The bottom line is that we, as die hard UK football fans, want a real SEC program. I've been going to UK football games since 1978. I've forgotten more UK football than some of these pumpers have ever seen. And I know one thing for sure - not facing the actual reality of our situation is a guarantee of failure. That's how you get 40 years of optimism coinciding with 40 years of failure. We as fans have to see the BS we've been fed for what it is and demand better or this is never going to change. It sucks, it has always sucked, and now seeing the rival school less than 10 miles away from me in the Top 10 makes it suck even more. Sorry for the rant, there's a lot more to say, but some of you people have to raise your expectations or this shat is never going to change.
@Poetax is no pumper...but he doesn't take kindly to bashing the players. Yes, our fans do it... both basketball and football.
I agree Stoops should have kept his mouth shut until a few more games were won; but, he hasn't made many good post game comments in four years...why start now?
I have said for the past 25-30 years that the toxic environment in Lexington makes it even more difficult to turn the program around. This was the wrong time for Stoops to make this statement but what was said is 1000% true.
just a tad...lolI agree. Poe is good people. A bit casual for my taste but he's been with uk for years and is probably just battered a bit by the product
His Jr. Poe is a bit more aggressive.
Yeah, it does a lot of good to ***** about the past.Instead of running his mouth he should have beaten Southern Miss.
Fuzz, I'm almost at a loss for how to respond. Learn from the past? I've learned from the past. I'm glad we won tonight, I really am. But I can see where this thing is heading and it isn't a happy ending. Of course, there is a man available who's a virtual guarantee to win here but I'm going to be fed some BS excuse why we can't bring him in. Just like I was fed a BS excuse why we couldn't hire Bobby Petrino four years ago. We need to start viewing football the way we do basketball. And that's not a knock on basketball, I love UK basketball. But if the situation were reversed we'd have hired Bobby Petrino as basketball coach because we are simply not willing to tolerate losing at basketball. That's how U of L views BOTH sports. We have to start doing the same damn thing.Yeah, it does a lot of good to ***** about the past.
Should of, didn't. Move on, learn from the past and move forward.
Few people, especially those on this board know what constitutes "constructive criticism".
First, name me an AD who has made more than one hire that hasn't made a bad hire? How many bad hires did Alabama make before they got to Saban? Has IU made a good bb hire since Knight? Texas that has all the tradition, money, in state talent. How many other ADs have hired FB coaches at UK and been successful doing so?I don't know of any fan base in the county that has dealt with mediocrity more than UK. We have an AD that has made a horrible BB hire at the mecca of college BB and one and more than likely two bad football hires and he still has a job. Doesnt seem like expectations are too high here.
Who is this available demigod who is "guarenteed to win"?Fuzz, I'm almost at a loss for how to respond. Learn from the past? I've learned from the past. I'm glad we won tonight, I really am. But I can see where this thing is heading and it isn't a happy ending. Of course, there is a man available who's a virtual guarantee to win here but I'm going to be fed some BS excuse why we can't bring him in. Just like I was fed a BS excuse why we couldn't hire Bobby Petrino four years ago. We need to start viewing football the way we do basketball. And that's not a knock on basketball, I love UK basketball. But if the situation were reversed we'd have hired Bobby Petrino as basketball coach because we are simply not willing to tolerate losing at basketball. That's how U of L views BOTH sports. We have to start doing the same damn thing.
Indiana's basketball hires may not have been the best but it wasn't for lack of effort. Kelvin Sampson looked really good at the time and Tom Crean had been very successful at a lesser program, in fact, I remember some people wanting him at UK. Same thing at Texas - you can question the wisdom but not the effort. There was was good reason to hire the coaches they've hired. But we passed on Bobby Petrino to hire Mark Stoops. If you do something that stupid you're not even trying.First, name me an AD who has made more than one hire that hasn't made a bad hire? How many bad hires did Alabama make before they got to Saban? Has IU made a good bb hire since Knight? Texas that has all the tradition, money, in state talent. How many other ADs have hired FB coaches at UK and been successful doing so?
What is the common denominator in this equation?
Art Briles. He'll be coaching somewhere next year. And he'll win, probably sooner rather than later. Sadly, I doubt it will be at UK.Who is this available demigod who is "guarenteed to win"?
Surely you aren't going to say Les Miles who struggled with probably the second most talent in the country.
First, name me an AD who has made more than one hire that hasn't made a bad hire? How many bad hires did Alabama make before they got to Saban? Has IU made a good bb hire since Knight? Texas that has all the tradition, money, in state talent. How many other ADs have hired FB coaches at UK and been successful doing so?
What is the common denominator in this equation?
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Hates that we didn't hire Bobby Petrino and now is sure that Art Briles will be passed on. Yes, let's hire people that will create headlines on how the University hired such class coaches. Oh wait, I can hear your comeback now "At least they win!".Art Briles. He'll be coaching somewhere next year. And he'll win, probably sooner rather than later. Sadly, I doubt it will be at UK.
what will the ath dept code-word be next week? this week's appears to be 'toxic'.I have said for the past 25-30 years that the toxic environment in Lexington makes it even more difficult to turn the program around. This was the wrong time for Stoops to make this statement but what was said is 1000% true.
he's bitching after a win about the fans bitching after a win.If fans attacking the players hurts them come game days, then they have a weak mentality. Every school has negative fans, yet it doesn't seem to hurt many schools but ours apparently.
I don't understand why he would say this after a win. Thats my main problem with the comment.
Nobody is responsible for your attitude other than you. Blaming others for your shortcomings is typical losers mentality.The excuse that past AD's have failed to change the football program is wearing real thin in regards to Mitch. At no time in UK Football's past has the fan base paid more and actually gotten less.
I'm SICK of being told that UK Football is what it is and then fed a line from the AD that we are actually trying to create a winning football program. All he's done is take the money generated by football and elevated EVERY other sport BUT football.
The K-Fund ponzi scheme has done NOTHING to change the fact that UK Football has not had a winning SEC record since it's inception.
It's ridiculous that a coach can spout off to a SUPER LOYAL fan base that has supported his sub-par coached team since he was named HC.
Our AD is TOTALLY responsible for the attitude our fans have toward the problems he has FAILED to correct!!
What a joke. That wasn't the headline when U of L beat Florida State by 43 points. But don't undermine your agenda with accuracy Mitch.HAHAHAHAHAHA. Hates that we didn't hire Bobby Petrino and now is sure that Art Briles will be passed on. Yes, let's hire people that will create headlines on how the University hired such class coaches. Oh wait, I can hear your comeback now "At least they win!".
Seriously. Just stop.
Ok blame him stay off the players ***You can always tell when a coach is about to be removed. They blame officials, fans, and culture.
I'll tell him what. You donate your insane contract back to uk, because you haven't earned it. Or get your *** in gear, blame yourself for the product on the field.
Fans react to YOU, the players are a product of you.
Piss *** poor look for stoops. Not surprised.
Oh my, I was so close in my expected retort from you. Predictable.What a joke. That wasn't the headline when U of L beat Florida State by 43 points. But don't undermine your agenda with accuracy Mitch.
You may have predicted it - although that's probably a lie - but you can't refute it. Pathetic.Oh my, I was so close in my expected retort from you. Predictable.
Again, please stop.
Time will tell. I'll give Jurich credit, he made a gutsy call. Time will tell if egg will be on his face in a few years.You may have predicted it - although that's probably a lie - but you can't refute it. Pathetic.
Nobody is responsible for your attitude other than you. Blaming others for your shortcomings is typical losers mentality.
Amen. You and me both. Prove me wrong and I'll celebrate up one side of Nicholasville Road and down the other.Winners take the derogatory opinions of others and use them as motivation to prove them wrong. Just ONCE, I'd LOVE to be proven wrong by those running our football program!!
Where are Vandy and SC today?Our AD is the one with a "losers mentality". He and now his HC are trying to convince themselves that it's our SUPER LOYAL fan's fault that they can't take UK Football to levels seen by Missouri, South Carolina and even freakin Vandy.
We are what our record says we are. The ones "RESPONSIBLE" for that record are Mitch and Mark! Which in turn has given our fans an "ATTITUDE"!!
What responsibility? Catben isn't the AD or the football coach. And probably isn't being paid like it.Where are Vandy and SC today?
Where is Missouri for that matter?
Bet you would have lost a nut to hire Franklin a few years ago.
You have an "ATTITUDE" because you're a whiny baby that pouts. You just want to blame it on someone else so you can try and deflect that responsibility.
Where are Vandy and SC today?
Where is Missouri for that matter?
Bet you would have lost a nut to hire Franklin a few years ago.
You have an "ATTITUDE" because you're a whiny baby that pouts. You just want to blame it on someone else so you can try and deflect that responsibility.
He could have avoided that by not doing such a shatty job, in his 4th year, of preparing his football team - thereby not losing to Southern Miss or looking like a hot pile of steamy garbage against Florida. The only person he should be mad at is the one he sees in the mirror.To be fair to Stoops, UK fans were discussing his imminent demise before the USC game. A lot of posters (myself included) took part in that, whether right or wrong. I'd be mad too.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Hates that we didn't hire Bobby Petrino and now is sure that Art Briles will be passed on. Yes, let's hire people that will create headlines on how the University hired such class coaches. Oh wait, I can hear your comeback now "At least they win!".
Seriously. Just stop.
Here is a list of coaches that benefited from attacking the fanbase.
1.
*coolcat post earlier
Says the man who addresses nothing specific in my post nor cites anything personal in the aforementioned thread. You must be in wading pool.
Oh come on....go through these message boards and you'll find plenty of examples. Don't be a complete tool.Where have players been personally attacked?