Sounds like Bumphis had a visitor yesterday at practice.
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He's probably just hoping that Bama will sweeten their deal. Maybe he wants six figures.
Just start telling recruits that while they may get an escalade, what saban isn't telling them is that they will be required to breed with that screetching monster they call the ramp lady.
I think we land Bumphis. If not, then I think we will see Bumphis in Crimson next year. Bottom line. We have to show these recruits that last year wasn't a fluke. That's why I think this Auburn game is a huge game for us, standings and recruiting wise.[b said:
If you are Chad Bumphis, why would you consider MSU? Is Croom that much a factor? How can you watch that offense and actually believe you can make a name for yourself? Now defense is a different story but the MSU offense is where WR's go to die. How can you disagree?
who was the last Alabama WR to make it in the NFL? It could be one from last year but I don't remember any in recent memory.
the reason this offense doesnt work is as much about player as coaches. We have not had a QB/WR group that has been worth a **** in a while. McCroomvey doesnt throw or catch the ball. If we had a good combo they could be plenty productive.
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You see, you have to have outstanding talent to go to the NFL. We just haven't recruited anybody who had that talent. It's not like we've gotten the receivers there and they just regressed. If you're not NFL material there's nothing a school's gonna do to hold you back.
Co-Eric Riley, Hargro, Bivines, all big name recruits. None are NFL material.
Eric Moulds could run circles around those 3 at the same time. That's how good you have to be.
Co-Eric Riley, Hargro, Bivines, all big name recruits. None are NFL material.
Eric Moulds could run circles around those 3 at the same time. That's how good you have to be.
Probably the first in a long time, seeing how Brodie Croyle captures all the Bama passing titles (like 12 TDs overall, something ridiculously low) only to be surpassed by Sarah Jessica Parker Wilson.
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the fact that we haven't had a receiver come to Starkville that was worth a ****? Seems to me that's a recruiting problem, not a coaching problem.
Our coaches don't make players worse. I know you want to believe they do, but that's ludicrous.
Our coaches don't make players worse. I know you want to believe they do, but that's ludicrous.
but there are other variables involved than just going to a program like bama.
Early playing time (He will likely get little playing time his first year and maybe even second, especially behind last years recruiting class)
Close to home (bama isn't very far, but further than state)
Chance to make history ( I am talking about trying to take state to the top of the conference. Everyone likes those cinderella stories ask Boise State)
Early playing time (He will likely get little playing time his first year and maybe even second, especially behind last years recruiting class)
Close to home (bama isn't very far, but further than state)
Chance to make history ( I am talking about trying to take state to the top of the conference. Everyone likes those cinderella stories ask Boise State)
The argument to this point is that Croom hasnt brought a good WR or more importantly, a good QB to campus. From all accounts that might change w/ Russell. So, If I am a WR I could see that as hope for improvement. I will say this. We have had more than our fair share of Clifford-Franklin-itis.
I'm saying why would you go somewhere where the offense has been worse than bad. I think kid that is as highly recruited as he is thinks they are good enough to make it to the league. I mean I know it happens and there is more involved then most know like Duke Calhoun going to Memphis and Brown going to Southern but it just blows my mind that a super talent like he supposedly is would consider playing at a place where they havn't gotten any receiver the ball consistently for over 10 years.
Unless you were a huge fan growing up one way or the other wouldn't you as an objective observer rather go to OM than State as a WR with Snead in the fold. Snead is an NFL talent that can get you the ball and Carroll simply is not. It's kind someone who really wants to be an engineer going to OM. It's like if I were a safety I would rather go to MSU (if I were an objective observer). I don't know just a boring old afternoon got me thinking.
Unless you were a huge fan growing up one way or the other wouldn't you as an objective observer rather go to OM than State as a WR with Snead in the fold. Snead is an NFL talent that can get you the ball and Carroll simply is not. It's kind someone who really wants to be an engineer going to OM. It's like if I were a safety I would rather go to MSU (if I were an objective observer). I don't know just a boring old afternoon got me thinking.
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But in all seriousness, Snead will be there for 2 more years. Tyler Russell and a year older Carroll will be there 5 more years. Most likely Bumphis will not forego his Sr. year to go into the draft. So both options look promising. This is assuming our class doesn't fall apart.
Good players will be good players whereever they go.
Good players will be good players whereever they go.
people that a school has had in the past. Bumphis could come to MSU, start right away, and has a better chance of becoming an "icon" at MSU than at Bama. When I say "icon" I mean hero a la Deuce McAllister. If Bumphis went to Bama and did well, he would be just another name on the wall. At MSU, if he does well he could be considered up there with the Moulds of the world. Plus, as far as our offense, we've been throwing the ball more than we did last year. Also, MSU is in his home state.
I definitely think that a team's current QB/QB prospects would be a major consideration for me if I was a recruit, because without a good QB, it doesn't matter how good you are as a WR. I don't know much about Alabama's QB situation other than AJ McCarron coming in this year, who is supposed to be good, and JPW is gone after this year. And I don't know much about yours except that you keep saying Russell is supposed to be really good, and you obviously have Carroll right now with 2 more years of eligibility after this one. Either way, I'd definitely be watching that at my schools of intereste if I was a WR recruit.
And for Todd, yes a lot of it is about who you've had in the past. Being able to show a recruit a player or two who went to your school and then excelled in the NFL playing his position is a big selling point. Coaches use that kind of thing all the time in recruiting. They'll say, I coached so and so and helped him get to the NFL, and I can do the same for you. I don't know how effective that tactic is, but name dropping players is a big recruiting tactic.
And for Todd, yes a lot of it is about who you've had in the past. Being able to show a recruit a player or two who went to your school and then excelled in the NFL playing his position is a big selling point. Coaches use that kind of thing all the time in recruiting. They'll say, I coached so and so and helped him get to the NFL, and I can do the same for you. I don't know how effective that tactic is, but name dropping players is a big recruiting tactic.
Tyler Russell starting for State by mid year next year. I think he is that good. Just like you can't coach speed, you also can't coach throwing the deep out on a rope or a 65 yard vertical while rolling left. Russell can do that now - accurately.
I think his commitment influences getting Bumphis and keeping Patterson.
I think his commitment influences getting Bumphis and keeping Patterson.
not having OM on his radar. He may not sign there but they are on his radar. You can sell that Wild Rebel stuff to anyone. He's been in Oxford every weekend for the last month. It's not just cause it's a quick drive. Long time till Feb.
Seriously, do you really buy this "come be a hero at MSU" stuff? If I'm a wide receiver looking at Bama and MSU, I see 2 programs that don't even compare. You have a head coach on one side that has a national championship and a coach on the other who can't even get his offense going after 4 years. You can rail on John Parkuh Wilson all day long, but even in his "bad" year, he got the ball to DJ Hall 60+ times for over 1,000 yards. We won't have a WR finish with 50 catches. After Carroll having a decent year last year, we still start the year with a QB controversy. Hopefully our offense is turning a corner, but still there are a lot better situations out there and I just don't buy the fact that being "the man" on our pathetic offense is enough of an incentive for most kids.