What if Andrew haters were right? I'll be honest though. The win is not as good as it may seem. We'll be turning equipment in next week after a 3rd consecutive poor 1st round showing since missing the playoffs after sneaking in luckily.
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Wrong about the game yes wrong about Andrew no. I am not a believer. Beating BB might be their biggest win in years and IMO BB had a down year. I will give Andrew credit for having a good year but I don’t see them going deep in the playoffs.
So they are who we thought they were. Me and you know what’s going on with BB. I feel for you Bones.
Don't feel for me lol I'm just a fan who likes HS football. But I learned the basketball side of things isn't so bad. That's why I upped the basketball thread last week. I've recognized the trend for a while now.
Time of possession
Andrew: 36 minutes
Brook: 11 minutes
Andrew: 36 minutes
Brook: 11 minutes
11 mins in the 3rd Qtr was impressive. We really only had maybe 5 good offensive plays.
I was at the East West game tonight. AJ was on fire. East looks very fast and they walk with a swagger. They have a lot of confidence. The thing is LWW didn’t look bad they just couldn’t stop the explosive plays. RB Williams is a beast for East. The 2 D-Ends for East are really good. IMO East isn’t unbeatable but they sure present a ton of problems for teams.
Losing Howard in the 2nd quarter seemed to hurt since Andrew was staying in the game. Brook was actually having some early success with him running at TB in the I-formation to open the game. He actually scored their first TD and has been a big part of their offense for the season.
Early success was one long play. 4 plays from the one yard line and had to settle for a FG says all that can be said.
As for losing Howard, on a play at the end of the half that's not going to score a TD, why not kneel?
Out-coached. Offense can't score or even move the ball. Defense on the field for 80% of the game.
Here you go. Shepard had a coaching change and student body shift. Sandburg has had numerous coaching changes and has not been good for 10 years. Kids who play football have options out of Sandburg because they have money. Sandburg is fine for many sports programs just not football. The Brook has been up and down, but no major ups and downs and offense has been a struggle for the post Bailey years. I still think motivation will carry them further than Andrew in the playoffs. Andrew deserves a win if they control the ball and hats off to them. Privates do not recruit anyone from Sandburg district for football...only hockey.
Sandburg hasn’t been relevant as far as I can remember going back to 2005 when East pasted them 30-0 at Sandburg.
Not recruited, but do they still choose private schools?
Sandburg makes no sense. People are saying they were good at one point but they really haven't had a productive season in this century. That's a bigger issue than losing some talent to Providence or Marist. Just trying to figure how a school of this size with the proper resources and facilities cannot put together a team that can win 10 games on the reg, like LWE, MS, GBW.
The Sandburg (and Stagg) coaching changes have been promotions from within D230. To break out of any perceived funk, these programs might benefit from going outside. However, most of us are familiar with the fact that teachers incoming to the the district can not apply previous years of experience to their starting salaries. (Correct me if this is no longer true). That could limit the applicant pool? For example, not likely someone like Coach Czart would be able to make a move under those conditions.
Resources, body count and success elsewhere in the athletic department would lead one to believe they could put together a reasonably decent football team once in 20 years.
Resources mean they can buy football talent? From what I've been told if you live in Sandburg boundries and football is important you go to Marist. Haven't seen a AJ Henning on their roster, ever, even when they were solid. Then their schedule has built in losses based on talent alone. It's not like they're playing small schools as you see they played Hillcrest pretty close.
One correction, they have had OL talent.
Hillcrest is a small school though.
Why are they different than MS or Lemont or Willowbrook?
Maine South has football talent. Sandburg probably is Lemont, except they have LWE, HF, and what's left of Brook on their schedule. They played Lyons close enough in the past.
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If you go to see a Carl Sandburg game at home and are a 5th grader you first notice the empty seats on the home side. It is very hard to build a program up when Friday Night Lights don’t include folks other than your parents watching. Culture needs to change and to be honest there are other great programs at Sandburg they can focus on. Football needs to be the king on campus.
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Didn’t figure you’d buy it. What I’m saying is that these districts have parents with money. And if little Johnny has some talent but the football team doesn’t have much success, off they go, especially if pop is an alum of one of the CCL schools.
To a certain extent, I'll buy part of it. However, it's not the sole reason why a school like Sandburg has experienced such sustained mediocrity. My God, Orland Park has 60,000 residents and Sandburg has 3,000 students.
You have to ask why the school doesn't have much success. Why can't they find a coach who can figure it out? Why can't they develop a stronger feeder program? How is it that other schools with similar or better demographics and similar private school competition for students (GBW, for example) have figured out a way to make it work?
Ramblinman you’re killing it. Why does New Trier not share the same with Loyola. Sandburg perhaps just doesn’t care about football to make the same financial commitment as let’s say H-F has shown in the south suburbs. Carl Sandburg is a great public school who has good feeder programs who send players to many HS programs. Hey, they could be AA Stagg or worse yet Lyons Township to name a few. Andrew has had one good year in how long?
Have heard same thing from sandburg guy who teaches in burbs. They wont pay for time so never gonna get an experienced coach. While you can still find a young diamond in the rough it takes time.
Struggling at football might not be a big deal to people who make the decisions if they're not football people since they dont work off alumni donations like a private achool.
Plus things are just different now, kids travel an hour to get to a hs for various reasons. Some are legit reasons and some are delusional parents.
How about this Ramblinman from an area you can relate and being coached by a Sandburg grad currently. How can a University like Northwestern spend huge amounts of money, offer a top ten education, and still perform like a mediocre tier 2 program. Football is not life encompassing.
That would have been a spot on post if you were talking about the Francis Peay/Dennis Green/Rick Venturi years. They were the height of mediocrity then. BUT, NU has found a way to turn it around under couple of that Sandburg grad's predecessors. Fitz has been able to sustain that turnaround in his tenure. Certainly, this year is a bump in the road, but the previous three years all ended with bowl wins and last year they were the Big Ten west division champs. Sandburg hasn't sniffed a similar level of success in a very long time.
Plus northwestern is dealing with academic requirements most schools aren't. Getting the top recruits may never be possible unless they decide they want to bend them.