Stony Brook head baseball coach Matt Senk to TSUN? (sarcasm)...
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he will still be the head coach at Ole Miss unless he retires, gets them on probation, or pulls a Sandusky.
but it would be kind of odd to fire the only guy in a major sport that is going to the NCAA tournament don't you think? Not to mention him being one of the most successful coaches they have ever had in the sport.
I made some polls about who was the best coach in this state. That stuff always interests me, because I like to hear the "why's". It also kind of shows you who knows what pretty quickly. It's REALLY easy to pick the D1 guy or whatever, and most don't know enough on everyone to make a completely accurate pick anyway, so it's not a great poll.<div>
</div><div>I made the poll on here because on another site, I had people jumping all over me when I said I thought it was Kinnison. Among some remarks: if he's so good, why's he still at a D2? How many players has he moved on to the majors?</div><div>
</div><div>I really don't think people always realize how MANY great coaches there are out there. Or players. And just being at a good program doesn't mean you're a good coach. Honestly, Pat Sullivan is one of the worst SEC coaches to me. His team is usually great, but they make stupid errors that he could easily correct. Like Vandy stealing 6 bases in an inning... he made no move to even go speak to his pitcher about keeping the guy on. He just watched it happen quietly. Maybe he didn't want to win, but that's embarrassing.</div><div>
</div><div>Stony Brook is a GOOD team. His kids make mistakes, but they still seem well-coached. I looked up a little of his bio. He seems to have been doing a great job there (obviously, we see that now). Love to see a story like that, and he deserves his credit.</div>
</div><div>I made the poll on here because on another site, I had people jumping all over me when I said I thought it was Kinnison. Among some remarks: if he's so good, why's he still at a D2? How many players has he moved on to the majors?</div><div>
</div><div>I really don't think people always realize how MANY great coaches there are out there. Or players. And just being at a good program doesn't mean you're a good coach. Honestly, Pat Sullivan is one of the worst SEC coaches to me. His team is usually great, but they make stupid errors that he could easily correct. Like Vandy stealing 6 bases in an inning... he made no move to even go speak to his pitcher about keeping the guy on. He just watched it happen quietly. Maybe he didn't want to win, but that's embarrassing.</div><div>
</div><div>Stony Brook is a GOOD team. His kids make mistakes, but they still seem well-coached. I looked up a little of his bio. He seems to have been doing a great job there (obviously, we see that now). Love to see a story like that, and he deserves his credit.</div>
He is the only coach in Mississippi history that has a national championship in baseball. I think he would have moved on except for the fact that he is a DSU alum and I think he sort of feels like that's where he is supposed to be after what happened to coach Marchant.
He was my second choice behind Cohen for head coach. They are both similar, but they have to operate under two different sets of standards. Kinnison can take nine guys, redshirt all of them, and develop them over five years. We have to find guys that are only going to stay three.
Kinnison has sent Brent Leach, Eli Whiteside, Edwin Maysonet, and Dusty Hughes to MLB. Maybe even more impressive, he has a ton of Division II All Americans.
He was my second choice behind Cohen for head coach. They are both similar, but they have to operate under two different sets of standards. Kinnison can take nine guys, redshirt all of them, and develop them over five years. We have to find guys that are only going to stay three.
Kinnison has sent Brent Leach, Eli Whiteside, Edwin Maysonet, and Dusty Hughes to MLB. Maybe even more impressive, he has a ton of Division II All Americans.
And it all comes down to personal philosophy, really. But it's ignorant to write anyone off just because they don't coach D1 or at an "elite school". I won't say all, but most of these guys that are pretty successful are that way because they can coach- just period. Good coaches can be found at any level. Whether they can recruit at the next level or not would be what you'd want to look at as far as D1- I'd like my chances with Kinnison. I know he's well-known in coaching circles. I also know he can spot talent and develop it. His knowledge of the game is fairly unquestionable.<div>
</div><div>And yes, you are correct on his reasons for not leaving. And I don't blame him.
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</div><div>Senk's probably another good example of this kind of guy, though I haven't followed him enough to be sure. But from just seeing his team this year, and reading a little- I'm sure he's as good as a lot of good coaches. He's just not in some D1 powerhouse. His success, up until this point, has been mostly relative. Does not mean he's not as good as the next guy.</div><div>
</div><div>There are a ton of great coaches and players out there, and they don't all end up where you'd think sometimes. And that's a great thing.</div> </div>
</div><div>And yes, you are correct on his reasons for not leaving. And I don't blame him.
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</div><div>Senk's probably another good example of this kind of guy, though I haven't followed him enough to be sure. But from just seeing his team this year, and reading a little- I'm sure he's as good as a lot of good coaches. He's just not in some D1 powerhouse. His success, up until this point, has been mostly relative. Does not mean he's not as good as the next guy.</div><div>
</div><div>There are a ton of great coaches and players out there, and they don't all end up where you'd think sometimes. And that's a great thing.</div> </div>
Todd4State said:
and the OM fans that I know are none too happy with Bianco the last couple of years ... much like our fans with Stans. Not making the SECT last year; only making it this year 'cause it expanded to 10; Bianco's head-to-head record against Cohen (1-6); plus ... no Omaha ... are the major reasons.
Think that 'if' Cohen gets the Dogs to Omaha next year, the OM AD may be forced to make a move.
Thoughts?
he's doing well enough that your comment makes sense, but after 12 yrs with the facilities and support he's gotten, one does wonder why he hasn't gotten us to omaha. the expectations of our baseball program have been elevated, much like ya'lls basketball under stans. this is to bianco's credit cause he's the guy who's done it, but at some point bianco is going to have to deliver. i'd be surprised if bjork pulled the trigger this year. ya'll gave stans, what 14 years? i'm glad somebody else has to make this decision cause it is tough.
No way you would fire him for anything he's done on or off the field. But he's been pretty frustrating for most UM fans. Like Stans, he's had a real good career, but always seems to find a way to come up just a little short. It really might be best for both him and for UM if he were to move on to another job. Sometimes when you've been in one place too long, things get stagnant and a change might be good for both sides. I really think it would have been best for everyone if Stans had taken the Clemson job. And it probably would have been best for Bianco and UM if he had taken the LSU job and y'all had promoted McDonnell. Still, you should be consistently good as long as Bianco is there.
being consistently bad........well maybe not quite.........but every fanbase's expectations grow. heck if saban goes 4 yrs without a NC at bama, there are going to be rumblings. bianco has gotten us to elite or near elite status as a program (i won't argue over my choice of terminology if someone disagrees) but that's no longer enough. and IF he or somebody starts getting us to omaha regularly, then at some point the question will become....how long do we tolerate not winning the NC? its the nature of the beast. problem is there's not really an option for him to move that i see. we're near the top of the pay scale and anybody who would match that is probably not going to hire him away. again just like ya'll with stansbury, it seems to me we're boxed in.