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121Josey

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I thought that the SEC umps were bad, but these refs in the SA-OKC series are turble at the end of the game.

I don't know how you don't call a foul when Westbrook begins to dribble but call a foul under the goal when Aldridge takes a swipe at Westbrook.

OKC would have probably won anyways, but that was a cheap way to end the game.
 

JungRebel

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OKC did enough to win the game, I don't think it's near as bad as the circus game two was. You can point to two crucial free throws Parker and Leonard missed in the last two minutes in this one too, but there should have been a foul called in the corner, the NBA will probably say as much tomorrow.
 
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I really can't stand it when guards get foul calls on dribble penetration where they go charging in completely out of control. Westbrook did it several times. Parker and Chris Paul are notorious for it as well.
 

PineGroveBully

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I was pretty sure when SA couldn't capitalize on that OKC turnover at mid court with less than 2 to play that it was ballgame.
 

121Josey

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I was pretty sure when SA couldn't capitalize on that OKC turnover at mid court with less than 2 to play that it was ballgame.

I knew that the refs were going to cost SA the game when SA shot an airball in the 4th QTR and the refs did not stop the play although everyone had stopped playing. It led to a Westbrook layup. I said, "It's going to be sad when that costs them the game."
 

scdog1

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I thought that there was a foul there also. I just get tired of watching SA ***** about every foul call. SA had their chance to win the game and they did not capitalize. As you said OKC would have probably won the game and I think the better team won.
 

121Josey

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I thought that there was a foul there also. I just get tired of watching SA ***** about every foul call. SA had their chance to win the game and they did not capitalize. As you said OKC would have probably won the game and I think the better team won.

If you got tired of watching SA ***** about every foul call, then you probably cut the game off well into the 4th QTR. Did you cut off the game before OKC's next to last possession? You remember, the one where Steven Adams blatantly trips Denny Green AFTER Green goes around him on the screen. The one that causes Green to run into Durant, who goes on to make 2 free-throws, and changes the course of the game.

I'm glad you think the better team won. That's got to count for something. That seems to be the common response this series when so many blatant calls go against SA. One possession games and people are sure that the better team won.
 

Drebin

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If you got tired of watching SA ***** about every foul call, then you probably cut the game off well into the 4th QTR. Did you cut off the game before OKC's next to last possession? You remember, the one where Steven Adams blatantly trips Denny Green AFTER Green goes around him on the screen. The one that causes Green to run into Durant, who goes on to make 2 free-throws, and changes the course of the game.

I'm glad you think the better team won. That's got to count for something. That seems to be the common response this series when so many blatant calls go against SA. One possession games and people are sure that the better team won.

So you are clearly a San Antonio homer.

I don't care either way, but between Ginobili, Parker, and Duncan, San Antonio historically gets a lot of ******** calls, and those guys cry and cry when they don't. Duncan probably thinks he's never once in his career committed an actual foul. The guy's point is a good one - SA bitches and cries about just about every foul call - especially the three I just mentioned. And don't get me started on the ridiculous flopping that Parker, Mills, and Ginobili love to do.

After watching Duncan and Aldridge repeatedly mugging Zach Randolph with no calls, it's hard for me to have sympathy for any of them.
 

121Josey

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So you are clearly a San Antonio homer.

I don't care either way, but between Ginobili, Parker, and Duncan, San Antonio historically gets a lot of ******** calls, and those guys cry and cry when they don't. Duncan probably thinks he's never once in his career committed an actual foul. The guy's point is a good one - SA bitches and cries about just about every foul call - especially the three I just mentioned. And don't get me started on the ridiculous flopping that Parker, Mills, and Ginobili love to do.

After watching Duncan and Aldridge repeatedly mugging Zach Randolph with no calls, it's hard for me to have sympathy for any of them.

My credentials say Grizzlies homer. But I guess that's close enough to a Spurs homer. So, you're a Spurs hater because the Spurs have HISTORICALLY won championships. Got it.

By SA mugging the Grizzlies, you're saying it's okay for the refs to swallow the whistle in all the (playoff) games. Sounds like a winner, if the Grizz didn't lose by 9 or more in every game.

I'm sure you've never seen Westbrook ***** about a call. They probably don't keep a stat for technical fouls during a season.

Isn't there a rule now against flopping? Oh, you're still talking about the Spurs HISTORICALLY. That's sweet.
 

Drebin

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My credentials say Grizzlies homer. But I guess that's close enough to a Spurs homer. So, you're a Spurs hater because the Spurs have HISTORICALLY won championships. Got it.

By SA mugging the Grizzlies, you're saying it's okay for the refs to swallow the whistle in all the (playoff) games. Sounds like a winner, if the Grizz didn't lose by 9 or more in every game.

I'm sure you've never seen Westbrook ***** about a call. They probably don't keep a stat for technical fouls during a season.

Isn't there a rule now against flopping? Oh, you're still talking about the Spurs HISTORICALLY. That's sweet.


I don't know anything about you or your credentials.

What I see is a guy crying about San Antonio not getting calls. And I'm merely responding that it's rich, given that you're talking about the Spurs. Yes, I've seen Westbrook and a lot of other players ***** about calls. But Duncan and Parker take it to an art form. Like I said, and you glossed over, I don't care who wins the series.

No calls on Duncan and Aldridge didn't cost the Grizzlies wins, clearly. Likewise, officials didn't decide any of these games, either. Execute down the stretch. Hit your free throws. Officials always swallow their whistles at the end of games, especially playoff games. Stop crying about the officials. It's not a good look. Very few people outside of yourself have much sympathy for the Spurs.
 

121Josey

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No calls on Duncan and Aldridge didn't cost the Grizzlies wins, clearly. Likewise, officials didn't decide any of these games, either. Execute down the stretch. Hit your free throws. Officials always swallow their whistles at the end of games, especially playoff games. Stop crying about the officials. It's not a good look. Very few people outside of yourself have much sympathy for the Spurs.

Sympathy for the Spurs and bitching about the officiating are two different things. I'm glad to see that you are so unbiased that you have no sympathy for the Spurs - however that's supposed to work, I don't know. I don't see though how wanting to see a good finish and at least one overtime in a competitive basketball game makes me an apologist for the Spurs. But I've never seen this level of incompetence in officiating in playoff games. It's a lot more pleasing to watch someone like S.Curry go supernova to win a playoff game than have to watch that 4th QTR last night.
 

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I think the officiating has been inconsistent this series for what I've watched of it. But the Spurs haven't done anything to help themselves in the 4th quarter of the last two games. This series should've been over by now --- instead I'm afraid it's going to end in OKC.
 

dogfan96

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The shot clock no-call was correct. Adams clearly has control of the ball with time still remaining on the shot clock. Even if it was simultaneous to the clock going to zero, the refs are still instructed to let play continue. So that's the Spurs fault for stopping on the play. And if Tony Parker makes his FT, they don't have to foul and that play never happens. So they can only blame themselves, no matter how much you play the "NBA wants more games and ratings card".

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121Josey

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The shot clock no-call was correct. Adams clearly has control of the ball with time still remaining on the shot clock. Even if it was simultaneous to the clock going to zero, the refs are still instructed to let play continue. So that's the Spurs fault for stopping on the play. And if Tony Parker makes his FT, they don't have to foul and that play never happens. So they can only blame themselves, no matter how much you play the "NBA wants more games and ratings card".

Please explain to me how the refs are "instructed to let play continue". If ever in doubt, the refs take the ball out of bounds. The Spurs were not the only team that stopped playing. Westbrook was the only player that played on. The announcers even called it a shot clock violation. I see that you stopped it at .1 second. Can the refs determine that in real time? What would have been the difference in taking the ball out of bounds on the baseline other than an unfair advantage?
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If Parker makes his free throw...? They told the refs that they were going to foul. Everybody knew they were going to foul. The Spurs foul. The refs do not make the call. Then Aldridge doesn't foul Westbrook but they call him for the foul and count the basket. If the foul isn't called with the basket, it's still a 3-point game.

In the last two possessions, the refs gave the Thunder three unmerited free-throws. You can't overcome that argument. Oh, by the way, there is instant replay if the refs were in doubt about anything.
 

dogfan96

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So let me get this straight... even though there's VIDEO EVIDENCE that the correct non-call was made, you want them to stop the ball "just because" other people stopped too? That's crazy. That's like saying football refs should blow a play dead bc the defense THOUGHT the guy's knee was down when it actually wasn't and he kept running. And yes, if the opposing team gains possession simultaneous to the shot clock expiring the refs are instructed to let play continue so that they don't lose out on a transition opportunity. You can't use instant replay to call or not call a foul.. only to determine whether a foul that was called occurred before/after time expired in a period/shot clock.
 
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121Josey

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So let me get this straight... even though there's VIDEO EVIDENCE that the correct non-call was made, you want them to stop the ball "just because" other people stopped too? That's crazy. That's like saying football refs should blow a play dead bc the defense THOUGHT the guy's knee was down when it actually wasn't and he kept running. And yes, if the opposing team gains possession simultaneous to the shot clock expiring the refs are instructed to let play continue so that they don't lose out on a transition opportunity. You can't use instant replay to call or not call a foul.. only to determine whether a foul that was called occurred before/after time expired in a period/shot clock.

So let me get this straight, a player catches the ball with .1 second (one/tenth of a second), the red backboard light engages, the horn sounds, players on both teams stop playing, it leads to a layup, and you think the refs made the right call? Dubmass.

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