State projected to Peach now...
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BCS - Alabama and Auburn<div>Capital One - LSU</div><div>Outback - Mississippi State</div><div>Cotton - Arkansas</div><div>Peach - Florida</div><div>Gator - South Carolina</div><div>Music City - Kentucky</div><div>Liberty - Ole Miss</div><div>Birmingham - Georgia?</div>
The Outback will almost always take an East team. It has nothing to do with pecking order. They've had an SEC tie in for 15 years. They've taken 12 East teams, Auburn twice, and Bama once. They took an East team for 12 straight years from 1997-2008.
They will occasionally take Auburn, because Auburn is close to Florida and travels well to Tampa. Other than that, it'll be an East team as often as possible.
The Cap One will usually take the best available team regardless of location. The Outback and Cotton though usually take the next best East and West teams respectively, and only occasionally do they waiver from that. The Cotton, for example, has had an SEC tie in since the 1999 season. In 11 years, they've had a West team 9 times, with Tennessee getting the draw the other 2 times. You can generally assume the Cap One gets the best non-BCS team. Then the Outback takes the next best East team and the Cotton takes the next best West team. It doesn't always go that way, but that's the general order, followed by the Peach and Gator. I don't know if the Gator fits in before the Peach or not or if they share the pick, but those are the next two, followed of course by the Music City/Liberty (in no particular order), and followed last by the Pizza Bowl.
In your scenario, most likely, South Carolina or Florida would end up in the Outback, assuming LSU was the 3rd SEC team taken (Cap One Bowl). You'd be fighting Arkansas for the Cotton. If you didn't get that, you'd be either Peach or Gator with either Florida or South Carolina in the other.
That's assuming Kentucky doesn't make a move to jump ahead of South Carolina in the pecking order, and I don't think they will. They could make a move to move ahead of you in the pecking order potentially, which would knock you to the Music City/Liberty tier assuming everything else plays out as expected (and it won't).
They will occasionally take Auburn, because Auburn is close to Florida and travels well to Tampa. Other than that, it'll be an East team as often as possible.
The Cap One will usually take the best available team regardless of location. The Outback and Cotton though usually take the next best East and West teams respectively, and only occasionally do they waiver from that. The Cotton, for example, has had an SEC tie in since the 1999 season. In 11 years, they've had a West team 9 times, with Tennessee getting the draw the other 2 times. You can generally assume the Cap One gets the best non-BCS team. Then the Outback takes the next best East team and the Cotton takes the next best West team. It doesn't always go that way, but that's the general order, followed by the Peach and Gator. I don't know if the Gator fits in before the Peach or not or if they share the pick, but those are the next two, followed of course by the Music City/Liberty (in no particular order), and followed last by the Pizza Bowl.
In your scenario, most likely, South Carolina or Florida would end up in the Outback, assuming LSU was the 3rd SEC team taken (Cap One Bowl). You'd be fighting Arkansas for the Cotton. If you didn't get that, you'd be either Peach or Gator with either Florida or South Carolina in the other.
That's assuming Kentucky doesn't make a move to jump ahead of South Carolina in the pecking order, and I don't think they will. They could make a move to move ahead of you in the pecking order potentially, which would knock you to the Music City/Liberty tier assuming everything else plays out as expected (and it won't).
Easy 4hr drive time for me from North Carolina and Atlanta is a cool place and we should be able to beat up on most ACC schools except VT and MIA. Gator, Capital One, and Outback are my next choices. Cotton Bowl would be awesome, but we would probably end up playing Texas and it's a really long distance for me to travel. I'm selfish I know.
But now I'm serious.. If we win out expect beating Bama...and I feel their is a decent chance of that happening..
AU/LSU/UA - 2 in BCS, other in Cap One... leaving us as the 4th in the west but best for the Cotton.
Cotton will pick us over Arkansas also I think if it is close as they have them every year for the next 10-30 years with tam.
AU/LSU/UA - 2 in BCS, other in Cap One... leaving us as the 4th in the west but best for the Cotton.
Cotton will pick us over Arkansas also I think if it is close as they have them every year for the next 10-30 years with tam.
I just want a favorable matchup. I know Texas isn't the Texas they usually are, but they just won at #5 Nebraska and shut down Martinez who has played out of his mind this year. I would rather play in the Peach Bowl against an NC State, UNC, Clemson, Georgia Tech type team where we have a 55-60% chance of winning that game over a Texas, Oklahoma State type team where we probably have under a 50% chance of winning. If you look at the Big 12 standings, the Cotton Bowl is going to feature a really good team. If we could luck out and get Kansas State I would take that in a heartbeat, but if the Cotton Bowl had a chance at getting Texas, Jerry World would be filled 80K Texas fans heartbeat.ScoobaDawg said:
And really, that's the way it should be. Tampa's a long damn way from here and not that easy to get to. Plus, it's not like it's a better bowl than the Cotton to begin with (or the Peach either for that matter). I never understood why so many of our fans were pissed that year they took Georgia instead of us. Who wants to play at 10:00 AM on New Years Day anyway. I've always thought we got the better bowl that year playing Clemson in the Peach.
That'd be pretty cool. I think we could beat them. I just don't want to play Georgia Tech in the Music City Bowl. Part of the excitement of a bowl game is playing an unfamiliar opponent/seeing different traditions.
Right now, I'd say we are spot on for the Peach. A win over Arkansas from the Cotton, and an unexpected loss to UAB or Kentucky from dropping to the Liberty.
Projected Opponents:
Peach: Virginia Tech or Florida State (cool)
Cotton: Texas, Missouri or Nebraska (cool)
Liberty: East Carolina or Southern Methodist (not cool)
We need to win the next two weeks to solidify the Peach and take Liberty out of the conversation. Then the Arkansas game is likely for the Cotton Bowl, regardless of what we do against Alabama and the Black Bears. I think it takes a win over Alabama to be talking Capital One. The Outback is never going to happen. They just prefer an East team like the Cotton prefers a West team. South Carolina isn't going to the Cotton Bowl, Mississippi State isn't going to the Outback Bowl.
Tennessee and Florida are semi-attractive to the Cotton Bowl. Alabama, Auburn and possibly LSU could go to the Outback. State, Ole Miss and Arkansas will NEVER sniff the Outback Bowl. South Carolina, Kentucky and Vandy will NEVER go to the Cotton Bowl.
That being said, here are the 615dawg projections.
BCS National Championship Game: Auburn vs. Oregon in the greatest NC game ever.
Sugar Bowl: Alabama vs. Boise State - Boise is poised to move to No. 2 and Auburn passes them in the final standings. Bama gets an at-large bid despite two losses.
Capital One Bowl: LSU vs. Ohio State - One of the better non-BCS games featuring 10-2 LSU and 10-2 Ohio State
Outback Bowl: Florida vs. Iowa - "Outback snubs Mississippi State" and picks up SEC East champion Florida, despite 8-4 record.
Cotton Bowl: Arkansas vs. Texas - The traditional matchup possibility gets 8-4 Hogs over State despite MSU win.
Peach Bowl: Mississippi State vs. Florida State - Both teams travel well and sets attendance record at Peach Bowl. 8-4 Bulldogs ring in new year in Atlanta
Gator Bowl: South Carolina vs. Michigan - After dropping games to Florida and Clemson to end the season, 7-5 Gamecocks look lethargic in Gator Bowl.
Music City Bowl: Tennessee vs. Georgia Tech - Vols win final four games and find themselves 6-6 and headed to Nashville.
Liberty: Georgia vs. Southern Methodist - an upset of Georgia Tech to end the season gets Dawgs to six wins and while both the Liberty and Music City choose Tennessee, Tennessee chooses the Music City.
Birmingham: Kentucky vs. Pittsburgh - Another 6-6 team from the East, UK draws the short straw and heads to the Magic City.
Right now, I'd say we are spot on for the Peach. A win over Arkansas from the Cotton, and an unexpected loss to UAB or Kentucky from dropping to the Liberty.
Projected Opponents:
Peach: Virginia Tech or Florida State (cool)
Cotton: Texas, Missouri or Nebraska (cool)
Liberty: East Carolina or Southern Methodist (not cool)
We need to win the next two weeks to solidify the Peach and take Liberty out of the conversation. Then the Arkansas game is likely for the Cotton Bowl, regardless of what we do against Alabama and the Black Bears. I think it takes a win over Alabama to be talking Capital One. The Outback is never going to happen. They just prefer an East team like the Cotton prefers a West team. South Carolina isn't going to the Cotton Bowl, Mississippi State isn't going to the Outback Bowl.
Tennessee and Florida are semi-attractive to the Cotton Bowl. Alabama, Auburn and possibly LSU could go to the Outback. State, Ole Miss and Arkansas will NEVER sniff the Outback Bowl. South Carolina, Kentucky and Vandy will NEVER go to the Cotton Bowl.
That being said, here are the 615dawg projections.
BCS National Championship Game: Auburn vs. Oregon in the greatest NC game ever.
Sugar Bowl: Alabama vs. Boise State - Boise is poised to move to No. 2 and Auburn passes them in the final standings. Bama gets an at-large bid despite two losses.
Capital One Bowl: LSU vs. Ohio State - One of the better non-BCS games featuring 10-2 LSU and 10-2 Ohio State
Outback Bowl: Florida vs. Iowa - "Outback snubs Mississippi State" and picks up SEC East champion Florida, despite 8-4 record.
Cotton Bowl: Arkansas vs. Texas - The traditional matchup possibility gets 8-4 Hogs over State despite MSU win.
Peach Bowl: Mississippi State vs. Florida State - Both teams travel well and sets attendance record at Peach Bowl. 8-4 Bulldogs ring in new year in Atlanta
Gator Bowl: South Carolina vs. Michigan - After dropping games to Florida and Clemson to end the season, 7-5 Gamecocks look lethargic in Gator Bowl.
Music City Bowl: Tennessee vs. Georgia Tech - Vols win final four games and find themselves 6-6 and headed to Nashville.
Liberty: Georgia vs. Southern Methodist - an upset of Georgia Tech to end the season gets Dawgs to six wins and while both the Liberty and Music City choose Tennessee, Tennessee chooses the Music City.
Birmingham: Kentucky vs. Pittsburgh - Another 6-6 team from the East, UK draws the short straw and heads to the Magic City.
random question. how much do bowl tickets usually cost and how is purchasing done? is each school allotted a certain amount and we buy from the athletic department or do we buy directly from the bow.l thanks
but given divisions and the tie ins with other conference, it doesn't always end up being the better game. The Peach often draws as good of a team from the ACC as the Outback gets from the Big 10. Last year, for example, Auburn got the Outback and drew a much easier Northwestern team than Tennessee drew in the Peach with Virginia Tech.
or that bowl. (and I was just as guilty as the next guyt thinking wedeserved to go to the Outback)In reality the only bowls we would ever "deserve" is a BCS bowl if we are so ranked, or the Cotton Bowl if we are the best team in the west that isn't going to a BCS bowl. Past that it's all about logistics and proximity of the fan base and how they will travel. For that reason, we will never be appealing to the Outback.
The payouts are within the same range, but the Peach is less.
Last year, the Peach paid out $2.825M to both teams. The Outback and Cotton were both at $3M.
Also, the current pecking order goes like this:
1 - BCS
2 - Capital One
3/4 - Outback/Cotton (they occasionally have to negotiate, but like I said it usually just goes East/West)
5 - Peach
6 - Gator
7/8 - Music City/Liberty (they each pick at the same time, and if they pick the same team, the team gets to choose its bowl destination)
9 - Papa Johns
I am unsure about the Gator and Peach alignment, but I know both of them are still below the Outback and Cotton in their order of when they get to pick.
Last year, the Peach paid out $2.825M to both teams. The Outback and Cotton were both at $3M.
Also, the current pecking order goes like this:
1 - BCS
2 - Capital One
3/4 - Outback/Cotton (they occasionally have to negotiate, but like I said it usually just goes East/West)
5 - Peach
6 - Gator
7/8 - Music City/Liberty (they each pick at the same time, and if they pick the same team, the team gets to choose its bowl destination)
9 - Papa Johns
I am unsure about the Gator and Peach alignment, but I know both of them are still below the Outback and Cotton in their order of when they get to pick.
instead of years past when their 3rd or 4th best team was sent to Alanta . Reason being,The ACC used to send their 2nd best team to the Gator bowl up until last year when the Gator bowl broke off the ACC/Big12 tie in for a SEC/Big Ten tie in. . Florida State could very well end up in the Peach .