That's exactly what happen
But frank doesn't like losing on the recruiting trail and that's caused some bad blood
But frank doesn't like losing on the recruiting trail and that's caused some bad blood
SR 2 - 0; MC 0 - 2 in CCL Blue!
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Perhaps because Rice has gotten more kids out of the south suburbs that used to be pretty much MCs to cherry pick. But now a days it's tough all over. Kids come in to Rice from Plainfield to Hinsdale to Crete/Monee to Portage IN to Westchester. Same applies to Rita, MC, etc
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MC has not played well vs Rice the last 3 games (losses in '15, '14, all the talent they had in '13 only beat a 3-6 BR by a score) and in the '12 round 1 game were trailing at the half with their best team since '98. Not looking good Friday.
MC has not played well vs Rice the last 3 games (losses in '15, '14, all the talent they had in '13 only beat a 3-6 BR by a score) and in the '12 round 1 game were trailing at the half with their best team since '98. Not looking good Friday.
That's what I heard. Negative recruiting was the catalyst for the pass just before half. BR expanded it's recruitment area for students East to areas that MC called theirs. Thus the hard feelings.
All that being said the BR beat MC by three scores if MC doesn't bring their A+ game. If BR plays their A+ game the will wine regardless I wonder how that helps recruiting students?
That's false about negative recruiting
Rice just actually started to recruit and not lay down and die like years past
Rice just actually started to recruit and not lay down and die like years past
Good ole Frankie boy was trying to send a message to a new coach in the CCL. Not the first time he's done that.
Rice is notorious for negative recruiting against SR. When I graduated St. Bernadette in 92, all the Rice guys kept asking my dad "how can you send your son to that neighborhood". Rice perpetuates the nonsense regarding the neighborhood. I've talked to a handful of black kids from the far south suburbs [who were choosing between SR and BR] who stated that Rice's pitch to them was "if you are going to spend 10k on education, you might as well go to a school in a nice neighborhood".
Maybe SR pulls the same crap. But BR definitely negatively recruits against SR.
Too me what you have pointed out is common sense. Safety for students isn't negative but a reality.
Rice is in a safer neighbor without question. To me that's like pointing out one school athleticfacilities are better then another.
Rice is in a safer neighbor without question. To me that's like pointing out one school athleticfacilities are better then another.
Okay; maybe your right. But there is zero evidence of safety risks for SR students; at least currently. When I went to SR, basically everyone took the CTA bus. And there was potential for some problems. However, even then there was always a SR Administrator (or off-duty cop) standing in the CTA bus station (at 79th & Western) to make sure there were no problems.
Now, SR offers private transportation to all students, negating the need to take the bus. Plus, SR has an off-duty cop at that CTA bus Terminal for the kids who still take the CTA. Unlike the 63rd street campus, the 77th street campus is isolated from teh surrounding neighborhood. So again, there is no evidence of higher safety risks for SR students.
Maybe i'm wrong, but I think it is misleading and disingenuous by BR to reference the bad neighborhood surrounding SR when there is no evidence of any safety risks for the SR students.
Wow. Sick to my stomach reading this. Go_rice is writing this same stuff but about Gately in the feeto thread.
Seriously, you are going to watch a great Catholic League football game Friday night. And you are going to cheer for many great players on the field that (from the tone of your posts) you would think differently about if you seen them in another part of town without their school jacket on.
And it's not common sense, except in some circles. You are not having a private conversation. Keep it to the great game Friday night. Can the MC ground game keep BR's quick strike offense off the field enough to make the 4th quarter interesting?
And don't come back with crime rates and statistics. The only stat I need to know is that in 25 years, SR appreciates serving the hard working families surrounding 79th St. and their excellent respect in return of its campus.
I know you did not start the negative recruiting statement but your justification and defense of it was pretty unpleasant for some readers of this public forum.
Seriously, you are going to watch a great Catholic League football game Friday night. And you are going to cheer for many great players on the field that (from the tone of your posts) you would think differently about if you seen them in another part of town without their school jacket on.
And it's not common sense, except in some circles. You are not having a private conversation. Keep it to the great game Friday night. Can the MC ground game keep BR's quick strike offense off the field enough to make the 4th quarter interesting?
And don't come back with crime rates and statistics. The only stat I need to know is that in 25 years, SR appreciates serving the hard working families surrounding 79th St. and their excellent respect in return of its campus.
I know you did not start the negative recruiting statement but your justification and defense of it was pretty unpleasant for some readers of this public forum.
I couldnt agree with you more about SR and serving the 79th St along with the surrounding neighborhoods. I have more Rita blood then Rice. You are never going to hear a stat or criminal rate coming from me. Sorry for any unpleasantness over my comments because that was not my attention at all. In the end we are all talking about great schools that provide a service for young men that you hope take what they learn and ran with it throughout their lives.
No problem. Didn't mean to lecture. I just went from reading feeto's thread where a rice fan mentioned 'fearing for your life' at Gately and then went into this thread seeing you and Septon going a little back and forth. Always enjoy your football posts and your passion for Rice. Enjoy Friday night. Should be a nice night for football.
Maybe Rice should join the ESCC to avoid the "inner city".
I've heard 100 different stories, I probably believe 10 of them. I know some true facts from personal experience that I'll keep off the board, but I hope Badke has put aside some of his hatred for MC, he was a new Coach, this is how he feeds his family, I think he was too sensitive to being the new kid on the block with Lenti and Kuska, hopefully he is over it.
Not to mention, he told Badke at the end of the game "welcome to the Catholic league". Brian returned the favor the following with same words resulting in Uncle Frank refusing to shake his hand.
My ill-feelings for BR are well-known. But that's actually a pretty damn funny (and appropriate) move by Badke if Lenti really said that the year before.
Rumor had it there was a "prep bowl" comment made during hand shake after MC defeated BR in 2012 IHSA Rd 1.
As the plot thickens Badke pissed not only MC's coach but also Marist's, St Larry, and St.Rita's for this first year recruiting practices. None of the coaches complained to the Chgo Catholic League but Lenti took it out on the field. But the league office had numerous complaints from parents and alumni thou. The league office told him to cool it but took no action. Info from a former Red conference coach is solid. Sounds like this is a dead issue now.
Changing course why does everyone in the league dislike Coglianese? What did he do? How safe is his job with another three win season? Will PC go ESCC or drop down as did Fenwick when they couldn't cut the mustard any more? For just football isn't Marist and JCA a better fit in the CCL? Should Fenwick come back to the blue? Or did the loss to LA scare them away?
It's only Tuesday and this tread is dead.
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I have no ill will towards MC, SR, StL or any others. Well, maybe Marist a little. Just pointing out that Feeto started a thread to disparage BR, our stadium, the parking situation & referred to us not being able to control ourselves in regards to tailgating. I know Coach Mitch was a "Man of Carmel" & a great man. I would never start a thread, let alone one that disparages another school. So why are you MC guys so butthurt that I pointed out MC's flaws? It is silly & a rivalry but perhaps Feeto should stop with the constant BR jabs. I guess another loss Friday will shut him up.
Brother Rice begged me and my wife to allow my son to attend school there for football. Even offered us the entire 4 years for free. He chose to go to St Rita. The "Mustang Award" was not offered to us. Your comment is foolish when it was YOUR school that offered the free ride....
Got that in writing? I can tell you flat out being on the Finance Committee that such offers are not authorized nor exist nor would be honored by the school. If you wish to private message me the name of the individual who said this to you then I will take it up with them.
Or my kid is going D1 thread
No at rice goes to school for free.
You should of taken them up on their offer
If the mustang award wasn't coming through
No at rice goes to school for free.
You should of taken them up on their offer
If the mustang award wasn't coming through
More BS by Rice. I got the Mustang Award and I was a mediocre, if not crappy, athlete.
This Friday BR is prohibitive favorite and MC really needs the game. BR should win but is it just my impression but is BR always searching for an identity in the CCL? Or do they have an inferior complex with MC? BR never seems to get any respect. And although in the CCL their big rival seems to be with ESCC Marist not in their own conference.
Talking a lunch today with Leo and DLS guys. They brought up a point. If BR changed locations with Leo, MC, DLS, or SR they would close in a very short time. They are the largest all male school and travel very poorly if not in the suburbs. I never thought about but they always had the smallest crowds at Gatley out of PC, LA, SR and of course MC as it is there home field. Is it true BR dislikes PC even more than MC? Why is it the BR never gets any respect?
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Talking a lunch today with Leo and DLS guys. They brought up a point. If BR changed locations with Leo, MC, DLS, or SR they would close in a very short time. They are the largest all male school and travel very poorly if not in the suburbs. I never thought about but they always had the smallest crowds at Gatley out of PC, LA, SR and of course MC as it is there home field. Is it true BR dislikes PC even more than MC? Why is it the BR never gets any respect?
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Well Rice doesn't have 10 plus state championships so you build a football identity (and a big following) that way. Plus we're only 57 years old unlike the 100 plus years of Rita, MC, Leo and DLS (so four additional generations make for more alumni giving, more legacies, etc). Granted we at Rice want to see as many state championships as possible but we don't get hung up on football as our saving grace. Frankly I gave my biggest donation to Rice not due to football but to the fact they won the Scholastic Bowl regional they were in. Sounds corny but I enjoy seeing the great success of the band and their academics over sports. Anyway, I would expect the game at Rita will be a well attended game. But with the Cube and MeTV and Rice's own broadcasts it's easier to watch at home as well.
Feeto has yet to pick a BR opponent in his legendary weekly thread this season. What could be a higher sign of respect than that?
Fair response. But 57 years is a long time. Maybe MC just doesn't want to expand the old boys network. Wonder how long Lenti took to accept Kuska or Holecek.
I will not be outing any person from Br Rice to you or anybody but do not act like it did not happen because it did. So talk your garbage about St Rita giving away free educations while acting like Rice is holier than thou some place else.
So let me get this straight Rice offered for tuition but you choose Rita and pay full price.
40k swing.
Anyone that offered that doesn't have the authority to offer it because it doesn't happen. Trust me your kid ain't that good anyways but I'm sure he's going D1 haha
40k swing.
Anyone that offered that doesn't have the authority to offer it because it doesn't happen. Trust me your kid ain't that good anyways but I'm sure he's going D1 haha