Steve's chat

[Carbaryl]

Not going to give away Steve's content,but if you missed his chat tonight you missed a good one!Let's just say if you have just a little worry about the NCAA when it comes to anything State related, then you're doing yourself a great injustice.#pleaseletthisgotocourt

 

[Snog]

Well.........you know when they drag out McKinney to push the false narrative they're f ed.

 

[bulldognation]

That's why I keep thinking this RR lawsuit is a double edged sword for the Bears. They are so caught up with the vision of LL and Dan testifying under oath that they haven't thought about what could come to light with the OM staff or boosters testifying on the same stand. The NCAA has already made allegations that the OM staff knowingly misled them during this investigation, and OM isn't disputing that. So what makes them think in a court of law that they are as pure as the wind driven snow? Unless I'm forgetting the likes of Dickie Scruggs and paying off judges for favorable rulings etc. Most dishonest and self-inflated group of egos in college football.

Bears can't win anywhere unless they cheat and stack the deck in their favor.

 

[aTotal360]

The narrative they have been pushing over the past 2 weeks is exactly that. Narrative. Don't fall for it.

 

[Allday.sixpack]

The funny thing is, after they get sentenced, fined ,show caused, disassociated boosters,vacated wins, bowl banned, scholarship reduction, public humiliation , etc... the bastards are going to continue to cheat. You can't change their quick fix culture.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Is McKinney still doing a show from a prison cell or is he out now?

 

[The Peeper]

I cant think of Scott McKinney and not think about Granny Clampett cooking vittles

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

Steve Robertson had drug problems as a teenager 20+ years ago = Loses credibility for the rest of his life

McKinney was convicted of fraud, racketeering, theft, and money laundering just a few years ago = Trustworthy source of information

Makes sense**

 

[Predestined]

What's fer supper? Whatever it is, top it off with some good 'l cathead biscuits!

 

[coach66]

I'm afraid you may be right especially if you see our program get on a roll. It

will be too much for them.

 

[57stratdawg]

If the NCAA is back in Oxford in the next 5 years, OM football will not survive.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

And that's when they will get the DP. Same thing happened to SMU. It was the second time. How awesome would that be and them be kicked out of the SEC, starting up a rivalry with USM and ending the egg bowl.

 

[patdog]

I actually think the penalties are going to be so severe, it's going to shock them into line. Kind of like the SMU penalties did to their corrupt program, to a lesser extent. But if you're right, they will get the death penalty in a few years.

 

[patdog]

Here's the problem with the whole narrative that Leo and Kobe lied to the NCAA. There was absolutely no reason for them to lie. They didn't go to the NCAA, the NCAA came to them. And the NCAA didn't come to them until after they already had evidence against Rebel Rags. By the time the NCAA interviewed them, whatever they said wasn't going to have much effect on the case one way or the other. We knew that from the beginning and you can be sure our compliance staff and coaches advised them that the only way they or MSU could get in trouble with the NCAA was if they lied.

 

[Drebin]

This is the most delicious scenario ever.

1. A couple of years of on-field mediocrity, crappy recruiting, and no bowls while under the cloud of NCAA investigation
2. NCAA ruling....severe penalties...crippling
3. Three years in, the NCAA comes back in and investigates aGAIN
4. Further mediocrity due to the newer, bigger, black cloud
5. NCAA ruling...death penalty

Holy crap, that would be awesome.

 

[johnson86-1]

I actually think the penalties are going to be so severe, it's going to shock them into line. Kind of like the SMU penalties did to their corrupt program, to a lesser extent. But if you're right, they will get the death penalty in a few years.

I think their administration is going to keep them in line officially. They may risk losing their job because of football performance, but if they get UM the death penalty, they'll have to worry about being employable in college athletics period.

But I also think they are going to have real trouble reeling in some of their boosters. I think the Rebel Rags guy has the tentative blessing of the administration for his lawsuit, but I'm not sure he would shut it down if the administration told him to. I suspect the type of boosters like that typically aren't going to listen to the administration mostly won't have the ability to do much more than embarrass UM and cause minor problems with the NCAA, but it will require that the administration be able to actually convince the NCAA they really are making legitimate efforts to reel things in, which of course no one involved with the current administration would have the credibility to do and for the new people, it will probably require much more vigilance than shown by the typical athletic department.

 

[Moe Cabelle]

I think their administration is going to keep them in line officially. They may risk losing their job because of football performance, but if they get UM the death penalty, they'll have to worry about being employable in college athletics period.

This suggest that their admin has an ounce of real integrity. From their pres on down, that has rarely been the case in the recent past. Who else hires a former football player as president? I give no ***** that he was a phd. They got so comfy skirting the issues with Slive that they thought they'd always be protected. Now they are busted and watching them lose their **** trying to bring everyone else down with them has been enjoyable. The fact that they think DM and little ol' MSU has that power shows how delusional and freaked out they are. If they hadn't been SO arrogant over the years, they'd enjoy more sympathy... but this concept eludes them.

I hope the get hammered and Freeze survives. Once he struggles, they will call him a charlatain and fire his butt.

 

[Allday.sixpack]

OM has one of the most segmented athletic departments in the SEC. They have about 5 Athletic Directors.

Bjork, title only
Archie Maning
Scruggs
Tuhey
Haley Barbour and every politician and north delta farmer.

I don't believe the NCAA sanctions will apply or cripple all 5 of these.
I predict cheating will continue.

 

[Shamoan]

lets talk about the RR sting. what do we know about that? Obviously, they had something going on over there, but how does it tie to LL and KJ's statements to the ncaa? they said it went down like x,y,z and the ncaa sends in two croots and leave with gear? if the sting was unsuccessful, how could they name RR?

 

[Drebin]

This is just my speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did the sting once earlier in the process and discovered shenanigans, and then they did the sting with the OM administration involved and found nothing, which would suggest some sort of cover up.

It's just something I've suspected.

 

[patdog]

if the sting was unsuccessful, how could they name RR?

What makes you think the sting was unsuccessful?

 

[Drebin]

What makes you think the sting was unsuccessful?

I think that's part of RR's argument in his lawsuit to support his assertion that he didn't give anything - that the NCAA didn't come up with anything in that sting. It's reasonable to assume that, anyway.

But like I said, I bet that wasn't their first rodeo in RR's establishment.

 

[patdog]

I wouldn't take anything from Rebel Rags, it's owner, its attorney, or anyone at UM at face value.

 

[DudyDog]

Let me throw this out there...

"what else" does the NCAA know that they haven't brought out? My point being, most people don't believe the NCAA will give the death penalty on a "first offense". That they will have to be repeat offender status to play that card.

We know they have uncovered and have unwavering documentation for 21 allegations of CHEATING. How many more do they have that they couldn't quite put the final piece of evidence needed to make it iron clad? You know that the NCAA knows how dirty OM is. How they have a system in place to ignore the rules set forth by the NCAA and having a lack of institutional control. You just know that it has crossed the NCAA's minds that, how can we shut this network of non compliance down.

My question is....what if...and do you think....that the NCAA has some other allegations with iron clad evidence to back them up stored in their pocket, to be brought out in say 2-3 years, to be used to play the repeat offender card and squash "the network"?

 

[MaroonNation]

I was not aware there was anything to worry about in the first place. OM people repeat **** till everyone believes it. Some of y'all need to stop reading their ****.

2 weeks ago the OM message boards started to push this "Leo Lewis stuff getting tossed out" agenda and the OM rant goons have repeated it so often that now 3/4 of tRant posters are accepting that as truth and now you go over there and see the "Well now that the LL testimony will be thrown out you still have 15 more Level1s" threads. It really is ridiculous how many people fall for their ****. If a person can't tell fact from fiction then they need to stay away from message boards.

 

[MaroonNation]

If the NCAA is back in Oxford in the next 5 years, OM football will not survive.

they are on a decade cycle. Not too soon to get repeat offender by today's rules but if you look at there history they get popped about every ten years.

 

[Drebin]

I was not aware there was anything to worry about in the first place. OM people repeat **** till everyone believes it. Some of y'all need to stop reading their ****.

2 weeks ago the OM message boards started to push this "Leo Lewis stuff getting tossed out" agenda and the OM rant goons have repeated it so often that now 3/4 of tRant posters are accepting that as truth and now you go over there and see the "Well now that the LL violations will be thrown out you still have 15 more Level1s" threads. It really is ridiculous how many people fall for their ****. If a person can't tell fact from fiction then they need to stay away from message boards.

Nafoomers are delighting in the possibility of the NCAA and the SEC being added to RR's lawsuit. Please let it happen. It's public record that the NCAA lead investigator has already told Merkel to pound sand after his first request at retracting RR from the NOA.

Leo and Kobe, the NCAA, and the SEC are all calling their bluff. It's all gonna collapse like a house of cards.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

OM has one of the most segmented athletic departments in the SEC. They have about 5 Athletic Directors.

Bjork, title only
Archie Maning
Scruggs
Tuhey
Haley Barbour and every politician and north delta farmer.

I don't believe the NCAA sanctions will apply or cripple all 5 of these.
I predict cheating will continue.

Hey now not EVERY north delta farmer. Some of us are honest, decent folks**

 

[Shamoan]

i dont. just demonstrating that the bear logic is flawed.

 

[snoopdog]

Concerning the "sting" coming up with nothing...

I think that's part of RR's argument in his lawsuit to support his assertion that he didn't give anything - that the NCAA didn't come up with anything in that sting. It's reasonable to assume that, anyway.

But like I said, I bet that wasn't their first rodeo in RR's establishment.

Could it be that the NCAA had already gotten what they needed on a previous sting, then asked for Ole Miss' help in a second to see if Ole Miss was in cahoots with RR or not? Basically by coming up with nothing on the second sting, it confirmed to them that Ole Miss had tipped them off.

 

[mount lefroy]

I actually think the penalties are going to be so severe, it's going to shock them into line. Kind of like the SMU penalties did to their corrupt program, to a lesser extent. But if you're right, they will get the death penalty in a few years.

Kind of. But when SMU emerged from the penalties the conference was gone.

 

[tatedog]

My sources are now telling me that Donald Trump and Chuck Rounsaville swapped tapes. James Comey is in some deep **** let me tell you.

 

[Dawgpile]

"Four Star walkons" The campus is so beautiful...

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

This is the most delicious scenario ever.

1. A couple of years of on-field mediocrity, crappy recruiting, and no bowls while under the cloud of NCAA investigation
2. NCAA ruling....severe penalties...crippling
3. Three years in, the NCAA comes back in and investigates aGAIN
4. Further mediocrity due to the newer, bigger, black cloud
5. NCAA ruling...death penalty

Holy crap, that would be awesome.

THERE WILL BE NO POASTING OF PRON ON THIS HERE PAGE!!!!**

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

"Four Star WR walkons" The campus is so beautiful...

FIFY