Sweet ESPN OTL turns into a State bashfest.
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They were basically having a roundtable discussion concerning conference expansion with Andy Katz, Joe Schad, Paul Finebaum, and an editor from the Huffington Post.
Basically, towards the end of the conversation, Andy Katz made the point that some schools were lucky to be included in these major conferences. He then said, "Schools like Washington State and Mississippi State are lucky to be attached to the Pac 10 and the SEC."
Paul Finebaum responded with something to the effect of, "You're right and you can add Vanderbilt to that list as they don't bring anything besides a GPA."
Katz wasn't finished. He came back with, "Without Mississippi State's attachment to the SEC, they're left out in the cold."
To which Finebaum laughed and said, "Coming back to Starkville any time soon, Andy?"
I don't really know why or how Katz came up with State, but I really feel like it was more a stab at Finebaum who was his general douche-self and made some backhanded comments towards Katz about how basketball and the other sports don't matter. Which is partially true in the discussion.
Basically, towards the end of the conversation, Andy Katz made the point that some schools were lucky to be included in these major conferences. He then said, "Schools like Washington State and Mississippi State are lucky to be attached to the Pac 10 and the SEC."
Paul Finebaum responded with something to the effect of, "You're right and you can add Vanderbilt to that list as they don't bring anything besides a GPA."
Katz wasn't finished. He came back with, "Without Mississippi State's attachment to the SEC, they're left out in the cold."
To which Finebaum laughed and said, "Coming back to Starkville any time soon, Andy?"
I don't really know why or how Katz came up with State, but I really feel like it was more a stab at Finebaum who was his general douche-self and made some backhanded comments towards Katz about how basketball and the other sports don't matter. Which is partially true in the discussion.
<17> em ...lets send that $17 mil back we just got from them.
How about we actually achieve something and then they might talk good about us..
Quick..someone send them the Eco-Car press release!!!
How about we actually achieve something and then they might talk good about us..
Quick..someone send them the Eco-Car press release!!!
We havent done anything to earn our keep in the conference lately.
BTW..thanks for the recap Virgil
BTW..thanks for the recap Virgil
They don't have a much bigger budget and haven't won anything in the SEC since integration to speak of. Just don't see how we are everyone's whipping boy without them being mentioned in the same sentence. Granted they've been better than us in football the last several years but we've just had our worst 10 year stretch ever so that's not saying much.
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OXFORD, Miss. - With Southeastern Conference
schedules concluded for the 2009-10 athletics season, Ole Miss finished
with high marks across all sports.</p>
In men's sports, the Rebels ranked first among SEC Western Division
teams and second overall in the annual SEC All-Sports rankings
conducted by the New York Times Regional Newspaper Group, which
includes 14 papers throughout the Southeast. Points are awarded to
schools based on their teams' regular-season finishes, and each
university's point total is divided by the number of sports it fields.</p>
Among all sports, Ole Miss finished sixth in the trophy standings, ranking third among SEC West schools.</p>
Every Rebel men's team finished in the top half of the conference
standings this year, including a second-place overall finish by the
golf team and a fourth-place finish by the football and basketball
teams. Andy Kennedy's basketball squad and Billy Chadwick's tennis team claimed SEC West titles in 2010.</p>
On the women's side, Ole Miss had strong years in both tennis and
soccer, which finished second and third overall in the conference,
respectively. Mark Beyers' tennis team was crowned SEC West Champion for the first time since 2005.</p>
The Florida Gators claimed the SEC All-Sports trophy, while Georgia,
Tennessee, LSU and Auburn rounded out the top five. After Ole Miss, the
order went Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, South Carolina and
Mississippi State.</p>
Ole Miss also racked up a number of postseason berths, individual
champions and academic accolades in 2009-10, with still more to come as
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OXFORD, Miss. - With Southeastern Conference
schedules concluded for the 2009-10 athletics season, Ole Miss finished
with high marks across all sports.</p>
In men's sports, the Rebels ranked first among SEC Western Division
teams and second overall in the annual SEC All-Sports rankings
conducted by the New York Times Regional Newspaper Group, which
includes 14 papers throughout the Southeast. Points are awarded to
schools based on their teams' regular-season finishes, and each
university's point total is divided by the number of sports it fields.</p>
Among all sports, Ole Miss finished sixth in the trophy standings, ranking third among SEC West schools.</p>
Every Rebel men's team finished in the top half of the conference
standings this year, including a second-place overall finish by the
golf team and a fourth-place finish by the football and basketball
teams. Andy Kennedy's basketball squad and Billy Chadwick's tennis team claimed SEC West titles in 2010.</p>
On the women's side, Ole Miss had strong years in both tennis and
soccer, which finished second and third overall in the conference,
respectively. Mark Beyers' tennis team was crowned SEC West Champion for the first time since 2005.</p>
The Florida Gators claimed the SEC All-Sports trophy, while Georgia,
Tennessee, LSU and Auburn rounded out the top five. After Ole Miss, the
order went Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, South Carolina and
Mississippi State.</p>
Ole Miss also racked up a number of postseason berths, individual
champions and academic accolades in 2009-10, with still more to come as
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Seriously?
If they were to kick us out they have to kick out all Kentucky sports except basketball, all Ole Miss sports except baseball, Vanderbilt, South Carolina except baseball, etc...
We're a founding institution of the SEC we aint going anywhere unless the big boys want to leave and join the Big 12 ACC or some other conference...
Don't think for a second that that couldn'thappen. The old WAC had a rule that no member could be kicked out. The 8 big schools simply told the 8 smaller schools thatthey were leaving to form the MWC. I don't think it's going to happen, but if themoney's right, it could. If it does, expect to see a new conference that looks something like this:Dawgfan61 said:
East
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
North Carolina
Kentucky
Virginia Tech or Florida St.
West
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
They'd get all the benefits of conference expansion and would only have to share the revenue 12 ways instead of 16. If I were the AD at one of the big SEC schools, I can promise you this scenario has crossed my mind. They could go from $17M per school SEC shared revenue to $30M per school new conference shared revenue.
opie, when the %%%* has um been to atlanta? ya'll haven't been toomaha in damned near 40 years and NEVER made it to the final 4. you win two cotton bowls against two weak assed teams that could of cared less about being in dallas. hell you have swizel britches manning @ home against lsu playing for all the marbles and he TRIPS over his own %%+%++% feet. now let's look @ bianco ball a second. you have 3 or 4 regionals @ home that had some ****** weak *** teams and manage to have i think THREE super regionals @ home and get your *** handed to you ALL THREE TIMES. and still still have the nerve to ***** about the tough competition in this games ie texas. now comes the old "well at least we made it to the bowls, regionals, super regionals etc... yeah right, we had a goddamned idiot for five years coaching football and a sad sad little man busy %%+%++% up our baseball program. by the way thanksLT you sack of ****. it's that ole miss attitude you cocksuckers have that make you bastards so %%+%++% easy to hate. you made mention of um's standing in past athletic competition as being way ahead of msu. have you looked @ your %%+%++% football schedule for 2010? jacksonville state, fresno state, tulane, ul lafayette, vandy and ky. why are ya'll going to bother to even %%+%++% play? ya'll can go to hell.
sane person in America who would trade OM sport's history for MSU's. In fact, there's probably only a handful of division one schools in the nation who would even give it a second thought before rejecting the idea.
There's a reason these commentaries from ESPN and others periodically appear regarding MSU. Sorry, but it is what it is. Don't blame the messenger. I feel your pain.
There's a reason these commentaries from ESPN and others periodically appear regarding MSU. Sorry, but it is what it is. Don't blame the messenger. I feel your pain.
I'll be glad when the Rebs get knocked back down as they get farther from Orgeron's BYUM/adoptee recruiting. You'd think they had won back to back SEC Championships in football with the way they've been talking the past year or two. Last season they went 4-4 in the SEC, but even Croom was able to accomplish that. Going back three years, they've won the same number of SEC games that MSU has.
chesusdog, you are correct about the atrocious grammer.it was a combination of to much sebastiani ( 2006 vintage) and just a touch of my disdain for our um brethren. my sincerest apologies sir or madam.
Unfortunately, I have the bad feeling it's being looked into behind the scenes. It only makes sense from a money perspective if you are the SEC powers. There is no doubt we would be on the cut list if this were to happen.
The only thing that makes me feel a little better that this is not happening is that there have been no rumors regarding such to my knowledge. Even though a move like this would be kept on the DL with a lot of back room dealings, somewhere along the way somebody would let the secret out. Additionally, for it to work, you would have to essentially have all involved parties on board and make the change over night. There would be far too much resistance by the burned SEC programs and the other raided conferences just a pure reaction to keeping that beast of a conference from being formed.
It could be done, but I'm thinking (hoping) the logistics of it make it unlikely.
The only thing that makes me feel a little better that this is not happening is that there have been no rumors regarding such to my knowledge. Even though a move like this would be kept on the DL with a lot of back room dealings, somewhere along the way somebody would let the secret out. Additionally, for it to work, you would have to essentially have all involved parties on board and make the change over night. There would be far too much resistance by the burned SEC programs and the other raided conferences just a pure reaction to keeping that beast of a conference from being formed.
It could be done, but I'm thinking (hoping) the logistics of it make it unlikely.