St.Rita Prep Bowl
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The Prep Bowl criteria is as follows...All Blue teams qualify, everyone else must have a winning record within their conference and crossover games. Providence chooses not to participate and DLS finished 4-3 in their CCL games. DLS at St. Rita Friday night at 7:00pm, winner waits to see who is eliminated from IHSA playoffs.
Thanks guys.I forgot to mention something.When I was bragging in the Prep Bowl & a few people let me know they wanted it gone.I talked with a CPS high up & he said if that ever happens he will allow all eligible Inner City & Chicago Conference teams to play in the state playoffs which would knock out many 5-4 teams
Interesting. I know there's the annual discussion discussion about the private schools all just breaking off, but it's usually concluded to be not feasible. Has it ever been suggested about using the prep bowl as a model with the privates breaking off with CPS (any other publics can break off if they wish). Two classes with boundaried CPS and the smallest privates and then a large class with the larger privates and unboundaried CPS schools. Large enough to be sustainable an diverse enough to meet diverse member needs.
Can I ask a question: Why can't we just get rid of the Prep Bowl? Isn't this idea of a NIT style tourney obsolete? Obviously I would imagine the CCL would want to keep this as long as possible but honestly does anyone care anymore about the Prep Bowl? And I'm just asking an honest question to all the CCL guys (and CPS guys for that matter)?
CPL coach here.
I realize that the Prep Bowl is a consolation prize so to speak. I believe it's there, 1) because it was the original playoff and 2) it gives the CPL something to work for other than state. If it was really that awful then CCL teams would all decline. It allows teams to keep playing and continue to build on the next season with younger players. I don't see it going anywhere and it's not holding any programs back.
I realize that the Prep Bowl is a consolation prize so to speak. I believe it's there, 1) because it was the original playoff and 2) it gives the CPL something to work for other than state. If it was really that awful then CCL teams would all decline. It allows teams to keep playing and continue to build on the next season with younger players. I don't see it going anywhere and it's not holding any programs back.
I honestly do not care about it at all, but I am not making the decisions here. The state championship is the only one for me.
It's a tradition - gives teams who miss out on the playoffs and/or have an early exit with an opportunity to play in a historic game
Not being a coach, and not speaking with all of them, I don't know how the coaches feel about it. But seems like it could be a valuable tool for a program like SR. For instance, SR should bring up their sophomore QB (who is a midget, but whom I think is better than the two kids on varsity) and let him play against De La Salle. Similarly, SR has a soph linebacker who I think was good enough to play on varsity. The experience from the prep bowl playoffs (be it one game or four) is invaluable to these sophs. I'm guessing it gets a little dicey for coaches as they probably feel allegiance to seniors, and they feel like they have to play the seniors ahead of "just called up" sophomores. SR doesn't really have that problem since both QB's are juniors.
The Prep bowl hurts no one it is a fun tradition, albeit a fading one. Look these kids get to play the Friday after Thanksgiving, in a historic stadium and on an NFL field too...I guess if you call that field NFL caliber in November but you get the point.
hasn't hurt LA this year getting the extra games last year. Didn't hurt MC in '12 getting the extra games in '11.
There is nothing but positivity coming out of the Prep Bowl, ALL CCL teams that can play want to play...What team in the state would not want to continue to play if you had the opportunity. On a side note, this years Prep Bowl will not be at Soldier Field, but at Northwestern University.
Some schools like Providence choose not to play but you are correct the rule states only schools that were members of the CCL before a certain time period are eligible (mostly those traditional CCL schools in the city limits and the other charter schools like Loyola, Fenwick,and St. Laurence. I think this goes back to years ago when they had the merger of the ESSC and CCL for football. Some schools like Carmel and Marian Catholic kept playing in the Prep Bowl playoffs and the public schools in their area threw a fit with the IHSA saying not only are these schools recruiting they are now getting extra practices.
True but again each & every school can practice up until the day of the 5,6,7 and 8 A finals.If they chose not to then that is on them
Earlier in the thread, you read that without the Prep Bowl, ALL CPL teams with records of 6-3 or better will qualify for the playoffs, and be allowed to participate in them. Your negative reaction to that was quite visceral.
Now you are asking why we don't get rid of the Prep Bowl. If you don't want ALL CPL teams eligible to qualify and compete in the playoffs, why would you want to do away with the one thing that is keeping that from happening?
Noble/UIC is a school of 864 students that finished the season at 6-3 this year, but the CPL keeps them from being eligible for the playoffs. One of their losses was by a score of 73-0 against Woodstock North, a school of 900 students that finished the year at 4-5. Imagine Noble/UIC against JCA in round one of 5A.
Just for kicks on my day off(my first in 3 weeks!!!) I thought I'd post with All Inner City & Chicago Conference teams eligible who would be in the State Playoffs and who would be knocked out.40 points would be the cutoff at 5-4 with one 5-4 team with 40 points out.In:Schurz,Steinmetz,Mather,Ag School,Orr,South Shore,Washington(Chicago),Marine Military,Kelly,Goode Stem,Carver,Nobel Pritzker,Noble UIC,Noble Golder,Noble Comer,Noble Bulls,Noble Hansberry,Chicago Academy
Also 5-4 teams with enough playoff points would too.You beat me to the punch.Look at the amount of teams knocked out who are small schools.that would change the fact of the classification of many
teams that would be out with all eligible CPS let in the state playoffs:Clinton,West Aurora,Minooka,Peoria Heights,Camp Point Central,Champaign Centennial,Oneida Rowva,Fairfield,Mt.Olive,Hardin Calhoun,Moline,Shepard,Pleasant Plains,Waubonsie Valley,Georgetown Ridge Farm,Tremont,Sullivan,Genoa Kingston
Is the prohibition of the SCC-4 (MCHS, SF, Marm, AC) from the Prep Bowl playoffs "permanent" or for a x-year period? What if Montini (for ex.) had a handful of players from Austin/North Lawndale? I think that would be the only allowance I could see, besides that of Marist or St. Pats (or close-in schools like Naz, ND, Guerin with possible City of Chicago representation).
Not to mention eliminating most of the 5-4 teams statewide that currently make the playoffs,, the above scenario would result in huge changes to 4A, 5A and 6A playoffs and brackets.
As the stat guy for De La Salle, it seems like our kids and coaches are excited to have the season continue. Granted, we missed the state playoffs with a heartbreaking loss to Mac, but this means at least one more game for the kids. And if we're fortunate enough to play at NU, that would be cool. I'm a Wildcats fan and I know I'd be happy as hell to be on the sidelines at Ryan Field.
Totally off-topic, did De La Salle play at Gately before building the field on campus? Back in the day, in terms of physicality/toughness, I always thought De La Salle was maybe the toughest team in the league even though they usually didn't have great talent. I did not relish the idea of a fight breaking out when De La Salle was on the other side. Also thought De La Salle had really cool uniforms when they were just blue and yellow.
De La Salle did play at Gately back in the day. thecurrent stadium on campus was their practice field (which by the way the story goes DLS accused other schools namely Carmel and Rita of having a coach sitting up on the 35th street El platform charting their practices ...that is classic). Also Rice, Leo, deSales with of course Mt. Carmel all called Gately home and Laurence played their home games at Reavis. Other than Loyola and Rita I do not think any CCL school had a stadium on campus until about 20 years ago. I remember one year MC played every single game at Gately with their "road games being De, Rice, deSales, and Leo.
Not sure if we have any guys older than 45 here, but did Leo ever play its games on that classic stadium on 74th and Morgan (or in that vicinity)? I'm guessing if they did, they moved them when the neighborhood became too violent (and no place to park next to the stadium)?? I wish the costs weren't so prohibitive, but I'd love to see more of those old school brick stadiums/bleachers. Especially the ones like "The Pit" where the stands were right on top of the sideline. Though that is almost impossible now because everyone (understandably and smartly) has a track encompassing their football field.
If I remember correctly, when I played against Holy Cross back in the late 80's, the football field ran through the outfield of the baseball field. Is that still the case at Guerin?
Back in the early 90's when I was in HS Leo was still playing home games at Gately but I remember them playing a playoff game at Eckersell stadium which was on 82nd street if I remember correctly....I wonder if that stadium is still there?
Didn't Marist also have the multi-purpose football and baseball stadium? As for De La Salle's, I like ours. I like the uniqueness of it.
Marist used to play on grass and the pretty much straight away center over across to right field was also football field. It is all different now the baseball field is on the other side of the school and they have turf.
74th Morgan is Stagg Stadium.Still there.I recall a Leo guy telling me)just stating what I heard)they got kicked out of Stagg & Gately for being unruly among other things.They then were playing home games at St Laurence when they tore up the locker room after a loss and that was it
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