You can email me at [email protected] I take that accusation seriously and intend to take up your situation with the powers that be. Note unless you do - then all I can assume is that you are dramaticizing the dialogue you had with whomever you met with. Rice offers financial aid based upon financial need and/or academic performance. There are no athletic scholarships. To my understanding, MC-Rita-Rice-Laurence-etc all allow alumni to assist any student with their tuition.
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Don't all Catholic schools award scholarships, based on either merit or need?
I was just wondering if other schools had a "Caravan" or "Crusader" award. If so, do these awards cover the financial need only? Can a student whose parents can afford the tuition still get these types of awards?
Tribune ranks best HS football experiences: LINK
Look who #1 is. And not one mention of splinters in your rear or mean nuns!
Discuss.
Look who #1 is. And not one mention of splinters in your rear or mean nuns!
Discuss.
Someone from the Trib really must not like Feeto (or be a Rice grad) - I mean it has to be the reason it's on the list
You are either in denial or out of touch if you think there isn't athletic scholarships. These are private schools they receive no money from the state there is no fasfa. Their financial aid is all up to them. I understand you say it is based on need. But two family can have the same income but might not pay the same. I'm not sure about the past but I know BR is defiantly giving money off for more then academics or need.
I know what the link scholarship is. That is a good thing the student has a mentor very aware of it. Also that is an african american scholarship so you are not making sense when you say they are funded by link. Financial aid has to do with income not race. I'm talking about the school coming up with a number for tuition and a parent Countering with a different number. I am not saying the student is going there for free. Also know of instances where said student got a certain amount off tuition one year then was not as good as anticipated and then had to pay full price following year and ended up transfering.
It sound however you want to hear it. Either way it is giving money off based on athletics. BR is defiantly not the only school doing it. In fact they lost a couple of kids to Marist after summer camp had already started a couple years ago because Marist came up with better package. I just really don't get the holier than thou attitude Br people have about it.
I'm not that well versed in private high schools so this is an honest question and I'm not trying to be flippant..
But isn't there a set standard tuition that is listed/posted for all to see and evaluate? Then there is some sort of formula to determine eligibility for financial aid (similar to college financial aid forms)?
Wouldn't "negotiation" and discounts without a non partial financial aid formula create some "issues"?
15 years ago you would be correct. The difference now a day is the enrollment at most these schools are down so they see it as a half a payment is better than no payment at all. I also don't mean to give the impression that every parent is negotiating
But it does go on. As far as your question on a set standard I explained earlier that there is no set standard because they come up with the amount as the school is not funded by any organization they are just agreeing to lower you tuition.
But it does go on. As far as your question on a set standard I explained earlier that there is no set standard because they come up with the amount as the school is not funded by any organization they are just agreeing to lower you tuition.
Chi-Town - I can tell you this - since you're not a Rice grad, since you don't have a kid at Rice and because you're not on the Finance Commitee - you're wrong. However nothing anyone would say to you would convince you otherwise so on top of being wrong you're ignorant about how financial aid is distributed to Rice students. So instead of ragging about Rice and tossing around falsehoods go and enjoy your Cubs baseball team.
Sadly enough I am not a cubs fan. Die hard white sox. Also you have no clue who i am. everything I have stated is fact. I am not ragging on anyone as I said it goes on everywhere just don't get the holier than thou attitude.
Voodoo,
College tuitions are also negotiable if the school wants the scholar or athlete and the parents go back to the school and say I want my child to go here but we can't afford it. Often the school will see if there are other scholarships they might "qualify" or find applicable to their need.
Another example would be the Ivy League schools and football. The Ivy League does not give football scholarship nor does the pioneer league, BUT let's say your son is being recruited by Brown and they offer a package of $50k against a tuition of $66k with parental income of $150k and only retirement sayings. The student also has documented offers from Yale or Harvard who are known to make school virtually free for everyone because of the size of their classes and endowments. Brown/Penn/Cornell/Dartmouth etc... Will all be allowed to match that full ride by the league and university. They may also match a full ride from Stanford, Duke, or Northwestern to even cover additional full cost of attendance expenses including travel and subsistence. It's an interesting ride to consider if you can reach the minimum ACT requirement of 26-28 and a 3.5 core to gain entry into those schools.
Hope this adds some intrigue to this thread.
College tuitions are also negotiable if the school wants the scholar or athlete and the parents go back to the school and say I want my child to go here but we can't afford it. Often the school will see if there are other scholarships they might "qualify" or find applicable to their need.
Another example would be the Ivy League schools and football. The Ivy League does not give football scholarship nor does the pioneer league, BUT let's say your son is being recruited by Brown and they offer a package of $50k against a tuition of $66k with parental income of $150k and only retirement sayings. The student also has documented offers from Yale or Harvard who are known to make school virtually free for everyone because of the size of their classes and endowments. Brown/Penn/Cornell/Dartmouth etc... Will all be allowed to match that full ride by the league and university. They may also match a full ride from Stanford, Duke, or Northwestern to even cover additional full cost of attendance expenses including travel and subsistence. It's an interesting ride to consider if you can reach the minimum ACT requirement of 26-28 and a 3.5 core to gain entry into those schools.
Hope this adds some intrigue to this thread.
Just like the other guy - send me the email - give me the name of the kid who's getting an athletic schoolie - or the parent that told you that - or the coach who supposedely did this? I am waiting. As mentioned I am on the Committee and I know where every f'ing dollar of financial aid goes and who it goes to. So unless you respond then you're out of line
Guys Topiary is right and anyone who's been around here for anytime knows we are not buds by any stretch. NO student in the Catholic system is scholarshiped for athletics PERIOD! There are athletes that get full rides from academic performance on the entrance exam and from school performance at various schools, or leadership awards( for work in the community), Etc... There are also groups like Broad Shoulders and the like that add scholarship to what awards schools make.
Now to a topic that Topiary brought up earlier in the thread...there is nothing preventing generous parents or Alum from directly paying any students tuition, but that is not an act of the school. I'm not so naive or jaded to see these types of funding as anything more than scholarship for athletics, but it is certainly within the rules to proceed.
QUOTE="Topiary, post: 105659, member: 60"]Just like the other guy - send me the email - give me the name of the kid who's getting an athletic schoolie - or the parent that told you that - or the coach who supposedely did this? I am waiting. As mentioned I am on the Committee and I know where every f'ing dollar of financial aid goes and who it goes to. So unless you respond then you're out of line[/QUOTE]
Now to a topic that Topiary brought up earlier in the thread...there is nothing preventing generous parents or Alum from directly paying any students tuition, but that is not an act of the school. I'm not so naive or jaded to see these types of funding as anything more than scholarship for athletics, but it is certainly within the rules to proceed.
QUOTE="Topiary, post: 105659, member: 60"]Just like the other guy - send me the email - give me the name of the kid who's getting an athletic schoolie - or the parent that told you that - or the coach who supposedely did this? I am waiting. As mentioned I am on the Committee and I know where every f'ing dollar of financial aid goes and who it goes to. So unless you respond then you're out of line[/QUOTE]
I forgot about the Ivy League. That is a good analogy. No wonder they get so many good players heading there - if the tuition can be heavily discounted or obtained for free - that is a very good deal!
Whats the difference now then 5/6 years ago at Br Rice?
why are they getting the players now that Rita and MC use to get?
why are they getting the players now that Rita and MC use to get?
Huh? College scholarship money? Brin as mentioned to others - there is no athletic scholarship awards and/or forms or letters or grants. Based upon each student there is a non-binding evaluation of what a parent could prospectively expect in financial aid if they opt to attend
Doesn't every high school tell prospective students they will help them get scholarship money to college? That is one of the main purposes of the counseling department. Go to any Catholic web page and they will list how much $ a graduating class earned in college scholarships. It is one of the main selling points of a high school
There are NO athletic scholarships from any of the CCL high schools. And I highly doubt that any kid is going to school for free. The criticism against CCL schools (and especially against SR, MC, and BR) is that more tuition reductions are given to athletes compared to non-athletes. Now, maybe I'm naive, but I honestly believe all kids who receive tuition reductions do so because they otherwise lack the financial resources to pay for the school. However, the "issue" is whether a non-athlete would receive an identical tuition reduction. I wholly lack the knowledge to have an opinion on that issue.
Of course not, because that would be against the rules, but don't play dumb. You know there are alumni donating money earmarked for graduates and that money is being promised to students before they step foot in your doors if they provide certain services.
I am not party to the financial awards of the school but Rice seems to have made an effort with Badke, O'Connell, McCarthy and Frazier to put an emphasis on getting kids in the school that can make their programs and the school a success.
I think there is more of a concerted effort to get kids in the door. You are seeing this at Laurence now as well.
I think there is more of a concerted effort to get kids in the door. You are seeing this at Laurence now as well.
The student I was talking about that received money one year then money was taken away then transfer would be a senior now. This individual was from Frankfort and is now attending the Lincoln ways. If you know where every dollar goes then you know the said student I am talking about. I am not here to sling Mudd at any individual or school. I played and coached in the ccl so I am definitely not anti private. But if you are going to stick out your chest that Br is different from everywhere else I will call you out.
I am not really defending Topairy here but I think he was more defending the idea of a coach walking into a house and handing a kid a free ride for 4 years to a high school.
I think there is a lot of money to get a kid in the door and then this money goes away after year 1 and that is not necessarily for athletics.
Go through my post I never said kids were getting offered free rides. He's claiming athletics has nothing to with the amount a student gets off which is just flat out a lie. Bottom line let's get back to talking football. Especially BR fans who have a chance to do something this year that they haven't done in over 30 years.
Brin - that does not mean it's an athletic scholarship. An alum or friend or anyone can earmark a donation to a prospective student to assist them with tuition and/or fees. However there are no tax deductions/write offs for those contributions to a specific student (unlike those an alum makes for let's say to help fund a language trip or purchase toner ink, etc).
Then call me out. Sent me the email and I will investigate and privately discuss the facts of the case. Again email me your information and I will get to the bottom of this since you seem to be the one making accusations of wrong doing on our part. - however if I do (and note this kid's name - whoever you seem to be talking about - will never be disclosed on this board) then if you're shown evidence that refutes your accustation, then you need to go on to this board and apologize to the school for making such insinuations. Only fair isn't it?
Yikes! I could see where there is the potential of certain alumni with specific pastime passions might allocate funds to students who share their similar pastime passion! Great for the kid - he's going to get a fantastic educational opportunities and even though not a tax deduction - some Alum can feel good about "paying it forward" as they soak in their gold bathtub at night!!.
Hopefully those funds don't dry up if the students passions change during high school. No one wants to end up like the guy pumping gas in the movie "Johnny Be Good" where Johnny and friends are stopping by to refuel during a college recruiting trip and the gas pumping attentant was telling Johnny about how he lost his scholarship from the Texas Horny Toads after he hurt is knee but they did get him this job!
With a name like Bruiser, I am sensing the participants will and thus far have obliged! Welcome to the posting community.
The one thing you are right about is Marist coming up with a package. Not a better package but a package at all. You are talking about Teague and the agent from Marist is the dad/coach from Marist who facilities the money from a huge donor that Marist has