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Your 2016 state champions Sussex Tigers from the Tri Rivers District will defeat Riverhead 18 to 12
I'm pushing it with the score but Sussex has the easiest road to the title riverhead by the time they play Essex, Franklin, and Galax the are going to be beat up three tough teams in a row and Sussex defense is mind boggling just smothering Sussex wont see any real competition until GW come thru route 40 but they wont stand a chance out there will be in attendance for this one though Sussex is faster than and bigger than the 2012 franklin team that GW beat If riverhead had been the #1 seed id probably be crowning them but they have an uphill battle against them.
 
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Sussex is definitely one of the favorites and rightfully so but I wouldn't sleep on Altavista who is a potential 3rd round matchup or even Lunenburg. Both have solid teams and are capable of going to Sussex and winning. Also it's definitely no guarantee that they'd play GW in the semis as GW will more than likely have to beat Hurley or PM just to get there. Looking at the matchups I honestly can't say who I'd pick right now. Which to me is a good thing because it means it should be a wild and fun playoffs. Who knows who may get hot at the right time and have it all click. Just looking at some of the potential 2nd round matchups like Riverheads/Essex, Hurley/PM, CB/Franklin or CC and Altavista/Lunenburg they all look like great matchups and that's just the 2nd round. I honestly could see 4 or 5 teams from the East making the final four and about that many in the West as well. In years past that hasn't been the case. Definitely will be a fun 5 weeks ahead and whomever is standing tall in Salem will have earned it!!
 
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Sussex is definitely one of the favorites and rightfully so but I wouldn't sleep on Altavista who is a potential 3rd round matchup or even Lunenburg. Both have solid teams and are capable of going to Sussex and winning. Also it's definitely no guarantee that they'd play GW in the semis as GW will more than likely have to beat Hurley or PM just to get there. Looking at the matchups I honestly can't say who I'd pick right now. Which to me is a good thing because it means it should be a wild and fun playoffs. Who knows who may get hot at the right time and have it all click. Just looking at some of the potential 2nd round matchups like Riverheads/Essex, Hurley/PM, CB/Franklin or CC and Altavista/Lunenburg they all look like great matchups and that's just the 2nd round. I honestly could see 4 or 5 teams from the East making the final four and about that many in the West as well. In years past that hasn't been the case. Definitely will be a fun 5 weeks ahead and whomever is standing tall in Salem will have earned it!!

Hurley will probably beat PM at home then GW will beat the winner at home I don't see anybody from the west beating Galax or GW at there home fields. AltaVista and Lunenburg are stellar teams the same goes for Essex franklin and colonial beach but they are not on the level of Sussex or riverhead these two teams are in a league of their own this year it will have to take for them to have a bad game and their opponent to play they best game of their lives for these two teams to be upset I mean a flawless game. Being that the road to the title game goes through Sussex I got to give it to them if Sussex had to travel it would be a different story but riverhead is the best road team to head out west they travel well so they will be ok
 

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Definitely will be interesting. Just curious have you seen any of the other teams play besides Franklin and Sussex? There is a lot of talent out there. I know it's obviously not the same as seeing in person but I've seen video on every team in the East and out West have seen Galax, GW, Hurley, PM, and Fort to this point. Yes I totally agree that Sussex and Riverheads both are outstanding teams and if it was those 2 in the final I wouldn't be surprised but I definitely wouldn't say they're in a league of their own.
 

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One of those big D lineman (the 400+ one) quit the day of game 4 against 5A Deep Run. Don't know his reason why, but we kept it moving. Essex was struggling on offense during the non district portion of the schedule with a new O line, QB and RB. Our D kept us in games with the likes of 2A Goochland (10-0) until 2 pick 6'ers in the early and late 4thQ (14-0 final). We played 4A King George (#7 seed in playoffs) close. It was just 7-0 KG with less than 3min in the 4th. A KG scoring drive and a pick 6 as time ran out made it 20-0 KG. With 3A James Monroe (#2 seed in playoffs) we were stating to move the ball to make it a 1 score game and turnovers kicked in. So, we have been tested and played with some pretty good upper division programs with a new O line, Freshman RB moved to QB his sophomore year, no serious RB to replace the one moved to QB. Since then, the coaches have moved people around and found a way to put points on the board. To go back the the scrimmage part of the year, Essex and Sussex scrimmaged one another to a 0-0 tie. This was back when Essex didn't have much of an offense to match the defense. Although it was a scrimmage, both teams went at it HARD!!! Yes, I know it was a scrimmage and it was weeks ago. Just saying we can move the ball and score now compared to back then.
 
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One of those big D lineman (the 400+ one) quit the day of game 4 against 5A Deep Run. Don't know his reason why, but we kept it moving. Essex was struggling on offense during the non district portion of the schedule with a new O line, QB and RB. Our D kept us in games with the likes of 2A Goochland (10-0) until 2 pick 6'ers in the early and late 4thQ (14-0 final). We played 4A King George (#7 seed in playoffs) close. It was just 7-0 KG with less than 3min in the 4th. A KG scoring drive and a pick 6 as time ran out made it 20-0 KG. With 3A James Monroe (#2 seed in playoffs) we were stating to move the ball to make it a 1 score game and turnovers kicked in. So, we have been tested and played with some pretty good upper division programs with a new O line, Freshman RB moved to QB his sophomore year, no serious RB to replace the one moved to QB. Since then, the coaches have moved people around and found a way to put points on the board. To go back the the scrimmage part of the year, Essex and Sussex scrimmaged one another to a 0-0 tie. This was back when Essex didn't have much of an offense to match the defense. Although it was a scrimmage, both teams went at it HARD!!! Yes, I know it was a scrimmage and it was weeks ago. Just saying we can move the ball and score now compared to back then.

Only if you didn't have to travel to riverhead
 

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Essex has to worry about William Campbell first before even thinking about Riverheads. Start looking ahead and you get beat. If and when Essex plays Riverheads I believe it will be a great game.
 

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Did I go in to a coma and miss something. I thought the playoffs started on Nov. 12th. Can someone give me a recap of all the games played before the state championship game. I already know the score and who played in it. Thanks, now I can save my money and not attend any of the games. You guys are good.
 

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Did I go in to a coma and miss something. I thought the playoffs started on Nov. 12th. Can someone give me a recap of all the games played before the state championship game. I already know the score and who played in it. Thanks, now I can save my money and not attend any of the games. You guys are good.
 
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Did I go in to a coma and miss something. I thought the playoffs started on Nov. 12th. Can someone give me a recap of all the games played before the state championship game. I already know the score and who played in it. Thanks, now I can save my money and not attend any of the games. You guys are good.

Message boards are for people to make predictions and talk. I guess all those pre-game College Football and NFL shows and sports talk radio is dumb idea because nobody watches those and nobody ever makes predictions. Stupid post Fort.
 
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Did your feelings get hurt? Is it to late to apologize? I thought this was HS, my bad. I'm going to head on over to ESPN and chat awhile. Enjoy that state title game and IT WILL BE AN ALL WEST SHOW DOWN. Talk about that for awhile, why I go eat some breakfast.
 

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Their is always a few from the east that say the west doesn't have a shot and a few from the west saying the east doesn't stand a chance. I'm not a psychic so I don't who will be in Salem but I for one am hoping for an all west final. The top four from the east have a bye week and a chance to get players healed up and one less game to play than the teams out west, does this give the east teams an advantage? Some will say yes and others will say they had rather play and stay sharp. Regardless of your or my opinion it doesn't matter because their is still a lot of football to be played and it will be settled on the field.
 

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Your 2016 state champions Sussex Tigers from the Tri Rivers District will defeat Riverhead 18 to 12
I'm pushing it with the score but Sussex has the easiest road to the title riverhead by the time they play Essex, Franklin, and Galax the are going to be beat up three tough teams in a row and Sussex defense is mind boggling just smothering Sussex wont see any real competition until GW come thru route 40 but they wont stand a chance out there will be in attendance for this one though Sussex is faster than and bigger than the 2012 franklin team that GW beat If riverhead had been the #1 seed id probably be crowning them but they have an uphill battle against them.
No No No No...As a Sussex Central Tiger family member we reject this prediction. There are some serious sleepers. Cant sleep on Norththumberland...Lunenburg and Altavista always plays tough...both great programs. We are taking it one week at a time. On paper i agree we do have the easiest road but GW is a big Dog and we cant just take them lightly. Please dont predict a sussex title.
 

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Though Riverheads loss they are still the big dogs in the east. Honestly we arent as good as people think though we have the #1 seed. The west is loaded at the top. Galax, GW, and an undefeated Hurley at #3 seems to make an interesting playoff battle in the west...the east is wide open. Sussex, Riverheads, lunenburg, altavista, Colonial beach, Franklin(could just as easily win it all), a peaking norththumberland, Essex(has only loss to one 1A team this year)...Anybody could win the east...Sussex is just as nervous as anybody else.
 
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Did I go in to a coma and miss something. I thought the playoffs started on Nov. 12th. Can someone give me a recap of all the games played before the state championship game. I already know the score and who played in it. Thanks, now I can save my money and not attend any of the games. You guys are good.

Just remember that you head it hear first woodlayer
 
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Did your feelings get hurt? Is it to late to apologize? I thought this was HS, my bad. I'm going to head on over to ESPN and chat awhile. Enjoy that state title game and IT WILL BE AN ALL WEST SHOW DOWN. Talk about that for awhile, why I go eat some breakfast.

riverhead owe galax one from last year Sussex are the top of the food chain
 

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You haven't even seen any teams play outside of Southeast Virginia bud. Until you at least see film on other teams you can't honestly say how good someone is. Like I said I've seen video of every playoff team in the East and GW, Galax, Hurley, PM and Fort out West. And I can tell you there is a lot of talented teams out there and many that are capable of going on a run and winning it all
 
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You haven't even seen any teams play outside of Southeast Virginia bud. Until you at least see film on other teams you can't honestly say how good someone is. Like I said I've seen video of every playoff team in the East and GW, Galax, Hurley, PM and Fort out West. And I can tell you there is a lot of talented teams out there and many that are capable of going on a run and winning it all
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Dude stick a fork in them they are done the sun rises in the east all east title game there is not a team in the west that will beat Sussex or Riverhead and I'm not a Sussex or a riverhead fan as much as love franklin bronco football I have seen this first hand the west wont last long I'm not saying that Riverhead and Sussex will blow them out of the water but there defenses are stifling you wont move the ball far on them you might have a chance through the air if your line can hold up but if your are planning on running the ball you can cancel Christmas they will be low scoring shutouts 12 to 0 or maybe someone may score a td or FG
 
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No No No No...As a Sussex Central Tiger family member we reject this prediction. There are some serious sleepers. Cant sleep on Norththumberland...Lunenburg and Altavista always plays tough...both great programs. We are taking it one week at a time. On paper i agree we do have the easiest road but GW is a big Dog and we cant just take them lightly. Please dont predict a sussex title.
Its ok man Sussex is really good other than the top two teams in the west GW and GALaX and riverhead you will only see riverhead and GW Galax wont survive riverhead gw is a good team but the have to travel to Sussex another hostile environment Sussex has the best team as long as they execute and play Sussex football everything will pan itself out. don't doubt Sussex it is what it is
 

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I'm not going to go back and forth with someone who is just trolling to try and start something. I'm from the East myself and if Sussex was to win then I would be happy for them. All I was saying is you can't sit here and say how Sussex will matchup against any of the other teams because you haven't actually seen any of them play. Until you actually do you are just talking for the sake of hearing yourself talk. I've been on these boards for over 10 years and think I'm fairly respected amongst the other posters who have been around for years. Honestly can't say I've ever seen you post until this year and nearly every post is trying to stir something up with someone. I won't stoop to that level. Have a good one
 

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Dude stick a fork in them they are done the sun rises in the east all east title game there is not a team in the west that will beat Sussex or Riverhead and I'm not a Sussex or a riverhead fan as much as love franklin bronco football I have seen this first hand the west wont last long I'm not saying that Riverhead and Sussex will blow them out of the water but there defenses are stifling you wont move the ball far on them you might have a chance through the air if your line can hold up but if your are planning on running the ball you can cancel Christmas they will be low scoring shutouts 12 to 0 or maybe someone may score a td or FG
No No No No...we dont want this woodlayer...I'm telling you we are fooling people. Sussex is not what you think we are...dont be surprised if Sussex loses at home to teams like lunenburg, altavista, or GW. I'm telling you that Hill injury was huge. We dont have it. The problem in 1A is you are just one injury away from your season being over...we have not recovered from that...that wound is fresh and a team who is smart could easily open it up for their gain. Our coaches are good and thats how we have gotten away with it.
 

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I had heard Hill was coming back for the playoffs from a very reliable source. Very good athlete and I hope that is the case as I hate to see anyone suffer injuries
 
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I had heard Hill was coming back for the playoffs from a very reliable source. Very good athlete and I hope that is the case as I hate to see anyone suffer injuries
Nah he is done. I wish he was...talk to him myself though. His season is over...even if he could he wouldnt be the same. Hopefully next year he will have better luck.
 

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Sad to hear. I know last year against Essex he had a huge game. Hopefully he can make a full recovery and be able to play next year
 
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Your 2016 state champions Sussex Tigers from the Tri Rivers District will defeat Riverhead 18 to 12
I'm pushing it with the score but Sussex has the easiest road to the title riverhead by the time they play Essex, Franklin, and Galax the are going to be beat up three tough teams in a row and Sussex defense is mind boggling just smothering Sussex wont see any real competition until GW come thru route 40 but they wont stand a chance out there will be in attendance for this one though Sussex is faster than and bigger than the 2012 franklin team that GW beat If riverhead had been the #1 seed id probably be crowning them but they have an uphill battle against them.

Does Galax still play in A ball? Dude, Galax is far to physical in my opinion for the Eastern Teams. Up front, they are a problem for any team they will face in the playoffs. They have the ability to win games 14-7, or 35-21, etc, but because of their line up front on the offensive side of the ball, many teams they face will get few possessions. That's exactly what happened last year. Galax is close to as good as last year. They are just a slight touch less good all around, BUT......they are still certainly good enough to win another state championship.
 

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You haven't even seen any teams play outside of Southeast Virginia bud. Until you at least see film on other teams you can't honestly say how good someone is. Like I said I've seen video of every playoff team in the East and GW, Galax, Hurley, PM and Fort out West. And I can tell you there is a lot of talented teams out there and many that are capable of going on a run and winning it all

If you have seen film of Galax, then you would see what you saw last year. Nothing fancy. They just take the ball and run it down your throat and play great defense. Their lineplay creates a problem for A schools, especially in the East that does not have the size or depth that Galax has on the line of scrimmage. I think Galax repeats. Hurley is very, very good. George Wythe is very good and they have certainly won the whole thing a time or two, and Fort Chiswell is improved from last year, but I'm telling you now, the team to beat out West even in 2016 in 1A ball is still.....Galax.
 

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You haven't even seen any teams play outside of Southeast Virginia bud. Until you at least see film on other teams you can't honestly say how good someone is. Like I said I've seen video of every playoff team in the East and GW, Galax, Hurley, PM and Fort out West. And I can tell you there is a lot of talented teams out there and many that are capable of going on a run and winning it all

If you have seen film of Galax, then you would see what you saw last year. Nothing fancy. They just take the ball and run it down your throat and play great defense. Their lineplay creates a problem for A schools, especially in the East that does not have the size or depth that Galax has on the line of scrimmage. I think Galax repeats. Hurley is very, very good. George Wythe is very good and they have certainly won the whole thing a time or two, and Fort Chiswell is improved from last year, but I'm telling you now, the team to beat out West even in 2016 in 1A ball is still.....Galax.
 

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If you have seen film of Galax, then you would see what you saw last year. Nothing fancy. They just take the ball and run it down your throat and play great defense. Their lineplay creates a problem for A schools, especially in the East that does not have the size or depth that Galax has on the line of scrimmage. I think Galax repeats. Hurley is very, very good. George Wythe is very good and they have certainly won the whole thing a time or two, and Fort Chiswell is improved from last year, but I'm telling you now, the team to beat out West even in 2016 in 1A ball is still.....Galax.
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What games have you seen in person?
 
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If you have seen film of Galax, then you would see what you saw last year. Nothing fancy. They just take the ball and run it down your throat and play great defense. Their lineplay creates a problem for A schools, especially in the East that does not have the size or depth that Galax has on the line of scrimmage. I think Galax repeats. Hurley is very, very good. George Wythe is very good and they have certainly won the whole thing a time or two, and Fort Chiswell is improved from last year, but I'm telling you now, the team to beat out West even in 2016 in 1A ball is still.....Galax.

they won't beat riverhead this year sorry lucustookis
 

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Sometimes it comes down to your draw. Parry McCluer is one of the best teams I have seen this year. Parry McCluer's draw is terrible . First play Covington(arguably the fifth or sixth best team in the west). Than to Hurley. Than to George Wythe. Than to Sussex and than the state title. If they win it, in all the years (30) of following playoffs , they will have earned it more than any other team.
 

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Sometimes it comes down to your draw. Parry McCluer is one of the best teams I have seen this year. Parry McCluer's draw is terrible . First play Covington(arguably the fifth or sixth best team in the west). Than to Hurley. Than to George Wythe. Than to Sussex and than the state title. If they win it, in all the years (30) of following playoffs , they will have earned it more than any other team.
If PM has to play from behind, they will have a hard time winning. They are built to run and run well they do. Not sure they have much in the way of a passing game. At 9-1 and a 6th seed, they indeed have to earn every win. Covington will through everything but the kitchen sink at them. So they better be ready for anything.
 
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What games have you seen in person?

9 games this year. I am a Single Wing Man, but travel and watch others as well.

Giles and BBurg
Richlands and Union
FC and Radford
Giles and Narrows
Giles and Graham
Giles and Galax
Graham and Galax
Abingdon and Richlands
Appo and Amherst

The best team I have seen in my opinion and in person out of all of these. Intentionally, it was Union. Then I watched Graham twice. At the end of the day seeing the schools above in person, Graham was the best team followed by Union and Appo tied for 2nd, followed by Amherst-Richlands-Abingdon-Giles-Galax for a 5 way tie for 3rd best. Only my opinions.
 
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Anyone know who the lowest seed to ever win states was and what year?

I can tell you this. Back in the day in far SWVA when there were 4 regions for each level of play with each level of play being Divisions 1 through 6, or call it whatever you want, A through AAAAAA. There were 4 regions for each level and in each region, only 4 teams made the playoffs. So.....for example, if this were the same as 2016, you have a total of 16 teams make the playoffs TOTAL-all across the state for A ball. The same applies to the next level. For example in the 2A this year, you have a total of 16 teams across the state make the playoffs. As you can see, the number is now doubled for teams making the playoffs. There are 32 teams x 6 levels of play make the playoffs nowadays, so a total of 192 teams in Virginia. Back in the day, is was only half of that which was 96 teams total across the state. Jonesville High and Appalachian High both were 5-5 in regular seasons on different occasions back in the late 80-s and Appalachia had that year in the very early 90's in which they were both the "4th seeded" team in their region going 5-5 in regular season, and they won the state title. Jonesville consolidated with a few other schools to form modern day, Lee High School. Appalachian of course, consolidated with it's longtime rival and nasty powerhouse, Powell Valley to form Union High. So, even in times of day being different with seeding and the amount of teams making the playoffs, Appalachia and Jonesville would mathematically have to be seeded anywhere from 12-16 in their respective sides of the state (East or West) if it were 2016. This would be the equivalent. With that written, you had some of these small single A schools playing ridiculous schedules. Talking about playing up. For example, a schedule for Appalachia may look something like this......
Powell Valley, Gate City, Tennessee High, Richlands, Grundy (much bigger then, more populated, powerhouse), Belfry, KY (AA powerhouse), then the likes of like Pound, Coeburn, Castlewood, etc. The schedules they played were insanely tough and they played up, and of the 5 losses to what was usually a powerhouse, they were in the games (3-8 point losses). So, you can see how a 5-5 school who played up most of the year could create major problems when it got into the playoffs playing against its own size/level of competition. When I am talking about playing up, I am not talking about being a 1A school and playing a 2A school. I am talking about a 1A school playing 3A schools or even 4-5A equivalents with for example, a Tenn High or Belfry. These schools played WAY up, and come playoff time, they were simply battle tested.
 

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Hopefully that will help Essex this year. Played three 2A schools, a 3A, a 4a and a 5a. 8 of the 10 teams played made the playoffs and only one team on the schedule finished worse than 4-6.