Speaking of new things on campus - the new brick wall at DNF...

dawgstudent

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if we are going to renovate or even tear down DNF in a year or two - was the $$$ spent on the brick wall needed?

Discuss amongst yourselves.

 

engie

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Yes.

Looks good on TV -- and we had to do something with that $8mil we cleared last year.
 

zerosktr151

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Someone with no idea

How much a brick job like that cost if it was in the 10's of thousands to do I say yeah glad it's a minor thing to spend on for the time being for whatever may come next for the long term
 

jeremyrbrown

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I assume the money spent on the brick isn't close to the amount that will be spent on the rebuild/renovation. The flooring in our guest bathroom was peeling. We're going to totally redo that bathroom within the year, but we went ahead and put down laminate squares for the time being. Minimal cost, looks okay, not the final solution, but gets us by for now.
 
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I assume the money spent on the brick isn't close to the amount that will be spent on the rebuild/renovation. The flooring in our guest bathroom was peeling. We're going to totally redo that bathroom within the year, but we went ahead and put down laminate squares for the time being. Minimal cost, looks okay, not the final solution, but gets us by for now.

Exactly.

Don't look too deep into this- we just have a lot of games on TV over the next couple of years, so they just threw some bricks behind home plate for the time being to make DNF look a little better for the camera. It's not part of any "final solution."

Considering they stopped putting down bricks at the dugouts and didn't go down the line pretty much backs this up- it's all for TV.
 

bulldogcountry1

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If there was some sort of brick ledge for a base there to start with, I bet that cost no more than $5K. The CMUs (concrete masonry units) scattered about tell me they probably used those to create a base. That's still probably less than $10K total.
 

The Peeper

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Don't they usually have padding on the

wall in that area? If they cover the brick w/ a pad then yeah it's an epic dubmass move. If left exposed then let the bitchin begin if a catcher head butts it chasing a foul ball. Looks good though...
 

mjh94

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you're probably looking at between $9,000 - $12,000 for that brick wall. not much in the grand scheme of things, quick make-up job that will look nice until we demo the place.

How much a brick job like that cost if it was in the 10's of thousands to do I say yeah glad it's a minor thing to spend on for the time being for whatever may come next for the long term
 

oldawg

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I think I have seen most of the discussion about DNF and it's renovation and/or rebuild. Has there ever truly been anything from Cohen or the AD that a rebuild is a possibility or is that message board talk? I can see a big renovation but a tear-down, rebuild, not so much, unless there is an approximately equal cost between the two.
 

The Peeper

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Look, we've got a "shed" like the one the Bears had. I remember that covered grandstand, made those Feb games even colder when the sun couldn't help warm you. Check out the fence, looks like a little league field w/ all those sponsor signs on it. Some of them were "SEC W. Div. Champ" signs etc but too many colors there for just those kind
 

BiscuitEater

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Think that I recall the ...

Check out the fence, looks like a little league field w/ all those sponsor signs on it. Some of them were "SEC W. Div. Champ" signs etc but too many colors there for just those kind

Right field signs, starting from the foul pole were one each for the SEC teams with the Championship signs starting more toward center and moving to left field. Thus the 'multi colors.'
 

AHSDawg

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Yep. The RF to CF was for the SEC teams. It was that way until mid 90s for sure. I remember that vividly.
 

patdog

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As others have pointed out, the left field signs were all MSU conference/division/tournament champion and regional/CWS signs. Right field was a sign for each school. It looked good until several of the school signs faded.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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I can see it now

So if they do demolish the place....

Alumni,... buy a piece of the Dude!

Put it next to your Cowbell...
 
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I think I have seen most of the discussion about DNF and it's renovation and/or rebuild. Has there ever truly been anything from Cohen or the AD that a rebuild is a possibility or is that message board talk? I can see a big renovation but a tear-down, rebuild, not so much, unless there is an approximately equal cost between the two.

It is very widely known that Stricklin was against a tear down until sometime this past fall- in fact, he was quoted in a "This Is Our Show" interview saying that a tear down was not going to happen.

Soon after that, rumors began to circulate that some big money boosters had gotten in his ear about building the "Best stadium in college baseball." Then we had the Dudy Noble listening sessions, in which Stricklin said "Improve, renovate, update, start over, there's nothing off the table, so long as it's the best in the country"- again, this was very different from what he was saying a couple of months prior. The idea of starting over gained even more traction when the design/architecture team was announced, because you don't hire the best college baseball architecture team ever and hand cuff them with something second-rate and outdated.

Now there are supposed rough sketches of a potential new DNF going around to big money people confirming that we will in fact start over and build a new grandstand. At this point, it's pretty much assumed that the current grandstand is coming down.

I really can't wait to see what the architects come up with, because it's going to be awesome.
 

engie

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I think I have seen most of the discussion about DNF and it's renovation and/or rebuild. Has there ever truly been anything from Cohen or the AD that a rebuild is a possibility or is that message board talk? I can see a big renovation but a tear-down, rebuild, not so much, unless there is an approximately equal cost between the two.

I've been told that as of today, there is still 2 proposals on the table -- one is a major renovation and the other is a total rebuild -- both at the current location. I've been told that the cost difference isn't dramatic -- and all architects are beating the drum that the stadium needs a full rebuild. I've been assured that Stricklin fully understands the weight of this decision -- and how it will probably be the single largest lasting symbol of his legacy at MSU.
 

patdog

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I don't think there's any doubt that LFL will still be around after the renovation/new stadium is done.
 
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It is not going to be a tear down and rebuild.

I spoke to "him" about a week ago or so...."he" also reads this board......it is not going to be a total rebuild. Off the table all together. It was originally on the table but now is not.

there are now two options on what exactly is going to be completely rebuilt at the current stadium/location.

LFL isn't going anywhere, but will be "cleaned up"

I look personal look for bleachers completely gone.
 

BIG STANK

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Yeah Scott has definitely made up his mind. From the chat today. Doesn't read like a total rebuild is off the table.

Scott Stricklin:
Andy, you're question about why a new stadium is a consideration is fair. No. 1, the atmosphere at Dudy Noble is great, but is it the stadium that makes it great, or the fans? Dudy Noble also had a great atmosphere when Clark and Palmeiro were playing in a stadium with wooden bleachers, so the case could be made that the stadium itself is more about fan amenities and enhancements, but that the atmosphere comes from the large and passionate crowds.



10:10
Scott Stricklin:
No decisions will be made about which direction to go (whether the current grandstand is renovated, or we build a new facility) until the study is complete. But we owe it to the best baseball fans in America to thoroughly look at all options before charting our course
 
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engie

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I spoke to "him" about a week ago or so...."he" also reads this board......it is not going to be a total rebuild. Off the table all together. It was originally on the table but now is not.

there are now two options on what exactly is going to be completely rebuilt at the current stadium/location.

LFL isn't going anywhere, but will be "cleaned up"

I look personal look for bleachers completely gone.

I'm not sure I follow what you are saying here. You said that a total rebuild is off the table -- then basically say otherwise in the second statement?

There are 2 options still on the table -- both at the current location. In one, the grandstand comes down. In the second, the grandstand stays in some capacity while the skyboxes/press box/foul lines are redone. The difference in price is pretty minimal -- and all architects involved are pushing for the removal of the current grandstand to the AD.

As for the bleachers statement -- that's a 100% foregone conclusion no matter what we do. We were going to do that even before we got serious about making Dudy Noble the best again. I've watched alot of college baseball -- and I've never done it from anywhere more uncomfortable than those bleachers.
 

Resolved

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It would take a good demolition crew about 3 to 5 days to demolish DNF and another few days to haul it off. Not a big deal if considering both options.

Signed,
Arm chair demo guy