Why does he like to sit on a lead you have built by playing your game... It amazes me how inept our coach is on offense..
Stans Stall almost gives us a loss.......
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Why does he like to sit on a lead you have built by playing your game... It amazes me how inept our coach is on offense..
Benock made a lazy pass for a turnover, Bost made a poor pass-turnover, Benock missed a wide open 3, South Carolina got some easy buckets in the paint, then you have the Technical and it's a one point game. All the pressure is on Bost to beat the press.
hold on to the ball and couldn't handle the Carolina pressure. We didn't even have a chance to 'stall'.
When stall ball comes into play, our players stop moving actively, thinking "why should I run around, we're not going to shoot anytime soon anyway..."<div>
</div><div>Stans should either abandon stall ball or force his players into actively moving without the ball. It's so obvious when we are stalling--all of the the players just start drifting, setting bad screens, and generally being lazy/apathetic.</div><div>
</div><div>Our coach is below average and most of our players are pretty dumb--not a good combination. But, it could be worse...</div>
</div><div>Stans should either abandon stall ball or force his players into actively moving without the ball. It's so obvious when we are stalling--all of the the players just start drifting, setting bad screens, and generally being lazy/apathetic.</div><div>
</div><div>Our coach is below average and most of our players are pretty dumb--not a good combination. But, it could be worse...</div>
Started around the 8 min mark after the RSS hit two from the line to go up 11. Go back and watch the game...
our offense is pass the ball around the perimeter and jack up a 3. when we have a lead late, we just don't jack one up early in the possession. today's problem was not being able to attack the pressure and get easy baskets. it's not easy when you only have one ball handler on the floor. I don't know why bryant wasn't in there. And when bryant is in there, he doesn't have to play the point. he can play the 2 and still give us more than riley.
Turnovers were the cause of the meltdown. Not only that, but with a 11 point lead and less than 5 minutes to go, you should milk the clock and look for good shots.
Some of you guys don't have a clue about college basketball, the game isn't the same as playing on your play station!
I will say it was pretty foolish for Stans to run on the court with 30 seconds left even thought the ref's missed the timeout.
Some of you guys don't have a clue about college basketball, the game isn't the same as playing on your play station!
I will say it was pretty foolish for Stans to run on the court with 30 seconds left even thought the ref's missed the timeout.
I know it, we all know it, oh so very well. Today, however, was not The Stall. Our players simply could not hold onto the damn ball long enough to get to the point of stalling. We were up 13 with 4:30 minutes left and that lead was cut to 4 in less than a minute. Sometimes, believe it or not, the players are actually to blame. It's kind of like in baseball, when Sam Frost boots an easy ground ball, it is HIS fault, not the coach's. Or when Tyson Lee keeps the ball on the goal line instead of pitching it to a wide-open Anthony Dixon, that is also not the coach's fault. It's just that some/most folks on here feel the need to blame every little thing on our basketball coach when some things are actually out of his control.
right after back to back 3's from Dee and Ravern. They started pressing and we stopped moving the ball. That led to about a 2 and a half minute, 9 point turnaround because we thought we could just dump the ball back and forth in front of the half court line. Also, our tempo deteriorated big time in the second half. We worked the ball well through the first 5 minutes or so of the game, then by the second half, we were at a slow jog. That just about cost us a win.
For a few minutes U thought Stands was Stalling in the first half... He really has no clue........
We press and work for about the first quarter of the game, then after that, all bets are off. We are satisfied and are on autopilot the rest of the game. You cant consistently win (see Auburn and LSU) playing with that mentality... I really don't think we should start burning clock until we have the game wrapped (1:00 min to go if we are up 10-15, no more than 2:00 if we are up 15+). That is just my opinion... We really have no clue how to keep the pressure on other teams the ENTIRE game. You give a team a glimmer of hope, they come back with avengeanceand when you give up that much momentum, very rarely can you fully get it back.
I'm not sure that has it wrapped up either. No lead is ever safe with us, EVER. I'm still not sure South Carolina is not going to win.
...wasn't nearly as big of a factor as his completely retarded technical foul. I mean, junior high coaches know better than that.
We stalled. We madeerrant passes on some possessions, but I remember 2 distinct possessions where we did NOTHING but dribble the ball at the point just in front of the half-court line until 8 seconds left on the shot clock then start trying to find something. Both times we missed shots. One possession came at just under 6:00 on the clock, the other at about 4:45 on the game clock. If we were getting beat on the press, I would admit that, but I remember 2 distinct possessions where we stalled. Plain and simple. <div>
</div><div>*EDIT* Yes, both those possessions came after struggling to get up the floor on the press, but after they set defensively, we didn't motion until about 8 seconds to go on the shot clock. That's what I meant by stall. </div>
</div><div>*EDIT* Yes, both those possessions came after struggling to get up the floor on the press, but after they set defensively, we didn't motion until about 8 seconds to go on the shot clock. That's what I meant by stall. </div>
between struggling against the press and stalling our offense. BOTH happened. I never once said we didn't struggle against the press. You said we struggled against the press, I said yes we did. We also stalled our offense. That is what I was talking about. Apples to oranges.
barely get it up the floor and then go straight into lights out offense man. That was all the press. Now if you want to go after Stans for us not handling the press well then that might be entirely legit. But to say we were stalling because of TWO trips up the floor where we almost DIDN'T get it up the the floor then that is just asinine.
I just gave credibility to yours and you just shat all over it. Let me say this. I have NEVER played on a basketball team that played offense while trying to beat a press. But after you get up the floor (by beating the press), generally, you set as fast as you can and start working offense. We didn't do that. We stood around, made a few passes, waited, then started working offense with about 10-8 seconds to go on the shot clock. It CAN'T take you 25-27 seconds to get up the floor because you only have 10 seconds to make it past half court (which is when they let off the press and set up defense). That is what I am talking about. The remaining 15 seconds we stood dribbling the ball.
and 2 and a half of those minutes were turning the ball over (whether it was because of the press, stupid inbounds, bad offense, or Riley Benock being trapped and pushed out of bounds) and giving up 9 unanswered points. I was giving two examples of it happening because I distinctly remember both possessions. I never once said we didn't struggle against the press, but if you are up 11 with 6 minutes to go, most coaches would do everything they could to put pressure on the defense and try to wear them down and make baskets to take control of the game, not settle down and run out clock.
This team this year has had trouble executing it. If you stall and then don't even get a shot or to the foul line your in trouble.
If you have a 10 point lead with 5 minutes to go you have a good (not guaranteeded) chance of winning with the "stall". You may win by one, but it will be a win. Basketball is still a clock game.
This is straight out of Hank Iba and Dean Smith's philosophy.
Having a short bench forces us to do it also.
Turning it over before you run off hardly any time almost cost them today. It did at Auburn.
If you have a 10 point lead with 5 minutes to go you have a good (not guaranteeded) chance of winning with the "stall". You may win by one, but it will be a win. Basketball is still a clock game.
This is straight out of Hank Iba and Dean Smith's philosophy.
Having a short bench forces us to do it also.
Turning it over before you run off hardly any time almost cost them today. It did at Auburn.