Statement from Garrison's mama

57stratdawg

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I don't think this gets to this point if Garrison is telling mom at night "I want to go to MSU".

Oh well, have fun at prep school.
 

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Garrison on signing day..
[FONT=&quot]Brooks announced his decision to attend and play for Mississippi State on Wednesday morning — the first day of college basketball’s early signing period — in front of a packed crowd at Auburn High’s New Gym. The four-star prospect then made it official by signing his National Letter of Intent.
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[FONT=&quot]"I knew for a couple of weeks," Brooks said about his decision, "but I took a couple of days just to make sure this is where I think is best for me. And this is where I think is best for me.
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[FONT=&quot]"It’s a monkey off my back, really."
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[FONT=&quot]Brooks’ father, George Brooks, is an assistant on the Mississippi State staff.
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[FONT=&quot]"[That] does mean a lot to me," Brooks said. "I never got a chance to play for my dad and all my friends play for their dad, so it means something.
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[FONT=&quot]"It meant a lot but it wasn’t the only thing that factored in. It was one of the main factors but the other stuff factored in with it."
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[FONT=&quot]For Brooks, a strong relationship with the entire Mississippi State coaching staff was among the most significant factors. Shortly after Ben Howland was hired as the team's head basketball coach on March 23, 2015, Brooks said he began communicating with him.
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[FONT=&quot]"They developed a relationship with me from day one," Brooks said. "When coach Howland got the job, the week after, I started talking to him like immediately."
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[FONT=&quot]Eventually, on April 8, Brooks had an in-home visit from Howland.
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[FONT=&quot]"How much they have invested in me in the past two years made me feel really good about the situation," Brooks said.
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[FONT=&quot]Playing time and the chance to have an immediate impact were other big draws in Brooks' mind. He estimated that he will be playing around 30 minutes for Auburn High this season, and in college, "I don’t want a huge decrease, like to go down to 10 minutes," he said. "I don’t want to do that. I want to go somewhere where I get a chance to compete and start and play a whole lot."
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[FONT=&quot]Brooks will have that at Mississippi State.
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[FONT=&quot]"I saw what the four-man did in the system for coach Howland last year," Brooks said, "but I think I’ll have a bigger impact than he had."
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Crazy talk from a woman/mother . . . imagine that. Shocking! ***
 

AlCoDog

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This has Bruce Pearl all over it in my opinion. Just like Hopson, he's all about the mommas.
 

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From the article

"My thing is we’re going to take this to the end of the earth. If that means we have to lawyer up, fight fire with fire, we’re going to see this to the end. Garrison does not intend to play basketball for Mississippi State. He doesn’t plan on going to juco. If he has to go to prep school, that’s fine, we’ll do that. But he’s not playing for Mississippi State because he doesn’t want to. He doesn’t feel that it’s a good fit. He feels like he made an emotional decision."

No one is saying he has to play for MSU. Howland is just saying that he can play for MSU but he can't play for anyone else above the JUCO level. Why doesn't she just send him to prep school if "that's fine"? Why fight it?
 

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17 her, and honestly, 17 FWTCT for giving her a mouthpiece from which to speak. There's a reason why Scout / 247 didn't give her the time of day for her to air all of her 9 kinds of BS. They might as well have run a 2000 word piece that was an interview with Hugh Freeze asking him to rank his Top 5 summer vacation destinations in Oktibbeha County. She is not and never has been a friend of the MSU program, and any type of dialogue between MSU fansites and her should have ceased to exist no later than signing day.
 

johnson86-1

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17 her, and honestly, 17 FWTCT for giving her a mouthpiece from which to speak. There's a reason why Scout / 247 didn't give her the time of day for her to air all of her 9 kinds of BS. They might as well have run a 2000 word piece that was an interview with Hugh Freeze asking him to rank his Top 5 summer vacation destinations in Oktibbeha County. She is not and never has been a friend of the MSU program, and any type of dialogue between MSU fansites and her should have ceased to exist no later than signing day.

Seriously, 17 FWTCT. They need to take that **** down. Granted she sounds like a crazy person, but it's not obvious enough to justify giving a mouthpiece to that kind of talk. Too many people will not know any backstory and will get an inaccurate impression.
 

mstateglfr

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What a seriously unfortunate situation for Garrison. That has to suck- being stuck between parents fighting over something, or having made a decision as a minor and not being able to change it without severe consequences.

I still dont want him to come to MSU if he doesnt want to be here. Nobody should want a player on the team who doesnt want to be on the team as it just sets up for drama and issues within the team's chemistry.
Addition by subtraction, perhaps.
 

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What a seriously unfortunate situation for Garrison. That has to suck- being stuck between parents fighting over something, or having made a decision as a minor and not being able to change it without severe consequences.

I still dont want him to come to MSU if he doesnt want to be here. Nobody should want a player on the team who doesnt want to be on the team as it just sets up for drama and issues within the team's chemistry.
Addition by subtraction, perhaps.

He doesn't have to go to State.

Momma is missing an excellent opportunity to teach her son that actions have consequences. Helicopter parents bailing their kids out all the time is bad for society.

Momma could say, "Well son, you signed it. You can go to State, prep school, or JUCO. You choose."
 
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HotMop

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This sentence says it all, "How did he make this decision without his mother?"
 

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Seriously, 17 FWTCT. They need to take that **** down. Granted she sounds like a crazy person, but it's not obvious enough to justify giving a mouthpiece to that kind of talk. Too many people will not know any backstory and will get an inaccurate impression.

Yes 17 FWtCT for merely confirming your suspicions on the mother* Ben Howland declined comment at the press conference. Probaly due to the situation or to NCAA Rules. We have heard what Garrison has said from signing day, we have heard from the mother who is all of a sudden meddling(probaly to make a name for herself) and we have heard from Howland as much as we can. We will see what happens. But it is looking more and more like hes coming to State
 

mstateglfr

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He doesn't have to go to State.

Momma is missing an excellent opportunity to teach her son that actions have consequences. Helicopter parents bailing their kids out all the time is bad for society.

Momma could say, "Well son, you signed it. You can go to State, prep school, or JUCO. You choose."

Yeah, its obvious he doesnt have to go to MSU. His mom says as much multiple times in her statement even.

As for parents bailing kids out too much...learning consequences are important, I agree. That doesnt mean every situation needs to be a teachable moment. Perhaps she has taught him consequences thru the last 17 years. Perhaps he is well aware that while there are consequences in life, many adults dont have to live by the well established consequences set for their actions, and so such an approach may work here.

Maybe we just leave the 'lesson learning' out of this.




Again, I really hope that he as a person is able to come out of this situation with as healthy a perspective as possible.
 
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It does sound like George Brooks pulled a fast one, but is Garrison a p**sy? "Mom, I don't want to play there, what can I do?" sounds like a little league kid.

I would cut bait.
 

Wizard.sixpack

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BS....If she wasn't so adamant about not wanting him to come here before he signed I would believe her. But this is ALL her no doubt!
 

johnson86-1

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It does sound like George Brooks pulled a fast one, but is Garrison a p**sy? "Mom, I don't want to play there, what can I do?" sounds like a little league kid.

I would cut bait.

I wouldn't assume he actually said that. And I also wouldn't be too hard on a teenager for not having the ability to stand up to the parent that he lived with. If she is as crazy as she sounds, then it would be pretty rare for him to have healthy boundaries with her at this age.
 

engie

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Yeah, its obvious he doesnt have to go to MSU. His mom says as much multiple times in her statement even.

As for parents bailing kids out too much...learning consequences are important, I agree. That doesnt mean every situation needs to be a teachable moment. Perhaps she has taught him consequences thru the last 17 years. Perhaps he is well aware that while there are consequences in life, many adults dont have to live by the well established consequences set for their actions, and so such an approach may work here.

Maybe we just leave the 'lesson learning' out of this.




Again, I really hope that he as a person is able to come out of this situation with as healthy a perspective as possible.

Again. Just take over my student loans. I'll pay you 20% interest compounded monthly. I promise. Until I change my mind, of course. At which point, we can just call it even.
 

Wizard.sixpack

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It does sound like George Brooks pulled a fast one, but is Garrison a p**sy? "Mom, I don't want to play there, what can I do?" sounds like a little league kid.

I would cut bait.
I would'nt believe that is how it actually went down. I think it was something more like constant hounding and bitching since signing day and Garrison finally saying "OK...ENOUGH DAMMIT I'll see if I can get out of it!!!"
 

patdog

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Well, what the hell else would you expect her to make it sound like? We're handling this exactly the way we should be.
 
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I would'nt believe that is how it actually went down. I think it was something more like constant hounding and bitching since signing day and Garrison finally saying "OK...ENOUGH DAMMIT I'll see if I can get out of it!!!"

I trust Howland & IB to handle this, but I would hate for this to be something that brings our BKB program down (If Brooks did anything wrong) It only takes one crazy parent. #LindseyMiller
 

whosyourdawgy

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I trust Howland & IB to handle this, but I would hate for this to be something that brings our BKB program down (If Brooks did anything wrong) It only takes one crazy parent. #LindseyMiller

Only way this brings out basketball program down is letting a FOUR STAR forward walk to go play for more than likely a division rival.
 

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It is very disappointing that MSU capitulated in this situation. We are basically saying to every future player in every sport that their signed LOI means nothing. We will release them from it any time they raise a little hell about it. That will certainly put us at a competitive disadvantage. We should have told his crazy mother to hire her a lawyer and take her best shot. By the time the case was resolved in the appellate courts, Garrison would have missed most of his college career. If our university counsel advised the athletic department to cave in, rather than fight, then we need new counsel, because no way would MSU have lost a court battle on this issue. As For Whom the Cowbell Tolls, I hope it tolls for thee, and that you are soon out of business. There is absolutely no reason why any MSU fansite should have given Crazy Mama a forum from which to spout her venom.
 

mstateglfr

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It is very disappointing that MSU capitulated in this situation. We are basically saying to every future player in every sport that their signed LOI means nothing. We will release them from it any time they raise a little hell about it. That will certainly put us at a competitive disadvantage. We should have told his crazy mother to hire her a lawyer and take her best shot. By the time the case was resolved in the appellate courts, Garrison would have missed most of his college career. If our university counsel advised the athletic department to cave in, rather than fight, then we need new counsel, because no way would MSU have lost a court battle on this issue. As For Whom the Cowbell Tolls, I hope it tolls for thee, and that you are soon out of business. There is absolutely no reason why any MSU fansite should have given Crazy Mama a forum from which to spout her venom.
Forest for the trees.
Being the big bad power holder in a court case and flexing muscle to squash the child's hopes and dreams is no way to win MSU any good will.
 

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Why isn't she asking her son that question....

This sentence says it all, "How did he make this decision without his mother?"

How does a guy go from going on record talking about how this decision developed over two years of contact with State's program to his mother saying he made an emotional decision. Sorry but that dog don't hunt. She got our program to cave by threatening to what amounts to extortion. What a POS.
 
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GloryDawg

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These guys need to to grow up. They want to be treated like men well then act like men.
 

Shamoan

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garrison's mom is weak and most likely being promised something in return. bruce pearl is a pos.
 

engie

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Being the big bad power holder in a court case and flexing muscle to squash the child's hopes and dreams is no way to win MSU any good will.

All of the big bad power holders in a court case should just relent to all of the frivolous stuff they face every day. Then, everyone would smile at them and pat them on the back when they walk past and it would actually help them retain clients in the future.*
 

KurtRambis4

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You seem to think

that those saying he should learn an important life lesson here are not hoping for the best in him.

I'd argue the opposite. That wishing the boy grow up and become a man, accountable for his actions, is actually the better of the two.
 
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CoolDawg

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Forest for the trees.
Being the big bad power holder in a court case and flexing muscle to squash the child's hopes and dreams is no way to win MSU any good will.

Let me remind you that it is not MSU that was threatening legal action. It was Brooks' mother. We should not roll over an play dead anytime there is a threat of legal action. I would absolutely have loved for her to take this to court. MSU would have then been able to take her deposition and subpoena her phone records, bank records, and emails. I suspect that hidden somewhere within them would be evidence that leads to Bruce Pearl and Auburn's doorsteps. I realize that Brooks couldn't be forced to play basketball at MSU, but he should have been required to go the juco route or lose a year of eligibility. As it is, Brooks suffers no consequences for his actions while we are a player short and could have used his scholarship for someone else. MSU shouldn't be the only loser in this deal.
 

mstateglfr

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All of the big bad power holders in a court case should just relent to all of the frivolous stuff they face every day. Then, everyone would smile at them and pat them on the back when they walk past and it would actually help them retain clients in the future.*
If that is the extreme you want to take my comment to, then so be it. I dont agree with it, but so be it.
This issue is a spectrum and we fall on different parts of the spectrum, which neither is at the extreme end where the letter of the law resides.
 
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