There is def smoke there. Predictions are still in favor of Bama and Auburn. Bama may not be a player and hopefully we can beat out Auburn
State of 2023 Recruiting
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UGA is listed as offering him but I have never seen his name posted on our board, almost 100% he hasn't visited. AU recruiting has not been good, they keep saying they have double digit silents but who knows. The thing about recruiting in Bama, and this is the best year in Bama in several years, is if Bama wants them its almost impossible to pull them. They say all the right things and make you think you are right there, and boom, they commit to Bama. If Bama isn't interested and only AU instate is interested there is a good shot you can get him. OM strangely has good luck in Alabama, but Bama controls the state.
He made of video of his UK visit and it looked like a commitment video. Some thought he was committing. He is ranked 102 on 247, similar on rivals. Named a top 5 of UK, UA, Bama, UF, and I think PSU
He may be taking notice of Bama's latest player development. They have recruited multiple 4 and 5* WR and OL. Yet their OL play has been very average the last couple of years, took a transfer from Vandy to start this fall, and they have took to padding their stats and not giving backups snaps to the point Saban blamed them for us beating them in Jan. They took a WR transfer from Louisville. So Bama is either misevaluating on alot of kids or their player development is poor. Staff turnover may be catching up with them, plus father time is undefeated. We are recruiting a couple kids from there that are saying the right things, but I just won't believe it until they enroll.
Just so much pressure to stay instate.
UGA had one several years back. A local orthopedic surgeon was a walk-on snapper on the 1980 team. He had 3 boys who were walking snappers that covered nearly 10 years. But I think it's pretty rare for a long snapper to be on scholarship, especially with the rules being what they are. He gets to be a gunner that gets off the line free, so teams want guys who can run.
…I don’t think we even have a special teams coordinator.
As rough and tough as Stoops is, I’m not sure he knows long snappers exist.
If we’re gonna take that next step, we have to get better at special teams.
Unless the rules have changed recently, he would count against the football scholarship limit if a school recruits him.
Congrats on having a talented nephew with his head on straight. Depending on what his future plans are, if I had a son that could get the full academic scholarship to anywhere, an MIT, Stanford, Ivy league education would be hard to turn down. But I get it, those aren't his dream school.
I think the recruiting part is key, and what the interpertation of recruiting is. But that was pre nuetering of the NCAA, I don't think they are going to make a ruling on anything now. This NIL wasn't suppose to be paid to attend a school and it has in fact what it is being used for.
This isn't how scholarships work in D1. If you're on academic scholarship, you count as being on athletic scholarship. Otherwise you'd see schools loading up on huge numbers of "academic" scholarship guys.
Or at least it was that way when I was being recruited for tennis. D1 programs wanted me to walk-on, but I was such a good student that I had full rides most places and couldn't. Could only go through tryouts and walk on after the fact.
If it involves UK, there will be a ruling on it.
We can't afford to skirt the rules in any way shape or form. He will have to contact the school and do the visiting, or he'll count against scholarship totals. PWO cannot be recruited by the school.
Nope. As long as the football program isn't recruiting you, you can WO with an academic scholarship. If they recruit you, then it counts against the athletic scholarship numbers. He has to contact the offices, set up a visit, show up, and then I believe the ball is in UKs court. I don't think they can initiate anything until then.
Please, someone, correct me if I'm wrong or anything has changed in that regard.
In fact, I would recommend @Cat06 that he get in touch with our recent PWO RB or his coach to find out how he went about the process.
PWO can't be recruited? Never knew that. I know UK coaches went to Belfy and offered, KY Mr Football a PWO. I would call that recruiting.
We all know that. It doesn't matter what YOU call it. It matters what the NCAA calls it.
(As I said very clearly, unless things have changed) He has to initiate the process. They can return contact, even visit, but he can't be brought in on a visit on UK's dime. That's what I'm talking about. As I said, if you can cite rule changes, I'm all ears. If not, you're wasting my time and yours.
Here's a site that seems to have some info-
https://informedathlete.com/ncaa-preferred-walk-on/
I don't see anything in the NCAA manual for this year that even addresses the contact or recruitment of a player by coaches that would be on a non-institutional academic scholarship. I didn't go that deep into it, but couldn't find any info. Doesn't mean it isn't still a rule for a derelict association like the NCAA, but it's not in the manual that I could see.
Now let's keep the thread back on track.
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WTF dude. Just said I had never heard of them not being able to recruit a PWO. Not going on OVs is one thing not recruiting is another,.
Lol. Easy dude.
Back when I was being recruited, you couldn't be called a PWO under academic scholarship (D1) if the school initiated the contact. You had to contact the coaches and apply for admission to the university first. Then once accepted you would contact the coaches about a position as a PWO. They couldn't recruit you without you counting against scholarship numbers. It was a stupid and complicated process.
Back then being a PWO would mean eating at the training table but not counting against scholarship limits. The coaches could not spend an otherwise allowable dime on you for fear you would count against their athletic scholarship numbers.
That was a long time ago, and I don't know if the rules have changed.
I just don't see the NCAA doing much of anything else. They are in the process or try to anyway of transferring rule making and enforcement to conferences.
I can see a super conference 30-40 teams that are willing to get into the FIL war. Rest of P5 G5 and the smaller classes that survive will form divisions without FIL or limited FIL arrangements.
Sorry I must have misunderstood your comment. I had never heard of that and my original comment was meant as a question. It's always good to learn something new.
Sorry if my comment came off wrong.
PWO means/used to mean different things to different schools, too.
This slipped through the cracks because of the draft, but UK got a Crystal Ball for Karmello English
Would hold off putting too much stock in that for the time being.
John Settle is our special teams coordinator. He has done a good job.
I agree with Girthang. Let's keep the thread on track. It should not be difficult.
When the spring and summer position camps and combines get going, there should be more recruiting news.
Cutter Boley, the qb that is on the ad scroll, has got a hell of an arm.
6'5".... His dad must be a giant.
6'5".... His dad must be a giant.
Grumpy, what is “FIL,” that you frequently mention.
Are you discussing “NIL,” but hitting an “F” accidentally?
Dad played Basketball at WKU.
Cutter’s sister was a top recruit in basketball and is at Oregon.
Yes and Penn State offered a few days ago. Seems to really like them too, but would bet on UC.
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