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football power houses like Boston College, Wake Forest, Ga Tech, and sPitt doesn't really do anything for me and it kind of seems like a step backwards. And I know scheduling with the PAC-12 would be a challenge at best, but moving to the PAC-12 (or the Big X) is really the only way to keep the program moving in the right direction.
 

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football power houses like Boston College, Wake Forest, Ga Tech, and sPitt doesn't really do anything for me and it kind of seems like a step backwards. And I know scheduling with the PAC-12 would be a challenge at best, but moving to the PAC-12 (or the Big X) is really the only way to keep the program moving in the right direction.

I get your point but have you seen Alabama's schedule? A couple of SEC powers, several bottom feeders and 3 absolute cupcakes spread throughout the season to give the starters a break.
 

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football power houses like Boston College, Wake Forest, Ga Tech, and sPitt doesn't really do anything for me and it kind of seems like a step backwards. And I know scheduling with the PAC-12 would be a challenge at best, but moving to the PAC-12 (or the Big X) is really the only way to keep the program moving in the right direction.
Moving out west is not in the right direction. What makes you think PAC would accept WVU?

I can see another back stabbing coming to WVU
 

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I get your point but have you seen Alabama's schedule? A couple of SEC powers, several bottom feeders and 3 absolute cupcakes spread throughout the season to give the starters a break.
Now they get to play another weakling named Texas.
 

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football power houses like Boston College, Wake Forest, Ga Tech, and sPitt doesn't really do anything for me and it kind of seems like a step backwards. And I know scheduling with the PAC-12 would be a challenge at best, but moving to the PAC-12 (or the Big X) is really the only way to keep the program moving in the right direction.
What about playing FSU, Clemson, North Carolina, Virginia Tech?

Are you excited about Oregon State, Washington State, Cal and Arizona State?
 
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football power houses like Boston College, Wake Forest, Ga Tech, and sPitt doesn't really do anything for me and it kind of seems like a step backwards. And I know scheduling with the PAC-12 would be a challenge at best, but moving to the PAC-12 (or the Big X) is really the only way to keep the program moving in the right direction.

Is playing Oregon State, Arizona, Arizona State, or Washington State much better? Logistically it's a headache and there is not much of a prestige improvement. So unless the western affiliation results in significantly better income, the ACC is a preferred option even if its not stable. It's looking like it's only a matter of time before the SEC and Big 10 pretty much split the country north and south with highest income teams available in those geographic regions.
 

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I get your point but have you seen Alabama's schedule? A couple of SEC powers, several bottom feeders and 3 absolute cupcakes spread throughout the season to give the starters a break.
Wish WVU would schedule a few mid-season cup cakes.....
What about playing FSU, Clemson, North Carolina, Virginia Tech?

Are you excited about Oregon State, Washington State, Cal and Arizona State?
How long will FSU and Clempscum be in the ACC? And Va Tech hasn't been a national brand since Vick left.
 

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Is playing Oregon State, Arizona, Arizona State, or Washington State much better? Logistically it's a headache and there is not much of a prestige improvement. So unless the western affiliation results in significantly better income, the ACC is a preferred option even if its not stable. It's looking like it's only a matter of time before the SEC and Big 10 pretty much split the country north and south with highest income teams available in those geographic regions.

You want to be in a conference where UNC is basically calling the shots? Yeah no.....no thanks. We're in a situation like that already and it's not working out for us.
 

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You want to be in a conference where UNC is basically calling the shots? Yeah no.....no thanks. We're in a situation like that already and it's not working out for us.
WVU has always been in that situation. PSU then Big East and Miami then Big 12 and Texas. Now it's either UNC or USC.
 

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California, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Washington, Washington State, Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, USC, UCLA, Utah.

North Carolina, North Carolina State, Duke, Wake Forest, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Clemson, Georgia Tech, FSU, Miami, Pitt, Boston College, Syracuse, Louisville.

Well one looks good for football and the other looks good for basketball. Can we split between the two.
 

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Guys guys guys the PAC will not be what it is after the BIG raids it. I can see USC UCLA and perhaps 2 more PAC schools joining the BIG. Its going to be the AAC+leftover Big 12 for WVU.
 

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Guys guys guys the PAC will not be what it is after the BIG raids it. I can see USC UCLA and perhaps 2 more PAC schools joining the BIG. Its going to be the AAC+leftover Big 12 for WVU.
I don't think the pac 12 is gonna get raided anytime soon. The big 10 isn't going to expand just because the sec did. The sec expanded because they were able to reel in a couple whales. The pac 12 might decide to add a couple teams. They are probably the most likely change at this point. What that change may be remains to be seen. The next major expansion will probably be a decade from now when the acc Gor expiration starts to come into play. I wouldn't be surprised if the Big 10 looks south into acc country as well as the sec. I could see both the big 10 and sec in a fight over some of the Nc schools or Virginia schools.
 

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Wish WVU would schedule a few mid-season cup cakes.....

How long will FSU and Clempscum be in the ACC? And Va Tech hasn't been a national brand since Vick left.
Probably for at least another decade unless The Big 10 and Sec coordinate a full scale raid of the Acc.
 

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football power houses like Boston College, Wake Forest, Ga Tech, and sPitt doesn't really do anything for me and it kind of seems like a step backwards. And I know scheduling with the PAC-12 would be a challenge at best, but moving to the PAC-12 (or the Big X) is really the only way to keep the program moving in the right direction.

LOL at the homer 😂. Plus it’s(my pronouns are....) a dumb ***. Dude WVU is a middle of the pack program that is in a very difficult position right now. You’re one tone deaf homer that’s for sure.
 

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Guys guys guys the PAC will not be what it is after the BIG raids it. I can see USC UCLA and perhaps 2 more PAC schools joining the BIG. Its going to be the AAC+leftover Big 12 for WVU.
Not only that they will also be taking the rose bowl with them.
 
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The original plan included leaving Arizona State, Colorado, Oregon and Washington

The problem was that weren’t leaving any California schools
Stanford isn’t going anywhere.

That isn’t happening.
They are learning…PAC is a weird conference. Isn’t what it seems on the surface. Stanford makes those schools kiss the ring.
Stanford doesn’t just feel smarter than all
of them they actually are
 
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You want to be in a conference where UNC is basically calling the shots? Yeah no.....no thanks. We're in a situation like that already and it's not working out for us.

It's not so much what I want, but what is remotely possible. The options are the AAC where we can maybe rule over our empire of **** from the scraps of ESPN. Try to limp along in the Big XII with whatever can be scrapped together to keep the conference afloat. Join the Franken PAC-12/BIG XII, assuming they'll have us, where USC will be our overlord just waiting to pull the rug out at the next round of conference expansion. Lastly the ACC which will be just like Big East when Miami was good will be ruled by FSU and Clemson until they too pull the rug out.

I don't WANT any of those options as it's like trying to choose the best flavor of **** sandwich. Yet it's the position WVU finds itself in and the ACC likely as the best upside of a bleak situation.
 
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Cal = Wake Forest

Cal averaged a paid attendance(not turnstiles) of 36,000 in 2019.

Sounds cool!
Cal has averaged 43K the last 5 years. Not including 2019
Only 69% of the stadium.
Bad situation.
That was with the Raiders. Have to really dig deep into their attendance over the years. You might see a gain with the Raiders gone. Berkeley is East Bay.
But East Bay is changing as well. At least Oakland is. You are having a lot of people who cannot afford San Francisco moved there and are pushing people out.

Crazy thing is this. I have a lot of old football magazines. One of the oldest I have is from the early 1950’s.
It was talking about how the NFL compares to college football. Started to list the big stadiums of CFB and it listed Memorial Stadium. Sad thing is it was the 49ers and then the Raiders who damaged CFB in the Bay Area. The magazine was talking about CFB was a superior product😂
 
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You must be a 100% libtard.

Cascades split Washington and Oregon
Eastern half of the state isn’t anything like the Western half
Seattle especially is a leftist hotspot. Has been for awhile. Portland copies Seattle. Eastern half of the state is fairly conservative. Washington has a lot of farming especially around Spokane and Pullman . Oregon is farming mixed with ranching in Bend and Pendleton. Eastern Oregon is more like parts of Idaho/Nevada.
Both are beautiful states. You do have a lot of leftist thought toward the coast. But they are also experiments in libertarianism socially. That is the prominent viewpoint even with people who vote Republican as well. Both states have the lowest rate of church attendance in the country.
 
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Everything is political to them.

Republican state good Democrat state bad
Not even realizing that no state is 100% either way and even the most liberal state has pockets of conservatives and even the most conservative state has pockets of liberals.

Cannot help themselves on a sports message board
I thought Rootmaster wanted to keep politics out of sports…
Just the politics he doesn’t agree with I guess
 

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Yet the big dummy TVZ replied to political comment that keeps it going so he can ***** about it.