Someone on BDJ just said he heard Stans is retiring after SECT

maroonmania

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assuming Bost and Sidney come back we should have a better team next year than we did this year assuming our players avoid getting suspended for half the year again. Of course I know with our program those are pretty big assumptions.
 

weblow

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maroonmania said:
assuming Bost and Sidney come back we should have a better team next year than we did this year assuming our players avoid getting suspended for half the year again. Of course I know with our program those are pretty big assumptions.


That, and Stans seems to give less of a **** this year. I don't mean that to bash him, he just seems to not have his heart into it the way he used to.
 
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Wendell Lewis will be a big player, get rid of some cancers (although they are coming around now), Brian Bryant stepping up, Moultrie coming in, and the recrootin class = wool.
 

weblow

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2nd baseball loss, they will have Cohen around for another year or two to beat up on.
 

DAWG61

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next year. We lose 3 starters. We gain one juco. Don't assume **** about unproven high school seniors that havn't even graduated yet. We don't have Wall and Cousins coming in or on are team right now. Bost and Sidney are not lottery picks. The grass is always greener until your standing on the ****.
 

DawgMedic

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Benock will be easily replaced by anyone. Did you see the game today? He was craptastic.
 

DAWG61

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would Lewis be any better? Stansbury can't coach up players. We have a zero strength and conditioning program. Lewis is out of position constantly. He seems confused 100% of the time and has no offensive skill besides dunking it. If he was Varnado on defense I could see your reason for optimism but "come on man"!!!!
 

BoDawg.sixpack

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We should, God willing, have Bost for the whole season and Sidney too. That alone will make a huge difference between this year and next. Also, I hope Moultrie'snetcontributionwill be better than Kodi's. I'll admit Kodi had some good games this year but he had some that were riddled with offensive fouls, travels, bad passes, and misshandled balls.
 

DAWG61

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that is asked to contribute minutes, defense, and minimize mistakes. What's his assist/turnover ratio? 2/1. What's his 3 point %? 43%. What's his free throw %? 85%. Those are all very good numbers. Might not be as easy as you think to replace his 32 minutes a game. I like Steele but he's hurt and can't be considered as his replacement until he's fully healthy. Do you know when that will be cause I don't?
 

Coach34

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I'd be doing a happy dance like you've never seen and couldnt wait for our next hire to enjoy basketball again
 

ImHurtinLinda

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Why else would he load his entire family up after the game today, and drive to jackson in the rain to watch one of his signees play in the state champ game? Guess they are really big high school hoops fans.
 

DawgMedic

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In many of our losses, you can point out where Riley was terrible. He isn't shutting anyone down defensively. Many of the other teams' 3-pointers are because he can't stay with his man, and he makes a high percentage of threes because he passes up more shots than a nun in a nightclub. I'm talking WIDE OPEN SHOTS! He's terrible when it comes to handling the ball on the most part, and when it's passed to him you see the look on his face like "Oh 17!!! Better pass this thing before I turn it over!" The 17ing reason he has so many assists is that he's always passing the damn ball. I'm sure he's a real nice guy, and obviously he's intelligent, but I've got nothing good to say about him most of the time.
 

DAWG61

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have I watched this team and thought Riley Benock is the reason were not a good team. He's a solid defender,works hard, hustles, has a good attitude, doesn't pout, doesn't loaf, doesn't foul out, doesn't get technicals or suspensions, doesn't get in fist fights with teammates in the stands, doesn't post negative comments on his twitter account, doesn't threaten to quit or transfer, oh and he also has a positive assist to turnover ratio and leads the team in free throw and 3 point %. After all that you still blame him for our suckitude. Wow!! It's only stats that matter huh or is it he doesn't pass your eye test? Cause he's not a superior athlete.
 

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Riley next year and there is no way that he can be replaced with the talent we have coming in.**** Steele, Hood, and Deville combined won't even be able toreplace him because he is so valuable.****I suppose that wewill just have to hope for the best in post Benock era. In other areas, Kodi has played well lately but Moultrie will be a better fit and more beneficial to our success overall.Heis going tobe a beast on the boards and he has a solid post game, we will definitely be a better defensive ballclub next year and it will equal more success in the win column. Ravern has been on fire lately, but he has been a defensive liability since the day he stepped on campus, his departureisnot a big loss in my opinion.
 

DawgMedic

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I never blamed him for our "suckitude."Also, if you'd bother tocheck some stats, you'd see that he has fouled out three times this year, the last time was just three weeks ago against UK. He isn't that good, and I've never understood why some people think he is. I could care less about all the other off-the-court crap. It happens, you deal with it, and you move on. You could make the same statements you just made about our whole bench.

Edited to add - It doesn't matter that you're leading the team in free throw % when you've only ATTEMPTED 21 ALL YEAR! Yes, 21 attempts... the... whole... damn... year...When's the last time Elgin Bailey played? December? He scored more points this year from the charity stripe than Benock.
 

Ol Blue.sixpack

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For what its worth, I've heard there have been back channel discussions about Stansbury and the WKU job that is about to be open. It would be a nice fit.<div>
</div><div>MSU could then go out and get a Andy Kennedy type who some of the "local" geniuses seem to love but who has yet to get his team within a whiff of the NCAA's.</div>
 

AROB44

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If Stans were to leave, we would have a boatload of great coaches that would be applying for the job....all from this message board.Then we would be in the big dance every year and be a consistent top 15 BB program. I am sure Coach34 will be the premier candidate and that he will actively seek the position. Should be a no brainer.
 

DAWG61

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He's not asked to be a scorer for this team. I'm not in love with Riley Benock's game I just think he deserves a little more credit than you give him.
 

jbulldog

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either this or next year. It has been part of his plan for a while now. I have posted this a few times. He will spend more time with family. My belief is he may return to coaching after a while and certainly will not have a problem finding a job.
 

BriantheDawg

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better? Wendell Lewis hasn't gotten any better? Jarvis never got any better? Chuck Rhodes never got any better?

I swear, some of y'all hate our coach so much that you can't ever give credit when it is actually due. I can't wait to come be right on sixpackspeak and laugh at all you dumbasses when our program completely falls off the map once Stansbury quits or gets fired. Because, afterall, being right on a message board is WAY more important than actually being good and winning.
 

fishwater99

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Repeat Offender said:
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Riley next year and there is no way that he can be replaced with the talent we have coming in.**** Steele, Hood, and Deville combined won't even be able toreplace him because he is so valuable.****I suppose that wewill just have to hope for the best in post Benock era. </span>In other areas, Kodi has played well lately but Moultrie will be a better fit and more beneficial to our success overall.Heis going tobe a beast on the boards and he has a solid post game, we will definitely be a better defensive ballclub next year and it will equal more success in the win column. Ravern has been on fire lately, but he has been a defensive liability since the day he stepped on campus, his departureisnot a big loss in my opinion.
Have you seen Steele, Hood and Deville play? They will make you forget all about our white boy. Deville is super quick and will see major minutes at the 1 next year, Hood should start at the 3 from day 1. Bost and Bryant will take turns at the 1 and 2, with Steele coming in off the bench at the 2. Trust me we will be fine without Riley..
 

Johnson85

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It'd be nice to have a 7th man in a rotation that can come in, hit open shots, make free throws, and play solid and hard defense (even if he lacks the athleticism to play shut down d).
IfRenardo were in shape, and Ravern gave a **** about D,ourother starting 4 would be good enough that Benock wouldactually be a good fit as a starter, as we'd have plenty of people demanding touches. But as it is, the fact that Benock is a starter is a symptom of what kind of shape the team is in.
 

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DAWG61 said:
next year. We lose 3 starters. We gain one juco. Don't assume **** about unproven high school seniors that havn't even graduated yet. We don't have Wall and Cousins coming in or on are team right now. Bost and Sidney are not lottery picks. The grass is always greener until your standing on the ****.
That fact that you'd cite Riley as one of your 3 "returning starters" speaks volumes of your slanted, incorrect viewpoint.
 

BullDawgin

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DAWG61 said:
would Lewis be any better? Stansbury can't coach up players. We have a zero strength and conditioning program. Lewis is out of position constantly. He seems confused 100% of the time and has no offensive skill besides dunking it. If he was Varnado on defense I could see your reason for optimism but "come on man"!!!!
RS is always down low rebounding his *** off instead of wheezing his love handles off at the other end of the court or trying to play spot shooter? Lewis is learning the game, but he hustles; a rarity on this year's team
 

mstateglfr

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BriantheDawg said:
<span class="post-title">Wow, what a genius you are. So I guess Bost hasn't gotten any better? Kodi hasn't gotten any </span>better? Wendell Lewis hasn't gotten any better? Jarvis never got any better? Chuck Rhodes never got any better?

I swear, some of y'all hate our coach so much that you can't ever give credit when it is actually due. I can't wait to come be right on sixpackspeak and laugh at all you dumbasses when our program completely falls off the map once Stansbury quits or gets fired. Because, afterall, being right on a message board is WAY more important than actually being good and winning.
2 things:

First- What about all the players that never improved? Why getcredit for those that improved but not get slammed for those that didnt?

And that leads me to...

Second- You have to take into accountnatural improvement due to experience and age. A player will improve over 4 years from experience alone. So measure the difference between what a typical elite conference player improves over4 years and what the players you mentioned improved.
Yeah there is nostandard way to measure that, but its like those nerd baseball stats that are algorithms where a player is measured against a typical replacement player atthe same position or whatever.

Improvement over4 years, especially in some ofthe most formitive years of a talented player's life, isnt evidence of good coaching. Improvement should happen naturally from age and experience. How much better than average were those players? THAT is what Stans should be credited for.
Andwhen the players dont improve, THAT is whenStans should be raked over the coals. Because if it holds true for him improving players, then the oppositemust apply...right?