Stansbury Poll

GABully24

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I am just curious.

If Greg Byrne were to give this board complete power to decide Stans' future employment, what would the outcome be.
 

GABully24

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Nov 11, 2008
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I am just curious.

If Greg Byrne were to give this board complete power to decide Stans' future employment, what would the outcome be.
 

DawgatAuburn

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Apr 25, 2006
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Stansbury would be back. Kirby and Cunningham would not, and at least one of their replacements would be a seasoned basketball mind. The other could more of a recruiter type, but would need to have shown a particular acumen for one end of the floor that fits within what Rick wants to run. In other words, he would have to be an expert in motion offense or zone defense.
 

DowntownDawg

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May 28, 2007
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...Rick has to let the basketball mind coach em up in practice and draw up plays to run late in games.
 

8dog

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Feb 23, 2008
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when Z, gholar, Patterson, Iggy, Bower,etc. were here.

My opinion is that these guys just have different body types and frames. Ravern and jarvis are only going to get so big.
 

Sutterkane

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Jan 23, 2007
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when I rewatched it the other day. Bowers and Vincent were simply jacked compared to our guys today.
 

Dental Dawg

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Dec 6, 2008
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I don't see other teams with Ethiopians starting for them. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough. I can understand freshmen being skinny, but by the time they graduate, they should be beastly.
 

8dog

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some guys you just aren't going to be able put weight on. Hell, Bost is ripped, but you can't pour water on him and make him grow taller.

Its like saying the Falcons' strength coach is bad b/c jerious's legs haven't gotten bigger.

No one is bitching about Osby, Bailey or Augustus's size and strength. Its not like they are under a different coach.
 

Coach34

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Jul 20, 2012
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however, if this year's massive underachieving ends in missing the Tourney and we miss it aGAIN next year- happy trails...

2 NCAA's in 6 seasons isnt good enough, especially as ****** as the SEC has been
 

patdog

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May 28, 2007
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Coach34 said:
2 NCAA's in 6 seasons isnt good enough
and 3 years before he took us to the Final Four. Good thing this board wasn't around in 1993-1994. You would have been unbearable. I can hear you now. "Williams deserves credit for turning the program around but he can't win in the postseason. He's taken us as far as he can take us. Only 1 NCAA tournamnet in the last 4 years, and in 2 of those years he didn't even make the NIT. That's just not good enough." etc. etc.
 

DowntownDawg

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...other people will stop replying to the question.

You learn that on the first day in Message Boards 101.
 

Coach34

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took over. You of all people know what we were like the 20 years before Williams and since. Yes, Standsbury is a big part of that. But it doesn't exclude him from it.

2 appearances in 6 years, with one of those only coming because of winning the SEC Tourney (lucky run in March as the Sheep say) in a very down SEC West, with one of the worst SOS's in the SEC every season- That's not a program on the rise.
 

Dawgbreeze

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Jun 11, 2007
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Now, the poll as of this moment says to keep him. If you weren't so obsessed with him, the board would be better. But we all know the drill, the moment we lose a game, you go on a tirade with all your ******** and "your sheep" fall in line. It doesn't make a difference if you win a tourney to get in or do it in the regular season, it still counts. Hell, you would have fired Jim Boehime at Syracuse and numerous others under your criteria. I hope we win the damn SEC tourney again just to shut your babbling *** up.
 

gtowndawg

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Jan 23, 2007
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that is someone that will work these guys into a team during the off season. The football team talks about how they came together in the off season.

That's one thing we just seem to miss now.
 

Coach34

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Jul 20, 2012
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Can't be fired right? More and more people are getting sick of underachieving...and it's way more than 5%
 

Msudawg985

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Apr 7, 2009
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Iget tired of underachieving. I'm tired of our fans also happy with just a Western Division title and an occasional SEC Tournament title, with a one and done in the TOURNAMENT
 

dawgstudent

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Apr 15, 2003
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he gets one more year. It's Stansbury's choice if he wants to shake up the staff this year.
 

seshomoru

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Apr 24, 2006
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DawgatAuburn said:
Stansbury would be back. Kirby and Cunningham would not, and at least one of their replacements would be a seasoned basketball mind. The other could more of a recruiter type, but would need to have shown a particular acumen for one end of the floor that fits within what Rick wants to run. In other words, he would have to be an expert in motion offense or zone defense.
We're stale. Stansbury is perfect for Starkville. Pretty decent recruiter, can develop players (just look at the progression of guys like Varnado, Z, Bowers, Rhodes, Frazier, and yes even Jamont), he's won a lot of games, he's respected and isn't going to embarrass us by getting wasted and causing international incidents, and he absolutely loves where he is.

Kirby and Cunningham are sucking at the teet, content where they are. They should have some motivation to be like Stansbury, not simply work with the guy. I've said it before, but some turnover in coaching staffs, no matter what the sport, is a good thing. First of all, it keeps things fresh and dynamic. Second of all, it means you are hiring assistants that want to become head coaches. Those are the guys that make the best assistants.
 

Tds & Beer

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Jan 26, 2010
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I would demote Stansbury to assistant coach and recruiting coordinator. I would hire a young, fiery x's and o's guy from a smaller conference. I would replace the other assistants as well.
 

seshomoru

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Apr 24, 2006
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lars larson said:
I would demote Stansbury to assistant coach and recruiting coordinator. I would hire a young, fiery x's and o's guy from a smaller conference. I would replace the other assistants as well.
I STILL have to know if you really think this is an option.
 

Tds & Beer

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Jan 26, 2010
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I wish I could edit video and put a video together of the Auburn game. It would consist of short clips of us standing around looking at each other and it would last approximately 20 minutes. I've been paying a lot of attention to our offense versus the offense of good teams. The difference is that there is a purpose in what they run. It is to spring a certain player on a certain matchup or get to a certain spot against a certain defense. Also, once there has been a pass or two, the offense keeps going. It's a cycle. Ours, however, usually starts with a high screen and a kickout. After that, who knows. We have two steps, hoping that it springs someone, and that's it. It's pathetic. I don't know if we can do better than stansbury but he is absolutely pathetic on that side of the ball. Did you see against Auburn when we had the ball and a timeout, none of the starters were even listening to him. Varnado was ten yards away lookin up in the stands. Is that their fault? I bet if there were some useful information in there, he'd be listening.
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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May 22, 2006
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there is always a "young, fiery coach" out there that is the answer to every problem. Kind of like the qb on the bench. Except, of course, the qb on the bench is an actual person.
 

paindonthurt_

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Jun 27, 2009
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of his own success. But he has definitely shown over the last 12 years that he can under achieve. He is yet to show that he can over achieve.
 

whatever.sixpack

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Jun 27, 2008
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Under or overachieving is all part of perception. Having the 11th largest budget in the league and consistently being the 4th most winningest team is not underachieving. What Arkansas is doing every year is underachieving.

You said yourself that Stans built these expectations for himself, so he had to overachieve to raise the expectations in the first place. I'd call winning the SEC tourney last year w/ the talent we had vastly overachieving, which is why we have unrealistic expectations for this year, we don't have NBA players
 

paindonthurt_

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I have no idea what Rider's, Richmonds, WKUs, Bamas, etc. budgets are. We should have beaten them all.

We constantly lose a large amount of games we shouldn't. We rarely win games we shouldnt. The budget doesn't mean anything when you have 5 guys on the court who are better than the other 5 guys. And regardless of what some say, we do have a little depth.