So, would it be a good thing for him to have a terrible season and Carolina ends up 5-7 but Sellers comes back for 2026?
The fact remains that these Mock Draft have been a part of it since Mel Kiper came on the scene. They are going to be done and someone has to be named in them. None of these guys really deserve it as of yet, but they have to rate them somehow. When I look at the names included along with Sellers (Manning, Klubnik, Nussmeier, Allar, the tall guy that transferred from California to Indiana), I don't see the big deal. Given that those are the names out there, I say, yea, that is about right when Sellers is included in that group. Now, we have a whole season ahead. Some of those names are bound to fall. Some others are bound to emerge. However, it's just crazy talk to me to think that Sellers can't be included in the names that the media is putting out there. Of course, he has things to work on. However, most freshman QBs do. ....and things are not like they used to be. It very well may be scenario where his name will still be one of interest even if he is not a finished product. That's professional sports right now. We all just saw it with CMB. At least I saw it anyway. It seems I am about the only one here still watching the NBA.
That was done by mistake. Just happened to be the last one on the list. Really wasn't interested in your two cents, but thanks anyway.
I only engage with your sorry self because you try to play internet warrior and try to throw out what people should or shouldn't say. You like to have the last word. So I am posting now because I know you will post again. Your control freak gene will make you do so.
LOL! I knew you couldn't help yourself. Good night. Now, go on post again. I give you the last word. it's clear you need it.
So tell me, were you ‘sold’ on Connor Shaw as a passer? If you say yes then I’ll just let you go, but Shaw’s three best attributes were his legs, his line, and an awesome set of receivers that made big time plays on the reg. It dim sure wasn’t his arm or passing skills.
Look, I was texted yesterday morning about Sellers being number one and number 12 in two mock drafts. As I texted back to him: "Let's hope he produces big this season. But only half of first-round draft choices ever meet expectations. Thus, by extension, you can expect only 50-60% of expected first round picks to ever be picked in the first round".
Sellers' success = improved OL performance
I agree, except I might it write it in reverse.
Agreed. Good thing we have a history of a strong offensive line.
Seriously, as has been said, Sellers made a lot of plays off broken plays. I dont want to see that as our primary offense.
We will see teams putting a spy on him on obvious passing downs and focusing on containment in their rush as well as pressure. His passing doesn't scare anyone right now.
Teams and critics have been saying this same thing about Lamar Jackson for like 8 years now. Further, I have no idea what some were expecting when Sellers took the field last year. Watching the kid in high school, you knew he was raw. South Florence's offense was just run game and deep balls. So, I knew he could throw the deep ball. The question was whether he could adapt to the requirements of intermediate and shorter throws on the next level. Further, besides TE Josh Simon, all of our receivers were incoming transfer portal guys, freshmen, or guys who had not established themselves at all. Frankly, I was braced for days like the ODU game and even worse. However, you saw progression from Game 1 to the Kentucky game and the Offense was able to make some plays to complement the Defense as the season wore on. After the Oklahoma game, the offense had progressed to competent and flat out saved us in the Missouri game. I get your point that how a player plays one season doesn't mean he will play that way going forward. However, I don't see it as unreasonable for fans to be encouraged by Sellers and the offense given their progression over last season.
Nobody has been higher on Sellers than me (except for maybe after the ODU game). I had to start a thread last preseason saying it was actually ok to be excited about Sellers since many were down on his potential: https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/yes-its-ok-to-be-excited-about-sellers.1400160/
Yeah, it doesn't mean we can't have great anticipation over what Sellers will do this year. Jackson average 5,9 ypc his first season. Sellers had 4.1 last year. But Sellers was considerably better as a passer than Jackson was his first year.
Yeah, the bowl game raised a lot of questions.
Illinois had a spy that did a good job. I think Sellers had 11 rushing attempts in the game but didn't get anywhere. We got out-schemed in that game.
That answer makes me more nervous though. If it was just our coaches handcuffing him that'd be one thing. If it was just a matter of Illinois scheming to neutralize him, that's more troubling.
Illinois played a bend but don't break defense with one spy, sometimes two. Sellers had a higher number of passing attempts. Sellers wasn't bad as a passer, 24-34 for 260 yds, but we would get bogged down in the red zone and Beamer was impatient. If Beamer just takes his FGs, we win the game. I know we didn't have the best FG kicker, but he could hit the ones less than 40 yds. Felt Beamer lost his composure in that game. You can't expect the team to be composed when the guy at the top is losing it.
I don't like Beamer's jumping up and down, hugging players, high-fiving them, etc. I guess I'm old-fashioned and conservative. I don't know if you remember Jim Carlen when he was here or Tom Landry when he was the Head Coach of the Dallas Cowboys. I like the business-like approach by a Head Coach. Joe Morrison did not show much emotion.
I'm glad to see you acknowledge that when a DC had a chance to scheme to stop Sellers running, he was able to. Every DC Sellers faces this season will have watched that tape and will put a spy or two on Sellers on every play. He rushed 16 times for 19 yds against Bama. The Clemson game was his best rushing game, 16 carries for 166 yds. He had 11 rushes for 19 yds against Illinois. They knew his passing wasn't a big threat so they made sure they contained his running, the exact thing every DC will scheme for this coming season. Sellers is most dangerous when he can scramble and break contain and then take off running when the pass play breaks down. DCs know that now and will prepare for it.
I'm glad we have a P4 opponent to start the season in Virginia Tech. We will see how our new OC, Shula does. VT's DC is new as well. Supposedly, this season is considered "pivotal" for Brent Pry there, his 4th. So, I have no doubt we will get their best shot.
So basically we could replace Shane with Cocky and not miss a beat?
I acknowledged before the season even started that our passing game and Sellers as a passer would be a work in progress. You are throwing a raw QB out there with no experienced receivers. My point has always been with detractors is what were you expecting. I thought he and the passing game had a surprisingly good season. Once Sellers got his fumbling issue under control, he protected the ball. 7 Ints. for a Freshman QB with young receivers. I will take take that. Almost 200 yds. per game. I will take that. Even in the Illinois game, Sellers was 24 for 34 for 260 yds, 1 TD, no turnovers. I went back and just finished watching that game due to this thread. I would give Sellers a C+ for that game and the type of game that he needs for his progression. As you said, everyone will watch tape of that game and try to find a way to stop the running game. One narrative I think that is incorrect though is that Sellers was just running all over the place. He had 674 yds rushing. Solid season running the ball, but he wasn't running around every play. He didn't have almost 250 Rushing Attempts, and over 1400 yds like the Cam Newton Heisman Year. I think the coaching staff, for the most part, did a good job with Sellers. I think they could have helped him some more with more drags across the middle in the Illinois game. The Illini's linebackers were just sitting there waiting for the run. Give him some crossers in the linebackers face to give them something to think about. That and the Illini's delay of game strategy is what I mean by saying we were out-schemed.