Springsteen sells publishing to Sony for $500M
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Dammit dude, how are you not familiar with my body of work on this subject? It's quite extensive. However, since you asked, here are a few of the many reasons I hate that **********...
- He used the term "speedball" instead of "fastball" in a Glory Days lyric about a baseball player, for no reason at all other than he's a dumbass poser. No one in history -- no player, coach, manager, general manager, owner, announcer, analyst, commentator, agent -- has ever said 'speedball' when referring to a pitcher's fastball. It's idiotic. He didn't even need to use it to make the lyric work from a syllable standpoint; he used it because he's a moron, and personally, I find that offensive.
- In the opening sequence of the video for the aforementioned Glory Days, it shows an ostensibly blue-collar, hard-working, salt-of-the-earth Bruce toiling away at his construction job while sporting a brand new, shiny red hard hat and aviator sunglasses. First, that entitled bastard has never worked a hard day in his life, so stop with the working-class-dog ********. At least throw your hat on the ground and scuff it up a little before the cameras start rolling, idiot. Second, aviators are MY schtick (see avatar), so f#ck off and get some f a g g o t y-***-Don-Henley-Boys-Of-Summer Wayfarers. They suit you better.
- The Glory Days video could have just gone straight into a terrible song and that would have been bad enough. Unfortunately for the viewers, however, Springsuck decides to demonstrate his pitching for some inexplicable reason. He looks like an afflicted, uncoordinated orangutan throwing poo at kids. Now presumably no one would show off their throwing motion if they thought/knew it was terrible. Ergo, apparently Bruce thinks this good:
- He fancies himself a be a rock star, yet hops around like a preening ballerina...
- He fancies himself to be a rock star, yet sashays in the dark...
- His cover of Santa Claus Is Coming To Town would make Helen Keller drive rusty nails through her own eardrums AND SHE WAS ALREADY DEAF.
- Have I mentioned his pitching form? Hey dumbass, you're supposed to be winding up, not doing overhead tricep extensions.
- He dumped an in-her-prime Julianne Phillips for this manly *****...
- His songs -- ALL his songs -- suck. Period. Full stop.
- He wears more makeup than Mary F#cking Kay.
- He routinely subjects his fans to 3 hour+ concerts, thus violating the Constitution's provisions against the infliction of cruel and unusual punishment.
- He looks like he's transitioning into Daisy Duke while trying to keep from pissing herself in the batter's box...
I could go on, but you get the point.
This is POTY type material. Lmfao.
I am literally LMAO at some of the takes on this thread. Jesus people, if you dislike the guy that much, change the channel. Spotify and XM Radio offer about 1000 options. Choose one you like and save your blood pressure for something important.
FWIW, I read in the business section today that Sony owns 30% of the songs played on Spotify (which I use, A LOT), so they may know something about what they are doing here. James Brown sold his catalogue for $90M. I mean, James Brown?? Now there's a guy that is famous that I literally can't name one song that I would listen to all the way through. So I don't . . .
FWIW, I read in the business section today that Sony owns 30% of the songs played on Spotify (which I use, A LOT), so they may know something about what they are doing here. James Brown sold his catalogue for $90M. I mean, James Brown?? Now there's a guy that is famous that I literally can't name one song that I would listen to all the way through. So I don't . . .
Playing a keyboard in your basement does not make you a musician
Even if one is a fan, I don't see any way to justify such a lofty purchase price. Tours might be huge but that's a different income stream. How many albums did he sell the last 20 years?
Licensing for shows and movies is the only real potential I see here and don't see that level of money. Of course there's the licensing for political candidates too, which is exactly where this premium payment was generated; much like the lofty weird book deals I post about in another thread
Duke and Cornell grads listen to Springsteen to understand the struggle of the common man.
Your posts are usually pretty level-headed. Are you OK? Blink twice if you're in danger.
I believe a lot of it is the publishing, i.e. copyrights for his songs. The companies that are buying the publishing of Dylan, Springsteen, Paul Simon, and a number of other artists must expect that there will be demand to cover those songs in the future.
Love me some classic soul, Marvin Gaye, Motown, the girl groups like the Supremes, and Spector's Wall of Sound.
James Brown, not so much. Not into Ray Charles either, but at least can name one or two songs I like.
It is all in the ear of the beholder my friend.
We've finally reached the "he's too sophisticated for you rubes to appreciate his genius" stage of the discussion
."You can't start a fire without a spark" ain't exactly Shakespeare.
There will be demand. 500 million worth of demand? It's their money. I just don't see it
Yeah, this entire post is pretty much ******** based on the "What are you listening to" thread...
"Shallow minds" lmfao.
The Springteen deal is with Sony. But most of the other deals have been private-equity based; basically a group of investors who have decide that it is good business to go out and pay tens or hundreds of millions for IP associated with these classic rock acts. There have been dozens of such deals. Obviously smart and successful people think there is a lot of value there.
Yeah because what was hot in 1984 New Jersey is going to be hot in 2040 Arizona.
Risking money is what makes capitalism go round. I am with you, I wouldn't pay that kind of money either for any of these catalogues, but then again, Mr. Sony didn't ask me to sign the promissory note or put up any money on the deal
I love seeing Mav get so worked up over this. It's definitely worth $500,000,000 of someone else's money to see it.
My pain is your gain, Wildcat friend.
Ya know... Im headed to the Lex Opera House tonight to see Greg Hahn... I shoulda saved my money and just called Mav to discuss Springsteen!We've finally reached the "he's too sophisticated for you rubes to appreciate his genius" stage of the discussion
"You can't start a fire without a spark" ain't exactly Shakespeare.
I like his older stuff and have seen him live 3 times. That being said, Mav is right about some of his comments. Glory Days with the "speedball" term and the video of him pitching clearly indicates this is guy who never played baseball and knows very little about it. It is a poser song. Dancing in dark video is also embarrassing in my opinion. When I was younger I thought he was much more genuine than he probably really is. I think some of his older stuff was probably inspired by his experiences but quiet a bit of it is probably simply creating a song and an image that captured the mood of the country at the time and would sell records.
Yep...
From 2011 - Feb 2020....78 concerts (66 different artists) and that includes everything from Yo-Yo Ma to Wynton Marsalis and Jazz at Lincoln Center to Chris Tomlin to Metallica to essentially every genre out there. Just picked it back up last month with Clapton, and Stapleton in Nashville last weekend.
Can we just forget the Born in the USA album was ever made and just concentrate on the rest of it please.
Remember when we were in high school in Lexington? Rupp Arena was brand new and one of our classmates’ dad worked at Rupp. We got tickets basically for free. I attended over 100 concerts the first ten years. Not to mention, another classmate of ours, Billy D’s parents ran one of the concession stands. We got fantastic lower arena seats for UK games, and all we had to do was fill cups with ice at halftime. That was my first “job” lol. I don’t attend concerts as often anymore. We attended the Eagles’ Hotel California kickoff show in Atlanta a week before COVID shut everything down in 2020, and just last week saw Marshall Tucker and Alabama in Savannah. I couldn’t even begin to put a number on how many concerts I’ve seen, but I’m guessing you aren’t the clubhouse leader on Cats Paws, bro.
To be fair, the 1980s was the heyday of music videos, and in retrospect I am sure a lot of stars from that era would cringe if they had to watch themselves from the perspective of 35 years later. I heard Don Henley of the Eagles express exactly that sentiment in an interview some time ago, said he wishes he had just skipped the whole damn video thing.
Hang on now... I LOVE the Eagles... but if there's a bigger douchebag than Springsteen its Don Henley.
I think you are 100% correct. However, I cringed at the time because he clearly had written those songs to be popular and not because of his experiences. That album was the first indication for me that he was not exactly what I thought he was. He is part a marketing creation and part authentic. And maybe the marketing piece is the larger piece. But only people close to him really know for sure.
Really growing up that was all I knew. I was in high school before I really knew anything but that and "Streets of Philadelphia"
I have heard that, but I don't limit my personal playlist based on douche baggery.
OT but I used to know a guy that worked security at Rupp Arena for several years, and met a lot of the top acts. He said the biggest ******* he ever met in his job at Rupp was Mr. Smalltown himself, John Cougar Mellencamp. Was a complete prick.
Which actually is fine by me, because other than one or two songs, never cared much for JCM either.
I haven't met a ton, but of all the people I've met that were 'famous' the only ones that were really douchey were that band Over the Rhine from Cincinnati. They had a total "Do you know who we are?!" vibe and I so badly wanted to say "well no not really" but I wanted to keep my job
Weird, I like them, have even seen them in concert, and they would have been near the bottom of acts I have seen that I would have guessed would have the big head, because, they really aren't that well known.
From talking to coworkers at various hotels I've worked at and other people I know in the industry, the smaller celebrities tend to be the biggest ********.
I've heard stories about people that were on reality shows that were huge pricks, and then a list celebrities that were more than happy to stand there and chat with staff and what not.
I've never met any HUGE stars, but the ones I have met have all been fairly cool.
Jeff Sheppard was kind of off putting, but he came across as more stressed out than anything else so it didn't really phase me. He was organizing a charity event and I assume he had a lot on his plate at the time.
I went to college with a girl who used to work summers as a cocktail waitress at one of the night clubs in Cincinnati. She despised Bob Seger. I had always thought he would be a down to earth kind of guy, but not according to her. She said every time he was in town that he would come to the night club with two bimbos and buy drinks all night. Then when she would ask him to sign his tab he would say I don't give autographs. She thought he was an obnoxious ***.
actually I need to correct myself. I met the guy that played Lewis in "Revenge of the Nerds" at a comic con once and he was a huge POS. To the point that the woman sitting with him was rather appalled and tried to apologize for him and he just rolled his eyes.
On the other hand, Booger was super nice and appreciative of my fandom.
On the other hand, Booger was super nice and appreciative of my fandom.
I’m not sure what you expected. He never claimed to be the people he wrote about who were based on character types he knew. He never had a job in his life other than playing in bands.
As far as his authenticity, he is supposed to be a super regular guy, visible around town, at the beach, and so forth. There are probably not more down to earth rock stars than him. But, no, he was not a car mechanic or union factory worker.