News says Northwestern players don't get to form a union as University employees after all. Union vs. nonUnion campuses might upset the competitive balance. Just have to be content with those schollies I guess.
Sorry guys, no union.
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I'm sure the coaches and AD's breathed a sigh of relief. Now they can keep their gargantuan salaries growing at exponential rates.
Let this sink in...
Mike Riley makes $2.85 million per year (assuming he reaches any bowl game...there are other possible bonuses).
Shawn Eichorst makes over $1.1 million per year (if he gets his $750,000 bonus for staying five years).
...and here's the kicker...Harvey Perlman makes less than $360,000 per year. (He makes 1/3 of what Shawn Eichorst makes and 1/8 of what Mike Riley makes)
Yes...coaches and AD's are happy, happy, happy today!!!
Let this sink in...
Mike Riley makes $2.85 million per year (assuming he reaches any bowl game...there are other possible bonuses).
Shawn Eichorst makes over $1.1 million per year (if he gets his $750,000 bonus for staying five years).
...and here's the kicker...Harvey Perlman makes less than $360,000 per year. (He makes 1/3 of what Shawn Eichorst makes and 1/8 of what Mike Riley makes)
Yes...coaches and AD's are happy, happy, happy today!!!
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what if players held a moment of solidarity some weekend this year? maybe suspend play across the country for a couple of minutes. not crazy about a college players union, but not sure the lack of a formal union could prevent a 'work stoppage'. it would get attention.
This is a good decision. There are things that need to be taken care of for the players, but unionizing Universities is not a good place to start.
The scary thing about when you point a finger at somebody and say they make too much is somebody can do the same exact thing to you. Only 2.4% of high school football players get the chance to play at this level. If you are into fairness, how do you address the 97.6% left behind?
How many of those people make their high schools crazy amounts of money?
It seems hypocritical to say a coach deserves ten times as much as a president of a university because he brings in dollars but then havea totally different argument for players. Just be consistent.
They want there cake and eat it too. They want to be employees. Go for it. Just know that you can be fired since you suck on the field.
Since its all about football, the university has the right to get rid of employees who are not earning their money....I bet they want all the same perks they have now.
Since its all about football, the university has the right to get rid of employees who are not earning their money....I bet they want all the same perks they have now.
People have to get over their jealousy that people make different amounts of money. Life is not fair. BTW - the kids get a free education (student loan debt is getting bad these days, I hear), get to play the sport they love in front of a national audience, are a VIP on campus, and get a shot to potentially make more than their coaches.
So if players make the following for Nebraska, do we continually pay the Eric Crouch's, Tommie Frazier's, Johnny Rogers, etc who achieved greatness at the University? I'm tuning in each week to see the program achieve the status that these great players helped achieve - not the sideshow circus act I have witnessed in the last 10 years. Should it be performance based? Should we have paid Ameer Abdulah more that Pelini's nephew at center - or does each player get paid to exist, like the scholarship program does now?
if you don't think stuff like what the NW players did helped get the new stipend, then I'm not really sure what to tell you.
Kind of related topic, but I'm curious what happens when more and more people cut the cord and stop paying for cable/satellite service.
How will the networks honor those big money contracts to the conferences?
How will the networks honor those big money contracts to the conferences?
Your post is hypocritical. These players want to get paid what they are worth. Yet we have people who say, "They are getting paid plenty." I think the jealousy comes because these players already get way more than we did as college students and we don't like the thought of them getting more.
If they are the ones who create the wealth what is wrong withem getting commensurate compensation? It seems like that is the capitalistic way.
I think you are looking at this all wrong. Everyone wants to get paid what they think they are worth, doesn’t always happen. It’s a matter of paying your dues and working your way up. Think of it this way, these kids are getting a top flight education in their chosen profession (football). They are receiving year round world class strength and performance training, on-field personal training and football skills training, video analysis, nutrition and dietary services, leadership training, sports psychology services and life skills management services, full medical treatment and services, etc. for 4-5 years (and this is in addition to an academic education in an additional field of their choice and full room and board with a spending allowance). At the end of this training they have a chance to gain employment in their chosen field (football). If they weren’t receiving this training through college, how much would they have to pay to go to quarterback gurus, speed training, strength and performance training, etc. Think of it as an internship or apprenticeship, where at the end they have a chance at the NFL. I’ve got 2 kids in college right now. Both are fortunate enough to have paid summer internships. One of them (a UNL Raikes school student) worked alongside with two other students (one from Berkeley and another from Harvard) and both those students were unpaid. None of them were getting paid what they are worth and do you think the company and owners were making money off them? But they are receiving invaluable experience and training to further their careers. It’s the way the system works. Start at the bottom, work hard and pay your dues and your pay day will eventually come.
In capitalism, people get paid for value they provide. So are you saying players need to be paid different amounts based on the value they bring?
At the very least, I would say the players as a whole should be paid a percentage of all proceeds like they are in some pro leagues.
Now let me ask you, "Are you saying that the coaches, AD's, and athletic departments should be paid money that the players had a key role in producing while the players get a mere percentage of what they produced?"
Your argument cannot stand. If the players are responsible for what the sports program makes, then players for Ohio State, Bama, etc should make a hell of a lot more than Nebraska players. Players for teams like Iowa State, Indiana, etc would likely get paid nothing.
If the players make a difference, why couldn't all the 4-5 star recruits make a difference for Brady Hoke, but Bill Snyder has the results he has with 2-3 star recruits?
I think scholarship, stipend, etc is well enough compensation. What I support a union for is when I hear crap stories about various athletes getting screwed over by their coaches, etc
No problem in the honesty. I think 400k is plenty good enough for coaches. (250k for ADs.) Why should a football coach make more the university president?
Why get wrapped up in what people make? One big problem with society is that coveting has become acceptable.
- Is it fair that college dropouts become billionaires??? They shouldn't earn that kind of money - they didn't go to college and get a whole host of degrees.
- Should movie stars make $20 million a movie for simply imitating somebody and dumbing down America???
- Should people with no skills besides the ability to communicate be able to go their entire life living off the taxpayer and elevate themselves to the top 1% by being a career politician???
Should all these people earn this type of money? Who cares - that is what they make. Very few can do these jobs - supply and demand.
As long as your being consistent then I don't have a problem.I was responding to the notion that we hear over and over again that these college kids are getting enough compensation. Why is it OK for us to say that these 18-23 year olds should be limited to "X" in compensation but not OK for us to say the same things about coaches and AD's?
I guess it is just perspective. I do not see student receiving scholarships as being "compensated" any more than my daughter being "compensated" with her academic scholarship. It is a perk for hard work and excellence in high school to help entice them to come to a certain school over another.