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Uncoach

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Lots of information in this article.




The death of Renee Nicole Good has been widely described as a sudden and shocking event. It should not be described that way. Good had been immersed for weeks in an organized activist network explicitly dedicated to disrupting federal immigration enforcement. That network, operating under the name ICE Watch, does not merely observe or document law enforcement activity. It trains participants to interfere physically, to refuse lawful commands, to block vehicles, to use their own vehicles as tools of obstruction, and to create scenes designed to generate viral outrage. This is not incidental to the movement. It is central to its strategy.
 

BigWill

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He shot her while he was no longer in danger. All the shots were from the side. He didn't fear for his life he was angry. If he was so traumatized, why did he stand in front of the car which is against police protocol.

There are hundreds of traffic stop videos where the perpetrator takes off after being stopped and the police have to jump out of the way or are bumped. You know how many of the officers fired? Zero.
You continue to spit and yell, about of what you have no idea.
 

BigWill

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She said to the officer just seconds before he shot her "I am not mad at you." How exactly is that taunting the officer? Police are held to a higher standard than the general public. ICE agents should be descalating a situation not making it worse. In this case, the ICE agents were pulling at her door which is an illegal search. The shooter placed himself in a dangerous situation which generally prevents a claim of self defense. He pulled out his gun before she even moved. Those agents behaved liked untrained buffoons and are responsible for the escalation of the situation. It is on them
Criminals don't lie ever to Law Enforcement ?

Story; NJSP on Turnpike , I get radio call to check on traffic jam on 3 lane section. I travel there on shoulder for about 5 miles, stop and go.

I get to the front of the jam and there is one car, weaving over ALL 3 lanes, with everyone afraid to pass.
I get out and have all 3 lanes stop ! Then I run the car down. I see a guy barely looking over the wheel, window down, Clearly a Drunk barely awake.at the wheel .

I reach inside the open window and put the car in Park on the column. My wristwatch band breaks on the column. I reach in and pull the drunk driver out thru the open window, drag him onto the grass berm. He struggles and I give him a few pops, handcuff him, and move the car to the shoulder.

Trucker yells over to me; "Hit him a few times for me Trooper ! I've been following him for 10 miles !"
 

BigWill

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Legally it does not matter that the woman is there. An officer cannot put himself in a dangerous situation and claim self defense. The ICE agent had a video of her face and the license plate. There was no reason for him to put himself in front of the car with his gun drawn for a misdemeanor offense. He started to draw his gun while she was in reverse and he made the decision to kill at that point. He could have moved to the side while she was in reverse but he decided to pull his gun instead. Good luck with the self defense strategy!
He should have let her go. They had the information needed to have her arrested.

Here is the DOJ policy on deadly force

Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.
Thank you for PROVING the incident. You are a treasure for the board.
 

bung23

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Legally it does not matter that the woman is there. An officer cannot put himself in a dangerous situation and claim self defense. The ICE agent had a video of her face and the license plate. There was no reason for him to put himself in front of the car with his gun drawn for a misdemeanor offense. He started to draw his gun while she was in reverse and he made the decision to kill at that point. He could have moved to the side while she was in reverse but he decided to pull his gun instead. Good luck with the self defense strategy!
He should have let her go. They had the information needed to have her arrested.

Here is the DOJ policy on deadly force

Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.
Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others

You are proven wrong by your own post. Perfect example of your deranged liberal, communist mind.