Springsteen sells publishing to Sony for $500M

_Mav_

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Not to throw gas on the fire, but there's a live vid on YT of him playing some lead guitar on "Badlands"... and man, is it bad lol. You'd enjoy laughing at it.
If it's the one from Barcelona, it's hard to tell whether he's grimacing because he's trying to act tough, or because he had a momentary flash of clarity and realizes how truly terrible he is.
 

TruBluCatFan

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I read where some of this catalog selling was estate planning related. Many of these artists are in their 70's or 80's and maximizing the value of the catalog each year is legally complicated and time intensive. Thus these aging stars take cash to leave their heirs rather than a more complex asset.
Estate planning? The way he espouses his ultra liberal ideology I assumed he was donating it all as tax money to help Uncle Joe build it back better.
 

gamecockcat

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Again...incorrect. His best songwriting outside of BtR and Darkness, was on The Rising, and again of late w/ Western Stars and his most recent album last year w/ the EStB, (Letter to You) which is fantastic.

His "height" has never waned, as evident by all of his tours/works from 2012 to his unbelievable Broadway run. You are too focused on his "hits" that received air time instead of his body of work. He is probably more popular now than at any time since Born in the USA. His tour next year will be ridiculous.

I am biased, as evident by the # of times I have seen him and having studied his music for many, many years. I don't like his politics, but he is arguably the best singer/songwriter ever, and his live performances speak for themselves.
Your first paragraph is completely subjective and my post said that we can debate the quality of his most recent music vs. 'classic'. In your opinion, his best songwriting, blah, blah, blah. OK, I'll grant you that your opinion is that but it's clearly not a definitive, objective statement.

As the Rolling Stones will attest (owners of the #1 grossing tour in 2021), having sold out tours has very little to do with the height of his popularity. I have no doubt that if they live to 100, Mick and Keith will still be able to put 50K people in the stands to watch them play 'Jumpin Jack Flash' and 'Start Me Up'. Are they still at their height?

When you've been around 40+ years, it's pretty easy to sell out a show when you have fans from multiple decades that continue to pay outrageous prices to see you play the hits and a few new ones. Probably more popular now is very much a subjective statement. At his height, his albums and his shows were 'must see'. Hard to imagine he's gathering many new fans nowadays. I was a big fan but haven't listened to him for 20+ years at least. If you believe a Springsteen tour today would generate the same buzz as it did in 1976-1984, you are delusional.

Best singer/songwriter ever? Could there BE a more subjective statement? I agree, in his prime, his live shows were dynamite. Having him play acoustic songs to a fawning Broadway audience (at least the special I watched on TV) wasn't exactly riveting. And, honestly as a longtime guitar player, I didn't see exceptional songwriting craft on display during that special. It was fine but nothing really stood out as far as craftmanship (I know, I just foisted a completely subjective statement on you. When in Rome...).

I know you love you some Springsteen and that's fine. But enough with the 'I'm an expert and your opinion is not worthy' attitude.
 
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cole854

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Seriously man, pick a different Springsuck molehill to die on because defending "speedball" ain't gonna work for you.

If it is good enough for The Sporting News when they were the premier baseball pub in the biz, then it works for me. But aside from the fact that you are clueless, it works in the song. That is the ultimate have a nice day now move on moment so you won't continue to look like a dumbass.
 

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That is the ultimate have a nice day now move on moment
I don't blame you for wanting to move on. Defending 'speedball' is pathetic enough, but you actually bragged about spending "many, many YEARS" (emphasis mine) studying his music.

Years?😂 Good God that's embarrassing, even for you. It's the musical equivalent of spending years learning the first half of the alphabet.
 

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I don't blame you for wanting to move on. Defending 'speedball' is pathetic enough, but you actually bragged about spending "many, many YEARS" (emphasis mine) studying his music.

Years?😂 Good God that's embarrassing, even for you. It's the musical equivalent of spending years learning the first half of the alphabet.
For reference, name your 2-3 top artist/groups you like. Really curious.
 

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I happen to think than Springsteen is great. Much, much better than those dime a dozen rappers out there and all the bro-country selling their **** music. Those of you crushing Bruce, I'd like to know what you consider good music?
 

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How much of the visceral hatred of Springsteen is because of his politics? I’ve got to imagine a good bit of it because if you simply dislike an artist you usually don’t spend much time thinking about them.
 

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The only way I would ever go to a Bruce Springsteen concert is if Gwar were to come out on stage and slaughter him halfway through.

Bruce cares about poor people so much he has 500 million dollars now. The guy really understands the common man.
 

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Estate planning? The way he espouses his ultra liberal ideology I assumed he was donating it all as tax money to help Uncle Joe build it back better.
He has one daughter who rode in equestrian events at the last Olympics. That is a pretty expensive hobby. Who knows what his other two daughters are into.
 
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Dammit dude, how are you not familiar with my body of work on this subject? It's quite extensive. However, since you asked, here are a few of the many reasons I hate that **********...
  • He used the term "speedball" instead of "fastball" in a Glory Days lyric about a baseball player, for no reason at all other than he's a dumbass poser. No one in history -- no player, coach, manager, general manager, owner, announcer, analyst, commentator, agent -- has ever said 'speedball' when referring to a pitcher's fastball. It's idiotic. He didn't even need to use it to make the lyric work from a syllable standpoint; he used it because he's a moron, and personally, I find that offensive.
  • In the opening sequence of the video for the aforementioned Glory Days, it shows an ostensibly blue-collar, hard-working, salt-of-the-earth Bruce toiling away at his construction job while sporting a brand new, shiny red hard hat and aviator sunglasses. First, that entitled bastard has never worked a hard day in his life, so stop with the working-class-dog ********. At least throw your hat on the ground and scuff it up a little before the cameras start rolling, idiot. Second, aviators are MY schtick (see avatar), so f#ck off and get some f a g g o t y-***-Don-Henley-Boys-Of-Summer Wayfarers. They suit you better.

  • The Glory Days video could have just gone straight into a terrible song and that would have been bad enough. Unfortunately for the viewers, however, Springsuck decides to demonstrate his pitching for some inexplicable reason. He looks like an afflicted, uncoordinated orangutan throwing poo at kids. Now presumably no one would show off their throwing motion if they thought/knew it was terrible. Ergo, apparently Bruce thinks this good:

  • He fancies himself a be a rock star, yet hops around like a preening ballerina...

  • He fancies himself to be a rock star, yet sashays in the dark...

  • His cover of Santa Claus Is Coming To Town would make Helen Keller drive rusty nails through her own eardrums AND SHE WAS ALREADY DEAF.
  • Have I mentioned his pitching form? Hey dumbass, you're supposed to be winding up, not doing overhead tricep extensions.

  • He dumped an in-her-prime Julianne Phillips for this manly *****...

  • His songs -- ALL his songs -- suck. Period. Full stop.
  • He wears more makeup than Mary F#cking Kay.
  • He routinely subjects his fans to 3 hour+ concerts, thus violating the Constitution's provisions against the infliction of cruel and unusual punishment.
  • He looks like he's transitioning into Daisy Duke while trying to keep from pissing herself in the batter's box...


I could go on, but you get the point.
I really needed a good laugh tonight. This did the trick. My wife knows how much I dislike the boss and is wondering what I’m cracking up about
 

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I don't blame you for wanting to move on. Defending 'speedball' is pathetic enough, but you actually bragged about spending "many, many YEARS" (emphasis mine) studying his music.

Years?😂 Good God that's embarrassing, even for you. It's the musical equivalent of spending years learning the first half of the alphabet.
Have to admit thats pretty bad.
 
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I've disliked his music since I first heard it in the 70s. Never understood why he's so popular. His "singing" sounds like he's bearing down to take a dump. Can't play for **** and his songs suck.

He seems to appeal to party boys and dance bimbos who have shallow musical tastes. Maybe I'm missing something. I doubt it. To each their own.
 

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I've disliked his music since I first heard it in the 70s. Never understood why he's so popular. His "singing" sounds like he's bearing down to take a dump. Can't play for **** and his songs suck.

He seems to appeal to party boys and dance bimbos who have shallow musical tastes. Maybe I'm missing something. I doubt it. To each their own.
65 million albums sold
 

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I've disliked his music since I first heard it in the 70s. Never understood why he's so popular. His "singing" sounds like he's bearing down to take a dump. Can't play for **** and his songs suck.

He seems to appeal to party boys and dance bimbos who have shallow musical tastes. Maybe I'm missing something. I doubt it. To each their own.

He appeals to pedophiles. Made several trips to Epstein Island. Anyone who likes him should make you be BOLO
 
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Record sales is not necessarily a compelling argument. (Unless you're trying to make the case that most music consumers are empty-headed)

And politics has nothing to do with it. In fact, I've long mainteained that liberals, by and large, make much better music than conservatives.


(Art, in all its forms follows suit IMO)
 

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Record sales usually mean you've been raped by a music company higher up

Congrats on going Gold! Lol
 
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Bruce is an oddity. His more popular stuff, especially on the radio, is mostly garbage. But his lesser known album stuff, especially during the Darkness, The River and Nebraska years, was awesome. Other than that era, he’s barely listenable.
 

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Some of Bruce's pre "Born In The USA" songs are pretty good. Anything that he did post 1987 pretty much sucked IMO.
 

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Some of Bruce's pre "Born In The USA" songs are pretty good. Anything that he did post 1987 pretty much sucked IMO.

When I saw him at rupp during ‘the rising’ tour he was alternating each night between ‘thunder road’ and ‘born in the USA’. When I was leaving I heard multiple people complaining that he didn’t play ‘born in the USA’ and I wanted to punch them all
 
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-he's short and from new Jersey (sorry kook)...two strikes.
Stop exposing your ignorance. (Sorry Rudd, you Francophile femme). When your state has oceanfront views, call me.

onto Bruce… he hails from Freehold Which is not a working class town; affluent and liberal actually. Horse country. He has had and always had a lot of money. Albeit he found a niche by poaching on the struggling union-guy-anti-system anthems. Easy to take a chance and rip off Arlo Guthrie and produce mountains of crap as DrZoom and the Sonic Boom.

Meet the new Boss. His music is mediocre at best. I do like ‘Atlantic City’ when The Band covered.

Also, Bruce did mention Graig Nettles in Glory Days… the best 3rd basemen ever. At least he got that right. Kudos to that underbitten lefty.
 
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cole854

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Bruce isn't for everyone, and generally his catalog is too extensive for people like Chester and Mav to comprehend. Shallow minds have issues w/ him and others who push the envelope in their writings. However, given his accomplishments that have lasted decades, it is pretty stupid to discount him as anything but iconic.

I don't like or listen to many artists, but I will give them a chance and find out what their back story is before I make my decision. I am positive that I have listened to a bigger variety of artists than anyone on here, especially live.

To each their own.
 

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Which one of you douchenozzles wrote this love letter to the "boss"?

To this day when I hear that song
I see you standin' there on that lawn
Discount shades, store bought tan
Flip flops and cut off jeans
Somewhere between that settin' sun
I'm on fire and born to run
You looked at me and I was done
We were just gettin' started
I was singin' to you, you were singin' to me
I was so alive, never been more free
Fired up my daddy's lighter and we sang Oh-h-h-h-h-h
Stayed there 'til they forced us out
Took the long way to your house
I can still hear the sound of you sayin' don't go
When I think about you, I think about 17
I think about my old jeep
I think about the stars in the sky
Funny how a melody sounds like a memory
Like a soundtrack to a July Saturday night
Springsteen
I bumped into you by happenstance
You probably wouldn't even know who I am
But if I, whispered your name I bet
Would still be a spark
Back when I was gasoline
And this old tattoo had brand new ink
And we didn't care what your mom would think
About your name on my arm
Baby is it spring or is it summer
The guitar sounds or the beat of that drummer
You hear sometimes late at night
On your radio
Even though you're a million miles away
When you hear Born in the USA
You relive those glory days
So long ago
When you think about me, do you think about 17
Do you think about my old jeep
Think about the stars in the sky
Funny how a melody, sounds like a memory
Like a soundtrack to a July Saturday night
Springsteen
Springsteen
Whoa-oh-oh-oh
Whoa-oh-oh-oh
Funny how a melody, sounds like a memory
Like a soundtrack to a July Saturday night
Springsteen
Oh Springsteen
Whoa-oh-oh-oh
Whoa-oh-oh-oh
Whoa-oh-oh-oh
Whoa-oh-oh-oh
Whoa-oh-oh-oh
Whoa-oh-oh-oh
Whoa-oh-oh-oh