So you are saying our chances of winning 2 games are very very very very very very slim. Got it.
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Yup. He's not really a fit for Heavy's offense.
Board? It's was 80% of our stupidass fanbase.
Selmon should be fired immediately if he even takes a sniff in Arnett's direction for that interim spot. Tbro Arnett showed he was topped out at DC with that inconceivably stupid decision to scrap the Air Raid for 2023.
Y'all were saying the same for 4 games last year and we won 5 and y'all wanted Lebby fired. We got to a bowl last year too.
It won't be luck. We will improve incrementally and our schedule will soften a touch. But it won't be satisfying because it will be incremental.
I mean you want a cookie b/c you were finally on the intelligent side of a thought?
Mostly people were just ready to give the freshman a shot. It was our only thing to be excited about at the end of the season. Shapen was fine but KT had way more upside.
Shapen had his moments but the Florida game ending poisoned a lot of people against him.
Really? Your literal next sentence says this:
How do you know he has more upside? All we know is that he's a better runner. That only takes you so far.
No, it's just another case in a long line of MSU fans turning on QB in favor of the backup. Our fanbase is clueless about football.
I know he had more upside because Shapen was about to be out of eligibility. Might as well get Kamario more experience at that point. Shapen was as good as he was going to get. KT would improve as he got more in game reps.
Are you seriously saying that the end of the Florida game where Shapen's terrible decision cost us a shot to win the game didn't cost him the support of a lot of fans? How can you even argue that?
I'd rather try to get a win. And Shapen gave us the best chance of that.
I don't think Shapen improved our chances much if at all with that OL against Ole Miss. He was also terrible against Mizzou. 2 pick sixes the first was when we were down 10 in the 3rd quarter.
I’ve seen this posted too many times over the years. I’ll believe it when I see it.
Leach was widely hated and Arnett was crowned as the brains behind the operation. That is evidence of severe intellectual deficiency.
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Guess you never heard of RG3. He Played in this offense. Taylor has similar traits im not saying he’s RG3
That's actually a good point, I'll give you that, especially in this new playoff era. Once you miss the playoff, more and more teams will just tank and play for next year.
I'm sure it did. And it doesn't help that we have a bonehead coach. But Shapen's passing to-date has been about the only good part of the Lenny Error.
We were largely uncompetitive in that game, and Taylor looked like Omarr Conner playing in the Croom Coast. Hard to get much worse.
But yeah, overall, considering Lenny's dumb coaching, it was close enough that fans got to show their dumb side once again. Only QBs in my lifetime that didn't get booed were Sleepy (got hurt) and freaking Dak. This fanbase booed (multiple times) Nick 17-ing Fitzgerald.
I don't disagree with your overall point. Fans were way too critical of some good QBs and too supportive of mediocre backups. My point is that there was logic to playing KT. Shapen wasn't bad but KT also has potential. Its not like wanting to play Keton Thompson over Fitz.
That in and of itself is a red mark on Selmon. Either you know or you don't. Setting arbitrary marks like that is bush league.
Shapen was horrible. Now it has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that not even an arena football team wanted him. He single handedly cost us 3 games and tried to give away the Arizona state game. He had a bad attitude, and destroyed team morale. Lebby stuck with him for waaaay too long knowing it would be the last games of his life as a football player. Baylor said getting rid of him was the greatest move they ever made.
we aren’t running some kinda of charity that sends you off into the sunset. We need to have balls.
we aren’t running some kinda of charity that sends you off into the sunset. We need to have balls.
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No, I came to this board and made a post stating that Dak should be starting over Tyler Russell and got banned.
Everyone would prefer someone who can do both, but given the offensive line most people wanted someone who could avoid pressure considering there was so much of it on literally every single play. There were people who just wanted a change because they thought Shapen was awful, but that was not the majority. It was not fair to Shapen to leave him back there as a sitting duck.