Taking Simon Out
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Can’t really get first downs or TD’s with his legs though and GW probably has an overall stronger arm. With Ohio State’s wideouts it would make more sense. Evan has shown that he’s an accurate passer and I doubt the coaches haven’t noticed that.
I’m reminded of Kurt Warner when he played on the Giants. Good QB. Bad fit.
RU would be 5-1 if Simon stayed in the game.
The never ending story... the guy on the end of the bench is better
Ill just o back to the one I always usta here
Jabu Jabu Jabu put Jabu in!
no offense Jabu.
Ill just o back to the one I always usta here
Jabu Jabu Jabu put Jabu in!
no offense Jabu.
Who didn't get a bit verklempt when Simon came in and threw the TDRU would be 5-1 if Simon stayed in the game.
Simon has to think at this point he’s getting a raw deal.
I am not saying he’s better than Gavin or should be the starter. But he earned the opportunity to play more Saturday against Wisconsin and should have gotten another drive
I am not saying he’s better than Gavin or should be the starter. But he earned the opportunity to play more Saturday against Wisconsin and should have gotten another drive
Guys actually sometimes get better …
I was think between taking the team down. The field for a td and Gavin getting such a tough hit the forced him out of the game that Simon should have been in for at least another series.
Also sometimes people can just play out of their minds on a random day. When I played hs tennis, there were 2 games where I was in a complete zone. Maybe the team could have used a breath of fresh air given their offensive struggles too.
Also sometimes people can just play out of their minds on a random day. When I played hs tennis, there were 2 games where I was in a complete zone. Maybe the team could have used a breath of fresh air given their offensive struggles too.
Simon looked poised and ready during his brief stint but let's not overstate what occurred. He entered the game after GW had driven the ball to Wisconsin 35 yard line. Simon was able to take it the final 35 yards. I would not refer to that as marching down the field.
We already knew Simon is a better passer than Wimsatt. Am sure Schiano picked Wimsatt QB1 due to athletic ability and RPO possibilities, which would be fine except he doesn’t trust GW to do that anyway. So then why is he QB1?
Anyhow, what would have happened if Simon led us to another TD ? There is absolutely no way Schiano would risk being second-guessed and criticized for choosing Wimsatt this year. He’s covering his *** by sticking with Wimsatt, just in case.
The last thing he wants is a QB controversy and any challenge to his credibility as a HC.
This is why I said in another thread that Schiano is all in with Wimsatt for 2 more years and would fire another OC before ever replacing GW.
Duh.
Anyhow, what would have happened if Simon led us to another TD ? There is absolutely no way Schiano would risk being second-guessed and criticized for choosing Wimsatt this year. He’s covering his *** by sticking with Wimsatt, just in case.
The last thing he wants is a QB controversy and any challenge to his credibility as a HC.
This is why I said in another thread that Schiano is all in with Wimsatt for 2 more years and would fire another OC before ever replacing GW.
Duh.
the reality is neither of them should be our starting qb but they are who we have
I would only hope Greg gives Shepperd a quarter each game to get him some experience as he looked 'ok' in mop up last week. I'd like to see more other than the one practice I was at. He's not bad, not saying he should be #1 on depth chart but the kid has some skills
I would only hope Greg gives Shepperd a quarter each game to get him some experience as he looked 'ok' in mop up last week. I'd like to see more other than the one practice I was at. He's not bad, not saying he should be #1 on depth chart but the kid has some skills
true but he didn't throw a bad ball that picked for 6 the other way either, nor did he miss open receives when given the chance.
but agree overall
end thread, this is the issue
Gav has skills; is he held back by Greg or is his ceiling lower than what people thought
need to find this out now or move on to someone else
Am I the only one who attended the Nebraska game last year?
Could have sworn there were other people there.
Could have sworn there were other people there.
Agree, should have given Simon the following series
Coach could have gotten away with that
under the pretext that Gavin needed a bit more of a break
We will never know what Simon would have done
And yes Gavin could certainly come back during the game
Don’t coaches pull starters for the backup anyplace ?
There is nothing wrong with giving the backup another series, after what he did with his first
Yes Schiano is career suicidal. He would rather risk losing then have his QB choice questioned.
Makes sense.
agree, that's bad coaching on Greg's part. Forget what Gav looked like stumbling over but to not keep Simon in for an another series in mind boggling
Greg is going to live and die with Gav, we know this. Gav will be Greg's undoing because we are not going to win with him
We had the decision to put Sitkowski back in booed, after he missed a play or two with an injury
I doubt that would have happened here, had the game been at home, but there may have been a bit of it
And as I have said in the past, it should be ok to boo a coaching decision, but not a player. But you can’t separate the intention of the booing from the player or coach, so it looks bad in all cases, therefore, you can’t do it
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Jabu couldn't hit a curveball though.
not the point its always the same the guy on da bench is better.
The HC's choice is not the best player, the best player is always on da bench.
HC's know they have a better chance to win if their best players are on da bench.
Depends the situation. Coaches never want to be challenged with QB controversies. Again, what if Simon won the game (unlikely). Then it’s a mess. It’s easy for us to say Simon deserved another series but Schiano has a lot of credibility invested in GW and it’s not as simple as giving the other guy more PT if Gavin is able to play.
You seem to know a lot about what you don't know about.
To us Monday morning quarterbacks, the backup quarterback is always the best player on the squad! When I saw the INT, i was counting down the time until someone posted it.
Yea winning against Wisconsin would be a real mess. Schiano really dogged a bullet with the loss. Imagine if he won with Simon playing : having to deal with bowl games, and the favorable press, who needs that. Then there are the recruits it starts to become easier to get better recruits, yuk. As long as there are no QB controversies life is better.
I really dont think GS is going to pull a guy because he might play too well. That's just crazy talk.
Don’t be naive. is fact. you think a coach will ever bench the new contract 20 million dollar player in favor of the minimum pay guy ? It’s the same idea here. Too much invested in one player to risk credibility and judgment attacks.
Do I think Simon deserved another series ? Yes. But I have no skin in the decision. That’s just not how coaching works. Fact. There’s a lot more to PT decisions than meets the eye.
For example…a very bad look for a coach desperate to attract 4* then bench him. Might scare the next one off. Or let’s say RHJ was slumping. With Dylan a major target, do think Pikiell would ever not start Ron ? Of course not.
Now, if this were Year 7 Schiano might be more desperate but he doesn’t have any pressure to win now. It’s why Simon didn’t get another snap.
Schiano doubled-down and nipped that possibility in the bud. Plain and simple.
Imagine the stain if GW were to transfer out.
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If Simon won the game coach could still start Gavin the next game, saying he won the spot in the week practice
Coach can do what ever he wants
Again I would have let Simon have the next drive if it were me
Gavin cannot hit curve ball. Straight ball, he hit very much. Curve ball, bats are afraid. That's why he ask Jabu to come. Take fear from bats. He offer cigar. Rum. Jabu will come.
Here is my thought. UW game planned for Wimsatt. Simon had just thrown a TD pass and made it look pretty easy. At that point, Wisconsin had no game plan for Simon and may have been on their heels a bit. And after GW having his bell rung (how wasn't that targeting?), nobody would have questioned giving Simon another series.
Yes, me too. But it’s a much more complex decision for the actual coach.
Hypothetically, what if Simon lit it up and we won. Schiano has to start him next week too. Team plays well and we go 7-5. Schiano has to keep playing him, right ?
GW transfers. Imagine how bad that looks. So much invested in GW and GS has to answer for his major mistake.
No, he benched Savage for the Sanu Wildcat. That’s why Savage left.
Sime started a good amount of games last year and while his completion % was higher, he also threw 6 int to 4 TD. Yes, GW had a bad ratio last year too - 5TD/7INT
But this year- GW has a 6/2 ratio and has also accounted for 230 yds on the ground and 4 TD- so- a 10TD to 2 TO's.
His ability to run has also opened up the running game as well. While ES is a statue.
Now- if GW was still a little off from the hit, you give Simon another run at it. But, I guess, Greg felt GW was good to go- and the starter goes back in.
Greg is going back to GW during the game anyway.
But this year- GW has a 6/2 ratio and has also accounted for 230 yds on the ground and 4 TD- so- a 10TD to 2 TO's.
His ability to run has also opened up the running game as well. While ES is a statue.
Now- if GW was still a little off from the hit, you give Simon another run at it. But, I guess, Greg felt GW was good to go- and the starter goes back in.
Greg is going back to GW during the game anyway.