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gets a surprise and loses their money. Not saying it will happen, but I hope anyone betting against the bulldogs loses.
Stansbury is gonna win this game and trap us into believing there is hope for the rest of the season.
I figured we would at least put up somewhat of an effort. But what we did tonight is unacceptable. I haven't given Stansbury a pass, but I didn't think the situation was as bad as many on here thought it was. I no longer think that. I don't care if he can recruit, I don't care what he does well. The things Stansbury doespoorly hurt this program more, and it's time for a change. We are so mediocre in basketball, and I think the way Dan has changed the attitude and perception of our football team is going to influence how we proceed with the basketball program. I see change coming, and I think it will be soon.
If Bost and Sidney do in fact stay, it could be Stansbury's most talented team. He may actually screw up and win enough to hang around longer like Croom did. I don't want that to happen again.
Let's just say Stansbury manages to get us to the 2nd round or the Sweet 16 next year.Does that change theperception that he can't coach?It won't for me, but it gives him another pass for all the mediocrity we've dealt with in the past. I don't think there is any question he isn't an X's and O's guy, and in major college basketball, you need someone that can coach an offense.
So now the question is, where do we draw the line? What is bad enough? When you have a coach as long as we've had Stansbury that usually does enough to get by and appease enough people, it's tough to make that step. But it always seems the same thing happens. We will win the West with a 9-7 conference record, make it to the SEC Tournament Finals and lose a heartbreaker, get a 1 seed in the NIT, and lose in the 3rd round. And that will save him for the magical run he's gonna make next year. </p>
Let's just say Stansbury manages to get us to the 2nd round or the Sweet 16 next year.Does that change theperception that he can't coach?It won't for me, but it gives him another pass for all the mediocrity we've dealt with in the past. I don't think there is any question he isn't an X's and O's guy, and in major college basketball, you need someone that can coach an offense.
So now the question is, where do we draw the line? What is bad enough? When you have a coach as long as we've had Stansbury that usually does enough to get by and appease enough people, it's tough to make that step. But it always seems the same thing happens. We will win the West with a 9-7 conference record, make it to the SEC Tournament Finals and lose a heartbreaker, get a 1 seed in the NIT, and lose in the 3rd round. And that will save him for the magical run he's gonna make next year. </p>
He has next year pretty much no matter what happens this year... He will get a chance with the big recruiting class he signed.
How many coaches out there that aren't good maintain high levels of success? Only one, and that's Stansbury because we continue to allow SEC West Championships to be our measure for success.
Croom was a terrible coach, got us a bowl game, we think he's gonna turn things around, then we win 4 games. We did our due diligence and foundDan Mullen. Ayoung, fiery HC that loves MSU, fights for MSU, and is doing everything he can to make MSU a winner. Does Stansbury do any of that? If he does, I don't see it. Why do people think we can't find a young up and coming mid major coach that will do the same thing for our basketball program? I will admit I'm less versed in the names of coaches in NCAA basketball, but you're telling me we can't find abetter coach that wouldn't jump at the chance tocome to an SEC program?
We don't have a bunch of idiots running our athletic department anymore. We aren't some lost program anymore. We can find a coach to come in here and succeed.
Croom was a terrible coach, got us a bowl game, we think he's gonna turn things around, then we win 4 games. We did our due diligence and foundDan Mullen. Ayoung, fiery HC that loves MSU, fights for MSU, and is doing everything he can to make MSU a winner. Does Stansbury do any of that? If he does, I don't see it. Why do people think we can't find a young up and coming mid major coach that will do the same thing for our basketball program? I will admit I'm less versed in the names of coaches in NCAA basketball, but you're telling me we can't find abetter coach that wouldn't jump at the chance tocome to an SEC program?
We don't have a bunch of idiots running our athletic department anymore. We aren't some lost program anymore. We can find a coach to come in here and succeed.
There's legitimate reasons to criticize Stans andit's getting to the point thatit may be time tomake a change soon. But to even begin to compare him to Crxxm is just ridiculous.
As for us thinking that Crxxm was going to turn it around after the Liberty Bowl, there were plenty of sheep on this board that believed that, but I'm convinced that's just because they wanted us to be good somuch that they refused to see the obvious which was that the 2007 season was a lucky fluke.
As for us thinking that Crxxm was going to turn it around after the Liberty Bowl, there were plenty of sheep on this board that believed that, but I'm convinced that's just because they wanted us to be good somuch that they refused to see the obvious which was that the 2007 season was a lucky fluke.
I said if Stansbury gets us to the Sweet 16 next year it's not going to change my opinion that I think he is a below average coach. Just because you get to the Sweet 16 once in 14 years, assuming he gets us there next year, doesn't mean you are a good coach. I think 8-8 in the SEC this year is just not good enough, and that's where we could end up the way we are playing right now. That's just not acceptable anymore.
If we go 8-8 in the SEC this year, I think Stansbury should be fired and we should start clean. I know it's not going to happen, but I personally think it should. We have too much talent to go .500 in the weakest SEC we've seen in a very long time. I hate acceptance of mediocrity. Just one of my things. I don't think 6-6 teams should go to a bowl game, and I don't think coaches that underachieve and do just enough should get a pass.
Each of the last 3 years the SEC was in decline more than the previous year. We went 11-4, 9-7, and 9-7 over those years. So as the SEC overalldeclined, we had a worse conference record. So we did worse against less talented teams. I don't that should be rewarded.
If we go 8-8 in the SEC this year, I think Stansbury should be fired and we should start clean. I know it's not going to happen, but I personally think it should. We have too much talent to go .500 in the weakest SEC we've seen in a very long time. I hate acceptance of mediocrity. Just one of my things. I don't think 6-6 teams should go to a bowl game, and I don't think coaches that underachieve and do just enough should get a pass.
Each of the last 3 years the SEC was in decline more than the previous year. We went 11-4, 9-7, and 9-7 over those years. So as the SEC overalldeclined, we had a worse conference record. So we did worse against less talented teams. I don't that should be rewarded.
I am so glad that game was not ontelevision. Take WSUin the next game. Stands has no clue and this team has some talent. Bryant is actual pretty damn good. Boy does Stans miss SWAT on defense, he hid alot ofhis coaching decencies the past few years. EASY Money to made the next few game$, we might not win another before Dee gets back, then there are no more excuses.[b said: