Stansbury's record in the past 20 SEC Regular Season games...

dawgstudent

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16-4.

I know you can skew numbers to your liking but that is pretty impressive.
 

dawgstudent

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16-4.

I know you can skew numbers to your liking but that is pretty impressive.
 

hatfieldms

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Stansbury had nothing to do with those 16 wins, he was only responsible for the 4 losses
 

Ol Blue.sixpack

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Coach34 said:
he truly is SEC Western Division basketball
Which is more than we can say for John Brady and Mark Gottfried, Andy Kennedy, and Jeff Lebo after this year.

BTW, Peaches, did you ever figure out who those other 7 teams were in the Elite 8 with Bama?
 

DowntownDawg

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...that's really pretty amazing.

I, like you, have been frustrated with him over the last few years, but I really have to give him his props over the last few games. This team seems to be gelling, and there seem to be very few ego issues. He has not let the Augustus issue hurt us. He has also adjusted his preferred style (half court, get the ball down low, outrebound and defend) to what we have. The way this team plays together reminds me of the Zimmerman/Bowers era. I was hoping to see us return to that.
 

Coach34

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the way he has transcended Western Division basketball will amount into a FF appearance like Brady has.

Did you find out who won the SWAC in 2003?
 

BewareOfMSUDawg

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Stans talked about adjusting his team's style in one of his interviews, saying something to the effect of sacrificing one aspect of the game (rebounding) in order to play a style that fits better with this team (playing smaller lineups). That's not to say anyone's happy about our struggling to rebound, but that we're doing what we need to right now to give us the best chance to win.

The best thing about this is that it shows Stans is willing to change the way he coaches in order to win. That is very encouraging for the future, and maybe things won't get stale with this program like I was afraid that it was going to.

It also helps that Stans has a guy like Bost who he now knows that he can trust with running this offense.</p>
 

Ol Blue.sixpack

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Coach34 said:
the way he has transcended Western Division basketball will amount into a FF appearance like Brady has.

Did you find out who won the SWAC in 2003?
I didn't look. Couldn't see how that was relevant, especially after HD6 reminded us how they weren't in a BCS basketball conference.
 

Ol Blue.sixpack

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bbbut he's been to the Elite 8. And Brady's been to a Final Four. So has Richard Williams.

And what's the best any of that trio could parlay those accomplishments into? Jonesboro.

Edited to add: Should have been a reply to 99jc. Thanks yuku.
 

Ol Blue.sixpack

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BewareOfMSUDawg said:
Stans talked about adjusting his team's style in one of his interviews, saying something to the effect of sacrificing one aspect of the game (rebounding) in order to play a style that fits better with this team (playing smaller lineups). That's not to say anyone's happy about our struggling to rebound, but that we're doing what we need to right now to give us the best chance to win.

The best thing about this is that it shows Stans is willing to change the way he coaches in order to win. That is very encouraging for the future, and maybe things won't get stale with this program like I was afraid that it was going to.

It also helps that Stans has a guy like Bost who he now knows that he can trust with running this offense.
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How long will it be before Peaches starts a barrage of posts about how lucky Stansbury is to have Dee Bost fall in his lap?
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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...what SEC coach has a better record than 16-4 over the last 20 (SEC regular season) games?

I'm going to hazzard a guess & say none does.
 

SolidDog

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I know this is opening a can of worms but I was interested as well.

Pearl : 17-3
Stansbury : 16-4
Gillispie : 15-5
Donovan : 12-8
Stallings : 11-9
Pelphrey : 10-10
Kennedy : 9-11
Gottfried : 6-14
Lebo : 5-15
 

Coach34

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"bbbut he's been to the Elite 8. And Brady's been to a Final Four. So has Richard Williams"

hopefully one day all these West wins will allow Ricky to coach in an important game like those guys did
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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... I forgot the unhinged car salesman sporting the florescent orange jacket has had some impressive regular season winning streaks lately.
 

Ol Blue.sixpack

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Coach34 said:
"bbbut he's been to the Elite 8. And Brady's been to a Final Four. So has Richard Williams"

hopefully one day all these West wins will allow Ricky to coach in an important game like those guys did

Coach Stansbury is in a much better position to make a run to the Sweet 16 than the Peach's Holy Trinity of College Basketball Coaches. More importantly, I hope that he can maintain the level of consistency that he has brought to the MSU program, which should keep him out of the unemployment line, a place that the Peach's Holy Trinity of College Basketball Coaches is all too familiar with - or will be soon.
 

Coach34

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(and from what we hear about you, one can only imagine) but he has yet to achieve what those coaches have- coach is one of the sports most important basketball games.
 

Ol Blue.sixpack

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(and from what we hear about you, one can only imagine) but he has yet to achieve what those coaches have- coach is one of the sports most important basketball games.

He's also yet to achieve another feat these three stooges have - a place in the unemployment line.
 

Hanmudog

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If Stansbury had won against Memphis last season, we would have been in the Sweet 16. One more game. Do you seriously believe that a coach going one game farther in the NCAA tournament trumps annually winning 20 games and the SEC West on a consistent basis? Imagine how bad it would suck to be an ALabama or LSU fan last year. We have not had to endure one of those years in quite a while.
 
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...have to be surprised with this 3-0 SEC start (that includes myself). Here's hoping the gang remembers it's a marathon and not a sprint.

Edited for poor grammar (yet again....*sigh*)
 

ScoobaDawg

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He is 6-3 on SEC ROAD GAMES during that same period (I'm 6-2 personally on that stretch when I attend)
 

ExtremeDog

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This is a Gene statement if there ever were one. Who cares about the last 20 games?
 

dawgstudent

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I am the first to say that his NCAA performance is horrible but at the same time, to be 16-4 over your last 20 SEC games is rather surprising. Your extreme hatred of Stansbury blinds you for any of the good that he has done.

And I will say I will be first in line to say he should be gone if we don't make the tourney the next couple of years.
 

Coach34

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he hasnt done a decent job as coach. But even Meo and BrianTheDawg would have to admit he wouldnt be their 1st choice to coach a team in a big game. At some point we will have to take a chance and hire someone else as our coach.

As long as Ricky is our coach, its going to be solid SEC success and very little else
 

josebrown

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Maybe he needs to live up to the great recruiter line a little better. Seems to me that Brady, Gottfried, Donovan, anyone at UK, and Pearl have had a few more drafted players on their rosters than Stans. Maybe the coaching inadequacies would get him further in the tournament if he had a little better talent to work with. Memphis sure had a nice roster of draftees last year, and we did well in losing with both of our almost draftable talent.

Personally, I am very pleased with the job Stans has done assuming the transfer bug has almost run its course if not finished.

On a side note I spoke with Pelphrey last night in Jackson and found out that he really seems to be a Stans fan. He gave Stans much credit to the teams current success. In mind the *****-slapping his team has been going through that we started he gave much unwarranted praise of Stans and Bost.
 

Coach34

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"Maybe he needs to live up to the great recruiter line a little better. Seems to me that Brady, Gottfried, Donovan, anyone at UK, and Pearl have had a few more drafted players on their rosters than Stans."

Maybe if we had Renaldo Balkman instead of Rhodes we would have a Sweet 16 huh? Balkman was so much better than Rhodes in college huh?
Or how bout Ronnie Brewer instead of Jamont? Surely that would have been the difference?
Maybe David Lee of Fla should have been here instead of our AA Lawrence Roberts? Lee was drafted higher.

Fact is we have had lots of All-SEC players- which means best players in the conference- yet we are 0-4 in the 2nd round of the NCAA's
 

8dog

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he can't do out of conference: winning games he should for the most part. Of those 16 wins, I count 2 over NCAA tournament teams.

For that, I give him great credit. I also give him credit for this recent (and hopefully, lasting) turnaround.
 

BlindDawg

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Please stop using the Renaldo Balkman argument. Anyone that knows anything about the NBA knows that if it weren't for one of the worst GM's in the history of the league, Balkman would have never sniffed the first round and maybe not even the second round. No other GM had him higher than a mid 2nd round pick.
 

8dog

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Hell, Cal State Fullerton has someone projected to go in the draft this year. Does that mean they have more talent than us?

Who would you rather have had on your team Darryl Wilson or Moochie Norris? Scotty Thurman or Rajon Rondo? Timmy Bowers or Mo Williams? Lawrence Roberts or Anthony Randolph? Charles Rhodes or Walter Sharpe? Chris Lofton or Alonzo Gee?

Charlotte had someone projected to go in the draft not long ago..does that mean they have more talent than us?

Its a ridiculous argument.
 

josebrown

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Coach34 said:
Fact is we have had lots of All-SEC players- which means best players in the conference- yet we are 0-4 in the 2nd round of the NCAA's

And he is 4-1 in first round games, right. I am satisfied with what Stans has done as long as it keeps happening. If it keeps happening I actually do think Stans can improve on that 0-4. To play Memphis and Duke as well as we did without the talent they had goes overlooked in your criticism.

Continuing to ride Stans for his 0-4 is fine, but he will have a much better chance of improving on that record when he actually pulls a few of those damn NBA players to campus. And he may have a couple here now. He has plenty overseas, but so far none that have played much in the States outside of some of the smaller professional leagues. Afterall most, not all, but most that reach that echelon of coaching dominance you need here have done it with a little more talent.

I am just glad that your new-found stroking of Stans lately has been done with the obligatory never gonna make it to the top till Ricky is gone suggestions or else I would have to join the club and call you peaches.
 

BlindDawg

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I don't disagree. I just get tired of coach throwing out Balkman everytime this argument comes up. As you said, there are other good examples. My problem is he keeps using the worst example to back up his point. Use Patrick Mills (St. Mary's PG) or Jameer Nelson or someone like that, not someone who had no business being drafted at all let alone in the first round.
 

8dog

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just one portion of the argument that NBA/Draft does not necessarily define college talent is that the drafters often make mistakes. But I do see your point.