Stoops now blaming the fans?

willyclyde

All-American
Feb 25, 2007
5,917
8,898
0
Sad thing is the majority of those "fans" attacking players are more than likely trolls and/or people who claim to be fans but really could give a **** less. Social media is not good for a lot of things.
 
  • Like
Reactions: morgousky

morgousky

Heisman
Sep 5, 2009
23,959
43,170
0
The bottom line is that we, as die hard UK football fans, want a real SEC program. I've been going to UK football games since 1978. I've forgotten more UK football than some of these pumpers have ever seen. And I know one thing for sure - not facing the actual reality of our situation is a guarantee of failure. That's how you get 40 years of optimism coinciding with 40 years of failure. We as fans have to see the BS we've been fed for what it is and demand better or this is never going to change. It sucks, it has always sucked, and now seeing the rival school less than 10 miles away from me in the Top 10 makes it suck even more. Sorry for the rant, there's a lot more to say, but some of you people have to raise your expectations or this shat is never going to change.

I mean, this is the main point.

Some of these guys only remember the brooks years and don't get it. But I promise them, they will sound like you and I in another 10 years when uk has been to a few toilet bowls and Petrino is winning huge.

They will see in time. You can't fix the stupidity of youth.
 
  • Like
Reactions: gojvc

morgousky

Heisman
Sep 5, 2009
23,959
43,170
0
@Poetax is no pumper...but he doesn't take kindly to bashing the players. Yes, our fans do it... both basketball and football.
I agree Stoops should have kept his mouth shut until a few more games were won; but, he hasn't made many good post game comments in four years...why start now?

I agree. Poe is good people. A bit casual for my taste but he's been with uk for years and is probably just battered a bit by the product

His Jr. Poe is a bit more aggressive.
 

51stFan

Junior
Dec 30, 2005
405
341
0
I have said for the past 25-30 years that the toxic environment in Lexington makes it even more difficult to turn the program around. This was the wrong time for Stoops to make this statement but what was said is 1000% true.

I don't know of any fan base in the county that has dealt with mediocrity more than UK. We have an AD that has made a horrible BB hire at the mecca of college BB and one and more than likely two bad football hires and he still has a job. Doesnt seem like expectations are too high here.
 
  • Like
Reactions: gojvc and morgousky

ScrewDuke1

Hall of Famer
Jul 29, 2016
41,113
152,914
113
If fans attacking the players hurts them come game days, then they have a weak mentality. Every school has negative fans, yet it doesn't seem to hurt many schools but ours apparently.

I don't understand why he would say this after a win. Thats my main problem with the comment.
 
Last edited:

rqa

All-Conference
Sep 10, 2002
3,011
1,668
0
Instead of running his mouth he should have beaten Southern Miss.
Yeah, it does a lot of good to ***** about the past.
Should of, didn't. Move on, learn from the past and move forward.
 

gojvc

All-American
Feb 5, 2005
28,744
7,273
0
Yeah, it does a lot of good to ***** about the past.
Should of, didn't. Move on, learn from the past and move forward.
Fuzz, I'm almost at a loss for how to respond. Learn from the past? I've learned from the past. I'm glad we won tonight, I really am. But I can see where this thing is heading and it isn't a happy ending. Of course, there is a man available who's a virtual guarantee to win here but I'm going to be fed some BS excuse why we can't bring him in. Just like I was fed a BS excuse why we couldn't hire Bobby Petrino four years ago. We need to start viewing football the way we do basketball. And that's not a knock on basketball, I love UK basketball. But if the situation were reversed we'd have hired Bobby Petrino as basketball coach because we are simply not willing to tolerate losing at basketball. That's how U of L views BOTH sports. We have to start doing the same damn thing.
 

rqa

All-Conference
Sep 10, 2002
3,011
1,668
0
I don't know of any fan base in the county that has dealt with mediocrity more than UK. We have an AD that has made a horrible BB hire at the mecca of college BB and one and more than likely two bad football hires and he still has a job. Doesnt seem like expectations are too high here.
First, name me an AD who has made more than one hire that hasn't made a bad hire? How many bad hires did Alabama make before they got to Saban? Has IU made a good bb hire since Knight? Texas that has all the tradition, money, in state talent. How many other ADs have hired FB coaches at UK and been successful doing so?
What is the common denominator in this equation?
 

rqa

All-Conference
Sep 10, 2002
3,011
1,668
0
Fuzz, I'm almost at a loss for how to respond. Learn from the past? I've learned from the past. I'm glad we won tonight, I really am. But I can see where this thing is heading and it isn't a happy ending. Of course, there is a man available who's a virtual guarantee to win here but I'm going to be fed some BS excuse why we can't bring him in. Just like I was fed a BS excuse why we couldn't hire Bobby Petrino four years ago. We need to start viewing football the way we do basketball. And that's not a knock on basketball, I love UK basketball. But if the situation were reversed we'd have hired Bobby Petrino as basketball coach because we are simply not willing to tolerate losing at basketball. That's how U of L views BOTH sports. We have to start doing the same damn thing.
Who is this available demigod who is "guarenteed to win"?
Surely you aren't going to say Les Miles who struggled with probably the second most talent in the country.
 

gojvc

All-American
Feb 5, 2005
28,744
7,273
0
First, name me an AD who has made more than one hire that hasn't made a bad hire? How many bad hires did Alabama make before they got to Saban? Has IU made a good bb hire since Knight? Texas that has all the tradition, money, in state talent. How many other ADs have hired FB coaches at UK and been successful doing so?
What is the common denominator in this equation?
Indiana's basketball hires may not have been the best but it wasn't for lack of effort. Kelvin Sampson looked really good at the time and Tom Crean had been very successful at a lesser program, in fact, I remember some people wanting him at UK. Same thing at Texas - you can question the wisdom but not the effort. There was was good reason to hire the coaches they've hired. But we passed on Bobby Petrino to hire Mark Stoops. If you do something that stupid you're not even trying.
 

gojvc

All-American
Feb 5, 2005
28,744
7,273
0
Who is this available demigod who is "guarenteed to win"?
Surely you aren't going to say Les Miles who struggled with probably the second most talent in the country.
Art Briles. He'll be coaching somewhere next year. And he'll win, probably sooner rather than later. Sadly, I doubt it will be at UK.
 

51stFan

Junior
Dec 30, 2005
405
341
0
First, name me an AD who has made more than one hire that hasn't made a bad hire? How many bad hires did Alabama make before they got to Saban? Has IU made a good bb hire since Knight? Texas that has all the tradition, money, in state talent. How many other ADs have hired FB coaches at UK and been successful doing so?
What is the common denominator in this equation?

Two of the three teams you have mentioned have made AD changes due to what you are trying to argue. MB doesn't only have Joker and Stoops, he also pulled an Indiana and hired BCG after he beat UofL.
 
  • Like
Reactions: morgousky
Sep 13, 2003
23,905
33,655
0
The excuse that past AD's have failed to change the football program is wearing real thin in regards to Mitch. At no time in UK Football's past has the fan base paid more and actually gotten less.

I'm SICK of being told that UK Football is what it is and then fed a line from the AD that we are actually trying to create a winning football program. All he's done is take the money generated by football and elevated EVERY other sport BUT football.

The K-Fund ponzi scheme has done NOTHING to change the fact that UK Football has not had a winning SEC record since it's inception.

It's ridiculous that a coach can spout off to a SUPER LOYAL fan base that has supported his sub-par coached team since he was named HC.

Our AD is TOTALLY responsible for the attitude our fans have toward the problems he has FAILED to correct!!
 

Xception

Heisman
Apr 17, 2007
26,407
22,344
0
I've never seen so much anger because we won today and it was evident by the posts . Then the coach doesn't even criticize the fan base but asks that the negativity be channeled to the staff and the toxic fans are upset about that . Stop acting so indignant, everybody knows you are going to be angry at a win , loss , tie , bowl , no bowl or any other situation .

At this point anything other than firing will not make the disgruntled satisfied . So quit acting like Stoops did you a wrong when you weren't going to be happy under any circumstance . Well if Stoops is not retained by chance then I'm certain coaches will be eager to sign up with a lifetime loser that has a overly negative fan base , should work out well .
 
  • Like
Reactions: Deeeefense and rqa

CatsFanatic07

Freshman
Feb 17, 2007
38
64
0
Art Briles. He'll be coaching somewhere next year. And he'll win, probably sooner rather than later. Sadly, I doubt it will be at UK.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Hates that we didn't hire Bobby Petrino and now is sure that Art Briles will be passed on. Yes, let's hire people that will create headlines on how the University hired such class coaches. Oh wait, I can hear your comeback now "At least they win!".

Seriously. Just stop.
 

Shavers48

All-Conference
Sep 2, 2011
2,919
1,345
0
I have said for the past 25-30 years that the toxic environment in Lexington makes it even more difficult to turn the program around. This was the wrong time for Stoops to make this statement but what was said is 1000% true.
what will the ath dept code-word be next week? this week's appears to be 'toxic'.
 
  • Like
Reactions: morgousky

Shavers48

All-Conference
Sep 2, 2011
2,919
1,345
0
If fans attacking the players hurts them come game days, then they have a weak mentality. Every school has negative fans, yet it doesn't seem to hurt many schools but ours apparently.

I don't understand why he would say this after a win. Thats my main problem with the comment.
he's bitching after a win about the fans bitching after a win.
 

rqa

All-Conference
Sep 10, 2002
3,011
1,668
0
The excuse that past AD's have failed to change the football program is wearing real thin in regards to Mitch. At no time in UK Football's past has the fan base paid more and actually gotten less.

I'm SICK of being told that UK Football is what it is and then fed a line from the AD that we are actually trying to create a winning football program. All he's done is take the money generated by football and elevated EVERY other sport BUT football.

The K-Fund ponzi scheme has done NOTHING to change the fact that UK Football has not had a winning SEC record since it's inception.

It's ridiculous that a coach can spout off to a SUPER LOYAL fan base that has supported his sub-par coached team since he was named HC.

Our AD is TOTALLY responsible for the attitude our fans have toward the problems he has FAILED to correct!!
Nobody is responsible for your attitude other than you. Blaming others for your shortcomings is typical losers mentality.
 

gojvc

All-American
Feb 5, 2005
28,744
7,273
0
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Hates that we didn't hire Bobby Petrino and now is sure that Art Briles will be passed on. Yes, let's hire people that will create headlines on how the University hired such class coaches. Oh wait, I can hear your comeback now "At least they win!".

Seriously. Just stop.
What a joke. That wasn't the headline when U of L beat Florida State by 43 points. But don't undermine your agenda with accuracy Mitch.
 

Burgcatfan

Senior
Jun 12, 2016
397
500
0
You can always tell when a coach is about to be removed. They blame officials, fans, and culture.

I'll tell him what. You donate your insane contract back to uk, because you haven't earned it. Or get your *** in gear, blame yourself for the product on the field.

Fans react to YOU, the players are a product of you.

Piss *** poor look for stoops. Not surprised.
Ok blame him stay off the players ***
 

CatsFanatic07

Freshman
Feb 17, 2007
38
64
0
What a joke. That wasn't the headline when U of L beat Florida State by 43 points. But don't undermine your agenda with accuracy Mitch.
Oh my, I was so close in my expected retort from you. Predictable.

Again, please stop.
 
Sep 13, 2003
23,905
33,655
0
Nobody is responsible for your attitude other than you. Blaming others for your shortcomings is typical losers mentality.

Our AD is the one with a "losers mentality". He and now his HC are trying to convince themselves that it's our SUPER LOYAL fan's fault that they can't take UK Football to levels seen by Missouri, South Carolina and even freakin Vandy.

We are what our record says we are. The ones "RESPONSIBLE" for that record are Mitch and Mark! Which in turn has given our fans an "ATTITUDE"!!
 
Sep 13, 2003
23,905
33,655
0
Winners take the derogatory opinions of others and use them as motivation to prove them wrong. Just ONCE, I'd LOVE to be proven wrong by those running our football program!!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Aike

gojvc

All-American
Feb 5, 2005
28,744
7,273
0
Winners take the derogatory opinions of others and use them as motivation to prove them wrong. Just ONCE, I'd LOVE to be proven wrong by those running our football program!!
Amen. You and me both. Prove me wrong and I'll celebrate up one side of Nicholasville Road and down the other.
 
  • Like
Reactions: richbrookstomato

rqa

All-Conference
Sep 10, 2002
3,011
1,668
0
Our AD is the one with a "losers mentality". He and now his HC are trying to convince themselves that it's our SUPER LOYAL fan's fault that they can't take UK Football to levels seen by Missouri, South Carolina and even freakin Vandy.

We are what our record says we are. The ones "RESPONSIBLE" for that record are Mitch and Mark! Which in turn has given our fans an "ATTITUDE"!!
Where are Vandy and SC today?
Where is Missouri for that matter?

Bet you would have lost a nut to hire Franklin a few years ago.

You have an "ATTITUDE" because you're a whiny baby that pouts. You just want to blame it on someone else so you can try and deflect that responsibility.
 

gojvc

All-American
Feb 5, 2005
28,744
7,273
0
Where are Vandy and SC today?
Where is Missouri for that matter?

Bet you would have lost a nut to hire Franklin a few years ago.

You have an "ATTITUDE" because you're a whiny baby that pouts. You just want to blame it on someone else so you can try and deflect that responsibility.
What responsibility? Catben isn't the AD or the football coach. And probably isn't being paid like it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: richbrookstomato

JBHolmesfan

All-Conference
Jul 23, 2009
8,181
4,747
0
To be fair to Stoops, UK fans were discussing his imminent demise before the USC game. A lot of posters (myself included) took part in that, whether right or wrong. I'd be mad too.
 
Sep 13, 2003
23,905
33,655
0
How am I, a fan "responsible" for the crappy way Mitch has run our football program?

I'm not. You are Mitch's lap dog and always come running to his defense when he's called out for it. YOU are the "Whiny Baby" when it comes to holding Mitch accountable for the problems in our football program.

You're the one who's "lost a nut" for the AD.

I would LOVE for UK Football to contend for an SEC East title. Not doing so is TOTALLY on the people running our football program. No excuse for not reaching a level that Missouri has reached. No matter how many ways YOU try and spin it.

I am hoping with every passing day that UK Football CAN AND WILL PROVE ME WRONG!!

Now, PAY YOUR DEBT FUZZ!!!

Where are Vandy and SC today?
Where is Missouri for that matter?

Bet you would have lost a nut to hire Franklin a few years ago.

You have an "ATTITUDE" because you're a whiny baby that pouts. You just want to blame it on someone else so you can try and deflect that responsibility.
 

gojvc

All-American
Feb 5, 2005
28,744
7,273
0
To be fair to Stoops, UK fans were discussing his imminent demise before the USC game. A lot of posters (myself included) took part in that, whether right or wrong. I'd be mad too.
He could have avoided that by not doing such a shatty job, in his 4th year, of preparing his football team - thereby not losing to Southern Miss or looking like a hot pile of steamy garbage against Florida. The only person he should be mad at is the one he sees in the mirror.
 

School boy

All-Conference
Oct 29, 2007
5,506
3,865
0
This is the worst coach in the SEC by far and ***** the bed on teams we should beat but his lazy butt has the right to blame fans? Really? HOW MUCH LONGER ARE WE GOING TO PUT UP WITH MITCH!!!!!??????????
 

Randy Bob

All-Conference
Jun 14, 2009
7,203
3,917
113
Stoops is making millions a yr and just goes to show he has no leadership ability when you blame someone else for your troubles..
 

51stFan

Junior
Dec 30, 2005
405
341
0
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Hates that we didn't hire Bobby Petrino and now is sure that Art Briles will be passed on. Yes, let's hire people that will create headlines on how the University hired such class coaches. Oh wait, I can hear your comeback now "At least they win!".

Seriously. Just stop.

I'm sure there is a whole lot of UofL fans thinking about how embarrassing it is to be one of the top teams in the country. Sad that the ESPNs don't want to acknowledge the wins. All they want to talk about is Petrino and that motorcycle.

Oh. My bad, they quit talking about that stuff about a week after he was hired. The only ones mentioning it now are a few Kentucky fans trying to justify their AD not hiring him.
 

Beatle Bum

Heisman
Sep 1, 2002
39,951
60,400
113
Says the man who addresses nothing specific in my post nor cites anything personal in the aforementioned thread. You must be in wading pool.

How more specific do I need to be for you to understand? Let me know and I will attempt to break it down for you from the wading pool.