if any change.
 

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His rise will be a phenomenon for someone to dissect in the future...I never thought he'd make it past 30% support and now he's reaching 50%. On the other side you have someone that has major trust issues and is being investigated by the FBI and the other candidate is an avowed Socialist.

I go back to this - the rise of Trump and Sanders is because there are a lot of people that want change...what happens if either of those two get elected and they can't follow through on their 'promises'? What happens if Hillary gets elected - she's not advocating much if any change.
My problem with the thought of wanting "change" , one must understand whether or not the change is good. Blind decision making is rarely the right direction.
 

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My problem with the thought of wanting "change" , one must understand whether or not the change is good. Blind decision making is rarely the right direction.
Only took you the last 7 years to figure that out. Awesome!!!
 

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Only took you the last 7 years to figure that out. Awesome!!!
Wrong again in so many ways. Typical.

And don't reply back with your usual whining about my comment. If you don't want my response, quit being an ahole. But that is natural for scum so it might be tough
 

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My problem with the thought of wanting "change" , one must understand whether or not the change is good. Blind decision making is rarely the right direction.
That's where leadership comes in...and we haven't had any/much in the past several years.
 

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I never said it here but have said it to my son who is about the only one I verbally talk politics with. It was my belief all last summer and fall Trump wanted to be in the news and influence the political landscape. But a funny thing happened. There are more ignorant fools in this country than he thought and he was able to garner their support. You can see on his face during debates that he knows he is over his head. But it is now too late to do anything but move forward.
I thought this early on. In fact I even considered the possibility that his attacks on Muslims, Mexicans, McCain, etc. were intended in a twisted way to pollute his campaign and sway voters away, but it had the opposite effect. I personally don't see him enduring 4 years of being POTUS. He needs to work with Washington and neither side of the aisle will have the time of day for him. Unlike the real estate world where you don't need friends, you just have to be better than anyone else, Washington would be a toxic environment for him if he becomes POTUS.
 

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I thought this early on. In fact I even considered the possibility that his attacks on Muslims, Mexicans, McCain, etc. were intended in a twisted way to pollute his campaign and sway voters away, but it had the opposite effect. I personally don't see him enduring 4 years of being POTUS. He needs to work with Washington and neither side of the aisle will have the time of day for him. Unlike the real estate world where you don't need friends, you just have to be better than anyone else, Washington would be a toxic environment for him if he becomes POTUS.
Maybe he's hoping for a brokered convention so he can slip away and let someone else have the nominee...or maybe have a say in who the nominee is.
 

bamaEER

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Maybe he's hoping for a brokered convention so he can slip away and let someone else have the nominee...or maybe have a say in who the nominee is.
Who knows. Nothing about his candidacy makes any sense.
 

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Who knows. Nothing about his candidacy makes any sense.
You know he likes to be a builder...maybe he wanted all along to mold the GOP nomination process...and now he's in a good position to be a part of the selection if he wanted to bow out through a brokered convention.
 

bamaEER

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You know he likes to be a builder...maybe he wanted all along to mold the GOP nomination process...and now he's in a good position to be a part of the selection if he wanted to bow out through a brokered convention.
Wow. That would be a huge pie in the face of his supporters. They want him because he's not one of the establishment. And in the end, Trump would help pick one of the establishment.

Trumpites would jump off buildings en masse.
 

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Trumpites would jump off buildings en masse.
Meh, would be a net positive in the grand scheme. Maybe offer a free plant to the first 50 or something. That way we could attract some of the far left Bernie crazies as well. We know how much they like free ****.
 

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Wrong again in so many ways. Typical.

And don't reply back with your usual whining about my comment. If you don't want my response, quit being an ahole. But that is natural for scum so it might be tough
Whining? I just feel pity for you.
 

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Good to know. Now go kiss dave and THE *** some more.

Scum
It's ok Bru.

I don't kiss either one's ***, have actually disagreed with Dave on a number of topics. I merely posted what I did as far as bullying to be a smart ***. WTE views and my own are pretty similar yet we do disagree.

The hilarious thing is that you debase yourself every time you make your comments. Doesn't bother me. Must be bad for someone who is scum to not even respect you. Wonder what that makes you? I mean other than the extremely hypocritical old man that you are.
 

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I go back to this - the rise of Trump and Sanders

This is really interesting to me. Now, I'm not advocating Sanders, so don't take this that way but:

People say they like Trump because he can't be bought. Everybody else is bought and paid for though, except Sanders. It's fine and noble for the President to be above bribery, but Sanders is the only one pushing to change the whole system.

Trump supporters lash out at Hillary for being a liar. No argument there, although Trump lies all the time too. I don't think he has any concept of what is factually true, his truth is whatever he wants it to be at that moment. Sanders hasn't really lied about anything. He does very well when Politifact checks his statements and assertions. Probably better than anybody else in the race.

There's any number of reasons why Sanders isn't a good choice, but it just strikes me that some of the big talking points people try to use regarding Trump are actually more applicable to Sanders.
 

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This is really interesting to me. Now, I'm not advocating Sanders, so don't take this that way but:

People say they like Trump because he can't be bought. Everybody else is bought and paid for though, except Sanders. It's fine and noble for the President to be above bribery, but Sanders is the only one pushing to change the whole system.

Trump supporters lash out at Hillary for being a liar. No argument there, although Trump lies all the time too. I don't think he has any concept of what is factually true, his truth is whatever he wants it to be at that moment. Sanders hasn't really lied about anything. He does very well when Politifact checks his statements and assertions. Probably better than anybody else in the race.

There's any number of reasons why Sanders isn't a good choice, but it just strikes me that some of the big talking points people try to use regarding Trump are actually more applicable to Sanders.
Oh I give Sanders credit - from what I can tell he tells you how he see's it and doesn't seem to be swayed by any special interest.
 

WhiteTailEER

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Oh I give Sanders credit - from what I can tell he tells you how he see's it and doesn't seem to be swayed by any special interest.

I quoted your post, but my statement wasn't directed to you specifically. It was just a good jumping in point.