Sorry, Bob, you're wrong about free throws losing the game

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Mark your calendar. I challenge Huggins about once a century.

Since Huggins complained about WVU missing free throws and Baylor making them I re-checked the box score to be sure I didn’t remember the charity line performance wrong.

Huggins said “We miss free throws. They made free throws when they had to. We didn't.” WVU made 28 of 32 for 87.5%. They missed FOUR free throws the entire game! Bob: “We have not made crucial free throws down the stretch in our losses. “

Baylor made 9 of 14 for 64.3%. They missed FIVE free throws the entire game in which WVU shot 18 more free throws than Baylor.

Sorry, Bob, this is a rarity for me when you speak. That dog don’t hunt.

Missing FOUR free throws out of 32 did NOT lose the game. If Huggins complains about 87.5% percent free throw shooting then his brain isn’t calculating properly.

Culver, the target of the missing free throws all season, made 9 out of 10 free throws! And Bob complains about free throw shooting?

I expect WVU to move UP in the rankings from #5/#6 if the Mountaineers beat TCU and Oklahoma State to finish the regular season. With #4 Illinois ahead of #2 Michigan, 45-29, with 15 minutes left, WVU will leapfrog the loser.

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

Good post until you typed that WVU would leap-frog the loser of the Michigan/Illinois game. Michigan is going to lose, but won't drop below #4, unless it loses its next game, too.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

You might be right about my Michigan/Illinois comment. But it doesn't matter because WVU will be a 2 or 3 seed. And March Madness is ALL about who wins 6 straight games to become the national champion! I just wish Bob hadn't made his "missing free throws" shot after they played such a magnificent game against a top 5 team. Throwing the team under the bus doesn't engender cohesiveness. That's something Oscar and Buckets did. Huggins, who IS a Hall of Fame coach, should have known better, even in the heat of the moment. You do NOT slam your players for missing FOUR of THIRTY TWO free throws! Not if you're smart as Huggins.

 

[Buster68_rivals]

I think he was referring to the two misses at the end of the game by Deuce and Taz. Although these might have flipped the script, they did not overshadow the effort this team gave last night. They never quit and had a chance to beat a very good team.

 

[dave]

Mark your calendar. I challenge Huggins about once a century.

Since Huggins complained about WVU missing free throws and Baylor making them I re-checked the box score to be sure I didn’t remember the charity line performance wrong.

Huggins said “We miss free throws. They made free throws when they had to. We didn't.” WVU made 28 of 32 for 87.5%. They missed FOUR free throws the entire game! Bob: “We have not made crucial free throws down the stretch in our losses. “

Baylor made 9 of 14 for 64.3%. They missed FIVE free throws the entire game in which WVU shot 18 more free throws than Baylor.

Sorry, Bob, this is a rarity for me when you speak. That dog don’t hunt.

Missing FOUR free throws out of 32 did NOT lose the game. If Huggins complains about 87.5% percent free throw shooting then his brain isn’t calculating properly.

Culver, the target of the missing free throws all season, made 9 out of 10 free throws! And Bob complains about free throw shooting?

I expect WVU to move UP in the rankings from #5/#6 if the Mountaineers beat TCU and Oklahoma State to finish the regular season. With #4 Illinois ahead of #2 Michigan, 45-29, with 15 minutes left, WVU will leapfrog the loser.

The two best ft shooters on the team missed a FT down the stretch.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Mark your calendar. I challenge Huggins about once a century.

Since Huggins complained about WVU missing free throws and Baylor making them I re-checked the box score to be sure I didn’t remember the charity line performance wrong.

Huggins said “We miss free throws. They made free throws when they had to. We didn't.” WVU made 28 of 32 for 87.5%. They missed FOUR free throws the entire game! Bob: “We have not made crucial free throws down the stretch in our losses. “

Baylor made 9 of 14 for 64.3%. They missed FIVE free throws the entire game in which WVU shot 18 more free throws than Baylor.

Sorry, Bob, this is a rarity for me when you speak. That dog don’t hunt.

Missing FOUR free throws out of 32 did NOT lose the game. If Huggins complains about 87.5% percent free throw shooting then his brain isn’t calculating properly.

Culver, the target of the missing free throws all season, made 9 out of 10 free throws! And Bob complains about free throw shooting?

I expect WVU to move UP in the rankings from #5/#6 if the Mountaineers beat TCU and Oklahoma State to finish the regular season. With #4 Illinois ahead of #2 Michigan, 45-29, with 15 minutes left, WVU will leapfrog the loser.

It's not always about total stats. What part of the game did those misses happen. I know at least 1 of them that could have won the game or forced a 3 attempt at the end to tie. Thank you McBride.

0:13

Miles McBride missed Free Throw.

79 - 80

0:13

Miles McBride made Free Throw.

79 - 81

Make your foul shot and it's a 3 point lead.

1:15

Taz Sherman missed Free Throw.

88 - 88

1:15

Taz Sherman made Free Throw.

88 - 89

You have no idea how a miss in clutch time can change a game.

Take your overall stats and enjoy them. They are meaningless when it comes to the end and needing to make a FT.

This is the 3rd home game Where missed foul shot at the end caused a loss.

Texas Game - front end miss

1:05

Derek Culver missed Free Throw.

67 - 70

0:10

Emmitt Matthews Jr. missed Free Throw.

69 - 70

0:10

Emmitt Matthews Jr. missed Free Throw.

69 - 70

OU Game - 2 OT

0:45

Gabe Osabuohien missed Free Throw.

70 - 72

0:45

Gabe Osabuohien missed Free Throw.

70 - 72

First OT

4:38		Miles McBride made Free Throw.	72 - 73
4:38		Miles McBride missed Free Throw.	72 - 73

2nd OT

2:50

Derek Culver missed Free Throw.

85 - 85

2:50

Derek Culver made Free Throw.

85 - 86

Several chances to stretch a lead and win the game. It's when a foul shot is missed.

Sorry you do not understand the when and where of costly misses. Sure Baylor could say the same but their misses were not in clutch time.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

The two best ft shooters on the team missed a FT down the stretch.

Deuce made 7 of 8 free throws and Taz made 7 of 8 free throws. And you want to throw them under the bus for NOT shooting 100%! Really. You are 100% at your job every day?

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

I think he was referring to the two misses at the end of the game by Deuce and Taz. Although these might have flipped the script, they did not overshadow the effort this team gave last night. They never quit and had a chance to beat a very good team.

Deuce and Taz BOTH made 7 of 8 free throws. It was wrong of Bob to throw them under the bus for their misses which, I'll admit, came at a crucial time. Did Bob NOT make 1 mistake in coaching that game? No one is perfect. Singling out Deuce and Taz who made 7 of 8 free throws apiece for ONE miss apiece is unacceptable. Bob should apologize to Deuce and Taz. I sent Bob an email telling him that. Hope he mans up and apologizes to Deuce and Taz.

 

[dave]

Deuce made 7 of 8 free throws and Taz made 7 of 8 free throws. And you want to throw them under the bus for NOT shooting 100%! Really. You are 100% at your job every day?

Im not throwing them under the bus. I am simply stating a fact. They both missed key fts in crunch time and it hurt us bad. Why cant someone state a fact without being accused of attacking? I thought you 100 year old farts were better than this.

 

[westsiderSJHS77]

Huggins spoke of the Baylor, Oklahoma, Texas and Florida games where they didn’t make their free throws at the end, or in crunch time.

Haters gonna hate. (and take his words out of context)

 

[Buster68_rivals]

Deuce and Taz BOTH made 7 of 8 free throws. It was wrong of Bob to throw them under the bus for their misses which, I'll admit, came at a crucial time. Did Bob NOT make 1 mistake in coaching that game? No one is perfect. Singling out Deuce and Taz who made 7 of 8 free throws apiece for ONE miss apiece is unacceptable. Bob should apologize to Deuce and Taz. I sent Bob an email telling him that. Hope he mans up and apologizes to Deuce and Taz.

Again, I don't think Huggs was blaming anyone for the loss. It was obvious that he thinks they played hard but made some mistakes in critical situations. Don't see why he needs to apologize for what he said. You may be overreacting. By the way, did you take all of your meds, yesterday? Only kidding, I actually like your posts.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Deuce made 7 of 8 free throws and Taz made 7 of 8 free throws. And you want to throw them under the bus for NOT shooting 100%! Really. You are 100% at your job every day?

Look where they missed their 1 free throw. Open your eyes dough boy.

 

[tOSUaluminWVa]

It's obvious that many of you criticizing players for missing a free throw late in a game have never played a game of basketball at the high school level or higher. NEWS FLASH: It's much harder to make free throws when your legs are tired and the pressure is at its peak at the end of a close game.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Deuce and Taz BOTH made 7 of 8 free throws. It was wrong of Bob to throw them under the bus for their misses which, I'll admit, came at a crucial time. Did Bob NOT make 1 mistake in coaching that game? No one is perfect. Singling out Deuce and Taz who made 7 of 8 free throws apiece for ONE miss apiece is unacceptable. Bob should apologize to Deuce and Taz. I sent Bob an email telling him that. Hope he mans up and apologizes to Deuce and Taz.

You have lost your mind.

 

[WVUALLEN]

It's obvious that many of you criticizing players for missing a free throw late in a game have never played a game of basketball at the high school level or higher. NEWS FLASH: It's much harder to make free throws when your legs are tired and the pressure is at its peak at the end of a close game.

It's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about as others have shown the facts. Key misses and makes can decide games. Tired legs didn't seem to bother Baylor's Covid filled players from making key baskets in the end.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Again, I don't think Huggs was blaming anyone for the loss. It was obvious that he thinks they played hard but made some mistakes in critical situations. Don't see why he needs to apologize for what he said. You may be overreacting. By the way, did you take all of your meds, yesterday? Only kidding, I actually like your posts.

Everyone, including Bob, should remember that Taz with 26 points out-scored Baylor's Big 12 Player of the Year Butler by 1 point and that Taz and Deuce, with 19 points, were WVU's top scorers. With Taz and Deuce, WVU wouldn't even be in the game, let alone ahead with about 1 minute left in overtime. We should be PRAISING Taz and Deuce for their performances, not harping on ONE missed free throw apiece, no matter when it was made. Bob was wrong. Everyone who criticizes me for sticking by these 2 players over Bob's statement is wrong. I'm not perfect. Neither is Bob, Taz, Deuce or anyone who posts on this board. Let's reorganize the troops, turn our fire on TCU and Oklahoma State, the Big 12 tournament and March Madness. This WVU team scared the beejeebees out of #1 Gonzaga and #3 Baylor. Let's cherish that. Not pick on 2 kids for missing ONE free throw in a game! Can't we all agree on that? Am I overreacting? Probably. But for a good cause. 2 good kids who played their hearts out for WVU, led the team in scoring against Baylor, made 7 of 8 free throws. That's something to cheer, not groan over!

 

[WVUALLEN]

Everyone, including Bob, should remember that Taz with 26 points out-scored Baylor's Big 12 Player of the Year Butler by 1 point and that Taz and Deuce, with 19 points, were WVU's top scorers. With Taz and Deuce, WVU wouldn't even be in the game, let alone ahead with about 1 minute left in overtime. We should be PRAISING Taz and Deuce for their performances, not harping on ONE missed free throw apiece, no matter when it was made. Bob was wrong. Everyone who criticizes me for sticking by these 2 players over Bob's statement is wrong. I'm not perfect. Neither is Bob, Taz, Deuce or anyone who posts on this board. Let's reorganize the troops, turn our fire on TCU and Oklahoma State, the Big 12 tournament and March Madness. This WVU team scared the beejeebees out of #1 Gonzaga and #3 Baylor. Let's cherish that. Not pick on 2 kids for missing ONE free throw in a game! Can't we all agree on that? Am I overreacting? Probably. But for a good cause. 2 good kids who played their hearts out for WVU, led the team in scoring against Baylor, made 7 of 8 free throws. That's something to cheer, not groan over!

Nobody is groaning. It was the best game all year for college basketball period. But facts are facts Key foul shot were missed. Bone head turnovers were made by Taz and McBride at the end of the game. Quit sucking on the total stat numbers and look at the entire picture at hand.

But I am thankful your dumbass has me on ignore so you don't see how stupid you really are.

 

[WVUALLEN]

One more thing CFE....

https://westvirginia.rivals.com/new...r-moving-forward-for-west-virginia-basketball

...free throw total is marred by the fact that two of the misses came in critical points of the game. One of those was McBride misfiring and unable to extend the lead to three-points late in regulation.

One of those other miscues loomed large at the end when senior guard Taz Sherman traveled on an in-bounds play with one second remaining in the first half and Baylor got the ball back and hit a three to close things out.

It was the only basket for the Bears over the final 5:56 of the first half and proved to be critical at the end when West Virginia was attempting to close out the game.

But that was only one of the examples.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Looking at the big picture: Duece and Taz scored 45 points, HALF of WVU's scoring, each made 7 of 8 free throws. Can't we agree that should be added in dissing the one miscues? Without them, WVU had NO chance of being ahead with 1 minute left in overtime. Can't we at least agree on THAT?

 

[Buster68_rivals]

Looking at the big picture: Duece and Taz scored 45 points, HALF of WVU's scoring, each made 7 of 8 free throws. Can't we agree that should be added in dissing the one miscues? Without them, WVU had NO chance of being ahead with 1 minute left in overtime. Can't we at least agree on THAT?

Your right about them playing great games. But don't take what is being posted as dissing either. This was perhaps the game of the year-to-date for college basketball and I, along with most of the posters, feel that their play was stellar for most of the game. Our point of disagreement is about Huggs throwing them under the bus for their overall fantastic foul shooting. I did not take it that way and don't believe he meant it that way. They made some small mistakes that cost them the game and that is what he was talking about. IMHO, it was about as complimentary as he gets when addressing the press after the disapointment of a close loss when we had several chances to win.

This is a young talented team that has had to change its style of play and learn how to win close games. There is a lot to like about this team and I believe that it to be a special team that can hang with and defeat anyone in the country if they can minimize those small mistakes at the end of close games. They have a good chance to make a deep run in March and possibly to the Final Four this year. But I get just as excited thinking about how good these guys could be if the corp group stays together for another year and Cottrell gets healthy. Can you imagine how good these guys could be with another year of experience playing in this new system...especially, if Taz, Gabe and Culver were to stay? That would definitely make them a NC caliber team for next season.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Good points. And I really think that Bob, the best basketball coach in WVU history, probably wishes he had said it differently in the post-game press conference when the loss still was hurting. I just defended Deuce and Taz. And I'm done with this thread. All of us, including me, should move on. Let's root for making the Horny Frogs impotent and out-shooting the Cowboys, winning the Big 12 tournament and March Madness! Who's with me on THAT?

 

[dave]

Everyone, including Bob, should remember that Taz with 26 points out-scored Baylor's Big 12 Player of the Year Butler by 1 point and that Taz and Deuce, with 19 points, were WVU's top scorers. With Taz and Deuce, WVU wouldn't even be in the game, let alone ahead with about 1 minute left in overtime. We should be PRAISING Taz and Deuce for their performances, not harping on ONE missed free throw apiece, no matter when it was made. Bob was wrong. Everyone who criticizes me for sticking by these 2 players over Bob's statement is wrong. I'm not perfect. Neither is Bob, Taz, Deuce or anyone who posts on this board. Let's reorganize the troops, turn our fire on TCU and Oklahoma State, the Big 12 tournament and March Madness. This WVU team scared the beejeebees out of #1 Gonzaga and #3 Baylor. Let's cherish that. Not pick on 2 kids for missing ONE free throw in a game! Can't we all agree on that? Am I overreacting? Probably. But for a good cause. 2 good kids who played their hearts out for WVU, led the team in scoring against Baylor, made 7 of 8 free throws. That's something to cheer, not groan over!

Why is pointing out a fact "picking on 2 kids"?

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

I repeat. I'm done with this thread. Let's move on to TCU and Oklahoma State games.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Why is pointing out a fact "picking on 2 kids"?

He is just misunderstanding what Bob said and taking it out of context.

 

[WVUALLEN]

I repeat. I'm done with this thread. Let's move on to TCU and Oklahoma State games.

You're also wrong in this thread.