Starmount at West Wilkes

KW2346

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Could be an upset....with West Wilkes good run defense and starmounts lousy play calling you never know. West Wilkes offense is pretty lousy though. I see starmount winning around 14 to 0
 
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EWCards

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West is big up front. They are solid team but Starmount will be too much for them. As far as play calling i heard a RUMOR about the OC at Starmount, is he still there Deana?

Either way Starmount by 20
 

justathought

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So correct me if I'm wrong, if they OC is no longer there, the next will be the 3rd play-caller in last two seasons at Starmount?
 

ncfootball_17

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Starmount fired their OC mid-season?
Kind of crazy if true. If the HC has an issue with play calling then let him take it over for a game or let someone else have that responsibility. I would think there must be something else besides just that. They are 5-1 with the only loss coming to MA, who isn't a terrible team.
 

Truthteller2025

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That OC was not improving with the offense. Everyone in the stands could see it and starmount is too good of a team to not have an offense come playoff time. Should be interesting to see what starmount does from here on out.
 
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MA STUD

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I would have to with student body holding up signs and chanting fire him and no one stopping it. He wasnt given support either by his Head Coach so he said fine you do it and I do not blame him. That is not a way to treat a Coach who gives time away from his family and tries his best whether he is successful or not. Just my opinion.
 
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Ball704336

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As truth said he was basically forced to resign based on what I've heard. The majority of the community has been very upset at the play calling from the very first game. Too much talent on the team for them to not be able to score. The defense has been bailing out the offense. That will only get them so far especially if they make it to play teams like Murphy and Corvian.

Last year's OC wasn't from the area and for whatever reason wasn't able to come back this year. I feel like he ended up being a very good OC by the end of the year once he learned high school football(he was an arena league coach). He was also willing to listen to the community and try to improve each game. That says a lot.

I have a feeling I know whose offense they're gonna run.
 
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radioguy16

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As truth said he was basically forced to resign based on what I've heard. The majority of the community has been very upset at the play calling from the very first game. Too much talent on the team for them to not be able to score. The defense has been bailing out the offense. That will only get them so far especially if they make it to play teams like Murphy and Corvian.

Last year's OC wasn't from the area and for whatever reason wasn't able to come back this year. I feel like he ended up being a very good OC by the end of the year once he learned high school football(he was an arena league coach). He was also willing to listen to the community and try to improve each game. That says a lot.

I have a feeling I know whose offense they're gonna run.
Id say go back to the previous head coach was what I was told the O would look more like now.
 
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Sportsnut17

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Kind of crazy if true. If the HC has an issue with play calling then let him take it over for a game or let someone else have that responsibility. I would think there must be something else besides just that. They are 5-1 with the only loss coming to MA, who isn't a terrible team.
Maybe not a problem at Starmount, but most small schools have difficulty getting staff because of pay restrictions. I am not talking about daddy’s roaming the sideline calling themselves coaches.
 
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Sportsnut17

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As truth said he was basically forced to resign based on what I've heard. The majority of the community has been very upset at the play calling from the very first game. Too much talent on the team for them to not be able to score. The defense has been bailing out the offense. That will only get them so far especially if they make it to play teams like Murphy and Corvian.

Last year's OC wasn't from the area and for whatever reason wasn't able to come back this year. I feel like he ended up being a very good OC by the end of the year once he learned high school football(he was an arena league coach). He was also willing to listen to the community and try to improve each game. That says a lot.

I have a feeling I know whose offense they're gonna run.
When did the community start dictating coaches ?
 

80prepster

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I have attended 5 of Starmount’s 6 games thus far, and have yet to see any signs or hear any chants from the students, or the fans? Unless you’re on the Ram sideline and know what is being discussed by the staff, I’m not going to trust your opinion.
 
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Truthteller2025

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If you look at the games and look at the stats there is a huge gap between offense stats and defense stats. With the same kids going both ways. Play calling and scheme was the issue with the OC. If Starmount gets an offense rolling you wont see them have any problems until they meet one of those big teams in the 3rd or 4th round. Looking at who they have left after this week they should be able to coast to the playoffs with a conference championship.
 
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KW2346

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Won't know if offense will look any better till Nov 21st at earliest when they play someone with a pulse again. Unless they just come out and ball out Friday vs very good run defense in WW
 

tomwll7!

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When the OC had 25+ years of experience as a head coach and has lead many teams to playoff games and winning over 100 games in his career while also turning a program around such as North Wilkes going from 0 wins to 6-8 a year and conference championship during his time. I’d say there’s more of an internal issue with the coaching staff more than the OC being the problem. I wouldn’t say anything if you don’t know the facts behind it!
 

Deacs&Rams

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When the OC had 25+ years of experience as a head coach and has lead many teams to playoff games and winning over 100 games in his career while also turning a program around such as North Wilkes going from 0 wins to 6-8 a year and conference championship during his time. I’d say there’s more of an internal issue with the coaching staff more than the OC being the problem. I wouldn’t say anything if you don’t know the facts behind it!
So, you wouldn't say it has anything to do with the one glaring weakness of the team and that weakness being his responsibility?

Starmount has played two really good teams. Against those teams they have scored 6 points and 7 points. I won't pretend to know what was said behind closed doors or who said it. It doesn't change the fact that the offense is a real liability, though.
 

EWCards

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No dog in this fight but your averaging 25pts a game and currently hold a 5-1 record along with the #1 seed for the west.

Im not sure how many points you expect to score against those two really good teams. If you wanted to score a lot then are they actually good teams?
 

80prepster

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So, you wouldn't say it has anything to do with the one glaring weakness of the team and that weakness being his responsibility?

Starmount has played two really good teams. Against those teams they have scored 6 points and 7 points. I won't pretend to know what was said behind closed doors or who said it. It doesn't change the fact that the offense is a real liability, though.

You about hit the nail on the head. No one is discounting his success coaching, or his true care for the kids, and having an ability to mesh your talents with the rest of the staff. It took the defense to turn the ballgame around and give the right opportunity to score the only points put on the board against East Wilkes. And it took the defense again to hold the opponent in order for the Rams to pull out a win, against a really talented Cardinal group! But it takes all elements of the game, least not being special teams, and the right mix of play calling, for teams that play together on the same page, and that includes the staff that have the same vision…. Being a Starmount alum, the OC is one of our own, and to him all the best going forward.
 
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Deacs&Rams

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No dog in this fight but your averaging 25pts a game and currently hold a 5-1 record along with the #1 seed for the west.

Im not sure how many points you expect to score against those two really good teams. If you wanted to score a lot then are they actually good teams?
Even against Alleghany they only had 16 in regulation. That is less than 10 points per game vs teams with a pulse.

Nobody expected them to put up 40 against MA, but we've learned that this MA team isn't as good as the past few years. They weren't expected to put up 40 on EW, but 7 just isn't going to get it done.

No hard feelings toward him like 80 said. Sometimes things just don't fit for whatever reason.
 

Ball704336

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I agree with the posts above. It's definitely nothing personal towards the OC. He's one of our own, and we appreciate everything that he put into the program. Sometimes things just don't work out for whatever reason. I wish him the best.
 

tomwll7!

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Even against Alleghany they only had 16 in regulation. That is less than 10 points per game vs teams with a pulse.

Nobody expected them to put up 40 against MA, but we've learned that this MA team isn't as good as the past few years. They weren't expected to put up 40 on EW, but 7 just isn't going to get it done.

No hard feelings toward him like 80 said. Sometimes things just don't fit for whatever reason.
I’m pretty sure in that same game the offense was barely on the field because the defense couldn’t get a stop. If it wasn’t for the offense driving down the field and scoring to put it into overtime then starmount would currently be 4-2
 
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tomwll7!

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So, you wouldn't say it has anything to do with the one glaring weakness of the team and that weakness being his responsibility?

Starmount has played two really good teams. Against those teams they have scored 6 points and 7 points. I won't pretend to know what was said behind closed doors or who said it. It doesn't change the fact that the offense is a real liability, though.
I think there’s more to the story than people probably know that led to the offense not being as good. The OC had proved himself at other schools scoring 25-40 points a game. While also going to starmount and scoring 40 with a north Wilkes team. I think maybe he’s an old school coach and in today’s world kids are soft. They want it their way and some of these younger coaches have a negative influence and create a toxic environment within the coaching staff that probably led to him to resign. I don’t blame him and that’s why starmount will most likely make a 2nd or 3rd round exit in the playoffs
 
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Truthteller2025

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I think there’s more to the story than people probably know that led to the offense not being as good. The OC had proved himself at other schools scoring 25-40 points a game. While also going to starmount and scoring 40 with a north Wilkes team. I think maybe he’s an old school coach and in today’s world kids are soft. They want it their way and some of these younger coaches have a negative influence and create a toxic environment within the coaching staff that probably led to him to resign. I don’t blame him and that’s why starmount will most likely make a 2nd or 3rd round exit in the playoffs
You must not know the head coach then, because soft is the last thing that he will allow on his team. The moral of the story was that the OC was not a good fit for Starmount for whatever that reason might be. What are score predictions for tonight?
 

Deacs&Rams

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I’m pretty sure in that same game the offense was barely on the field because the defense couldn’t get a stop. If it wasn’t for the offense driving down the field and scoring to put it into overtime then starmount would currently be 4-2
They held them to 16 points also. Not sure why you think they couldn't get a stop. Everyone with eyeballs thinks Starmount has one of the best defenses in the state. Everyone with eyeballs also thinks the offense needs some work.
 
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Deacs&Rams

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You must not know the head coach then, because soft is the last thing that he will allow on his team. The moral of the story was that the OC was not a good fit for Starmount for whatever that reason might be. What are score predictions for tonight?
This. A soft program is what led Lloyd and now Pardue to be the head coach. It didn't take them long to turn it around either.
 

tomwll7!

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This. A soft program is what led Lloyd and now Pardue to be the head coach. It didn't take them long to turn it around either.
Well since you’re so confident in your program please let me know what they’ve accomplished in the last 20 years. I didn’t know 2nd and 3rd round exits were the standard now while also not even winning conference. Stop living in the B.W. days man give it up.
 

Deacs&Rams

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Well since you’re so confident in your program please let me know what they’ve accomplished in the last 20 years. I didn’t know 2nd and 3rd round exits were the standard now while also not even winning conference. Stop living in the B.W. days man give it up.
This doesn't make any sense. The whole point is that for the last decade they had gone in the toilet and got soft. They have double digit wins in back to back seasons and can actually compete with top notch teams like MA. They are trying to revive the program and start beating them like they did in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s.
 

Deacs&Rams

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Had to take MA out of the conference to make the program feel seen again
This might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. MA is a bigger school and got moved to a bigger classification. Starmount has no say so in that. They still schedule each other anyway. Obviously ain't neither one of them scared of the other.
 

Deana_King

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After 2014 when we won the conference and played for a state championship, the program went through a very rough period until 2023. In 2.5 years, the Rams are 26-5 with the only teams beating them are Mount Airy (4) and Mountain Heritage (1).
 

80prepster

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This might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. MA is a bigger school and got moved to a bigger classification. Starmount has no say so in that. They still schedule each other anyway. Obviously ain't neither one of them scared of the other.

Don’t know if it’s stupidity, or downright disrespect. But it’s par for the course from a MA faithful. Arrogance and/or disrespect for the opponent. Bottom line, the Rams have had a fair of satisfying wins over the Bears over the years, and going back to the B W Holt/Jerry Hollingsworth tenure at both programs. But now the Mayberrians have to play up with bigger dogs…..where they may win or not win? The reign has ended.
 

Truthteller2025

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After 2014 when we won the conference and played for a state championship, the program went through a very rough period until 2023. In 2.5 years, the Rams are 26-5 with the only teams beating them are Mount Airy (4) and Mountain Heritage (1).
2018 they went to the final 4 Deana.
 

tomwll7!

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Congrats on your 26-5 record. Playing the school of blind teams in 1A through the years each week though doesn’t make you good. Go play good teams….. oh wait you did and look what happened.
 

tomwll7!

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Congrats on your 26-5 record. Playing the school of blind teams in 1A through the years each week though doesn’t make you good. Go play good teams….. oh wait you did and look what happened.
Stop living in the golden years. Murphy will steamroll starmount if starmount can even get past Allegheny or east wilkes again
 

Deacs&Rams

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Congrats on your 26-5 record. Playing the school of blind teams in 1A through the years each week though doesn’t make you good. Go play good teams….. oh wait you did and look what happened.
Again, that's kind of the point. When you suck against good teams you find new coaches. That's what they did. Thanks for agreeing with me.