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From a 2023 report I found...U.S. nonprofits spend an estimated $7.8 to $9.2 billion annually on climate change research and related activities, according to a recent report. This figure represents a significant portion of their overall environmental work, which also includes areas like conservation and environmental advocacy.

This is probably a conservative estimate, truth be told. Unf'ingbelievable.
 

JumperJack.

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From a 2023 report I found...U.S. nonprofits spend an estimated $7.8 to $9.2 billion annually on climate change research and related activities, according to a recent report. This figure represents a significant portion of their overall environmental work, which also includes areas like conservation and environmental advocacy.

This is probably a conservative estimate, truth be told. Unf'ingbelievable.
So, there are many, many people, connected to the left wing, grifting the taxpayer to fight a forever war against carbon.

No wonder they are so adamant. They have multiple houses and cars to pay off.
 

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Sea levels in Florida have risen by roughly a foot in the last 80 years. In some areas, like Virginia Key, the rise has been about 8 inches since 1950, with a more recent acceleration of about 1 inch every 3 years. Projections indicate a further rise of another foot by 2050, with potential increases of 2 feet by 2070 and 3 feet by 2080.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
  • Past Rise:
    Sea levels in Florida have risen about a foot in the past 80 years.

  • Recent Acceleration:
    The rate of sea level rise has increased, with some areas experiencing a rise of 1 inch every 3 years in the last decade.

  • Future Projections:
    Estimates suggest a further rise of a foot by 2050, with potential increases of 2 feet by 2070 and 3 feet by 2080, according to a report from Florida Climate Center.

  • Regional Variations:
    Sea level rise isn't uniform across Florida, with different regions experiencing varying rates of increase.

  • Impacts:
    The rising sea levels are causing tidal flooding, impacting infrastructure, and threatening coastal communities with potential inundation.


Key Impacts and Projections:
    • Increased Flooding:
      Sea level rise is already causing more frequent and severe tidal flooding in coastal communities, particularly in South Florida.
    • Storm Surge Amplification:
      Higher sea levels mean storm surges during hurricanes will push further inland, causing more damage and potentially greater loss of life.
    • Saltwater Intrusion:
      Rising sea levels are contaminating freshwater sources with saltwater, impacting drinking water supplies and agriculture.
    • Property Damage and Economic Loss:
      Florida's coastal communities face the potential for billions of dollars in property value loss and thousands of homes becoming uninhabitable due to rising seas.
    • Ecosystem Impacts:
      Sea level rise threatens coastal ecosystems like wetlands and mangroves, which provide crucial habitat and protection against storms.
    • Specific Projections:
        • Miami-Dade County: Projections suggest 10 to 17 inches of sea level rise by 2040.
        • Southeast Florida: By the end of the century, communities may experience 3 to 8 feet of sea level rise.
        • South Florida: Sea levels have already risen by about a foot in the last 80 years, and further rises of a foot by 2050 and 3 feet by 2080 are projected.
Factors Contributing to Sea Level Rise in Florida:

    • Melting Ice:
      Melting glaciers and ice sheets add water to the oceans, contributing to global sea level rise.
    • Thermal Expansion:
      As ocean water warms, it expands, taking up more space and further contributing to sea level rise.
    • Local Factors:
      Florida's unique geological makeup and land subsidence also contribute to localized sea level rise.
Addressing the Threat:
Florida faces a challenging future with rising sea levels, but proactive measures and community engagement are crucial for mitigating the impacts and adapting to the changing environment.
 

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Louisville hit 106 in the 1930s. I guess that entire city is just incinerated after almost 100 years of warming?
Do some of you really not understand the difference between outliers and trends or between individual weather events and climate? It's quite clear the average temperatures have been trending up for a while. This is the average temperatures of months in Tampa. Over half of the highest average months on record are in the last dozen years or so. Almost every average coolest maximum temperature is from over 100 years ago.

You can debate the cause of the increase if you really want (although you'd still be wrong), but it's pretty clear temperatures are increasing.

 
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I thought everything political was supposed to be in the political thread? Climate change is politics. That’s all it ever has been. The climate has never been static. Ever.
 
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Hank Camacho

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No, climate change is science based. Politics are fantasy based
:ROFLMAO:

I am sorry that not everyone is as terrified of this nothing burger as you are. Your continued beating of this drum makes it less likely that people are going to be persuaded by you.

But whatever man. You are free to be as carbon neutral as you want to. Most people could not possibly care less -- and your side making idiotically over the top claims for going on a century now is the EXACT REASON most people tune you out.
 

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Lmao. It's absolutely not politics. It's based on science and objective data. And quite frankly that primary data is more complex than anyone in this thread has the capacity to understand.
Sorry dude. When I see scientists being banned, blackballed and censored because they think differently than the “real science” it makes me think why. Real science shouldn’t need to do that. Climate change is politics. I’m not saying we shouldn’t be responsible. I’m saying the climate has and will always change and it’s embarrassing to see grown men curled up in a ball in the corner because it got hot in July.
 
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Sea levels in Florida have risen by roughly a foot in the last 80 years. In some areas, like Virginia Key, the rise has been about 8 inches since 1950, with a more recent acceleration of about 1 inch every 3 years. Projections indicate a further rise of another foot by 2050, with potential increases of 2 feet by 2070 and 3 feet by 2080.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
  • Past Rise:
    Sea levels in Florida have risen about a foot in the past 80 years.

  • Recent Acceleration:
    The rate of sea level rise has increased, with some areas experiencing a rise of 1 inch every 3 years in the last decade.

  • Future Projections:
    Estimates suggest a further rise of a foot by 2050, with potential increases of 2 feet by 2070 and 3 feet by 2080, according to a report from Florida Climate Center.

  • Regional Variations:
    Sea level rise isn't uniform across Florida, with different regions experiencing varying rates of increase.

  • Impacts:
    The rising sea levels are causing tidal flooding, impacting infrastructure, and threatening coastal communities with potential inundation.


Key Impacts and Projections:
    • Increased Flooding:
      Sea level rise is already causing more frequent and severe tidal flooding in coastal communities, particularly in South Florida.
    • Storm Surge Amplification:
      Higher sea levels mean storm surges during hurricanes will push further inland, causing more damage and potentially greater loss of life.
    • Saltwater Intrusion:
      Rising sea levels are contaminating freshwater sources with saltwater, impacting drinking water supplies and agriculture.
    • Property Damage and Economic Loss:
      Florida's coastal communities face the potential for billions of dollars in property value loss and thousands of homes becoming uninhabitable due to rising seas.
    • Ecosystem Impacts:
      Sea level rise threatens coastal ecosystems like wetlands and mangroves, which provide crucial habitat and protection against storms.
    • Specific Projections:
        • Miami-Dade County: Projections suggest 10 to 17 inches of sea level rise by 2040.
        • Southeast Florida: By the end of the century, communities may experience 3 to 8 feet of sea level rise.
        • South Florida: Sea levels have already risen by about a foot in the last 80 years, and further rises of a foot by 2050 and 3 feet by 2080 are projected.
Factors Contributing to Sea Level Rise in Florida:

    • Melting Ice:
      Melting glaciers and ice sheets add water to the oceans, contributing to global sea level rise.
    • Thermal Expansion:
      As ocean water warms, it expands, taking up more space and further contributing to sea level rise.
    • Local Factors:
      Florida's unique geological makeup and land subsidence also contribute to localized sea level rise.
Addressing the Threat:
Florida faces a challenging future with rising sea levels, but proactive measures and community engagement are crucial for mitigating the impacts and adapting to the changing environment.
Reminds me of when Gilligan thought the island was sinking.
 

Beatle Bum

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Do some of you really not understand the difference between outliers and trends or between individual weather events and climate? It's quite clear the average temperatures have been trending up for a while. This is the average temperatures of months in Tampa. Over half of the highest average months on record are in the last dozen years or so. Almost every average coolest maximum temperature is from over 100 years ago.

You can debate the cause of the increase if you really want (although you'd still be wrong), but it's pretty clear temperatures are increasing.

What are the factors that have caused temps to rise over the course of the earth’s existence?

If the factors don’t matter, then there is no political response to warming and we can have threads like this all day long. If the factors matter and people want to pretend we can impact warming by politics, then we have a completely different discussion.
 

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Lmao. It's absolutely not politics. It's based on science and objective data. And quite frankly that primary data is more complex than anyone in this thread has the capacity to understand.

And that science and objective data can always be countered w/ opposite viewpoints consisting of science and objective data.

When climate change starts costing billions upon billions and you see it largely catered to one side of the aisle, it is most certainly about politics, especially when you fail to see any noteworthy results that any of us or our great-great-great-great grandchildren will witness.
 
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Beatle Bum

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Temperatures have never risen this fast this quickly. If you want to see a relatively accurate representation of temperature fluctuations over time, you can look here. It ends in 2016, and it's just accelerated since then.

What? You believe over the existence of the earth this is fastest temperatures have risen?

Thanks for the link, tells us a lot about what we are dealing with here. Lol
 
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What? You believe over the existence of the earth this is fastest temperatures have risen?
I'm not going to say over the existence of the earth, because that would include crazy situations like when earth was a new planet.

But yes, it's pretty widely accepted by like 99.9% of climate scientists that the last 150 years or so is the fastest temperatures have risen in the history of earth being a stable planet with life on it. That's honestly not even close to debatable.

If you have actual data that proves the contrary feel free to provide it. But if you don't, you can't claim you're doing anything but repeating what Fox News and the like has told you about climate change.
 
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the last 150 years or so

What would make the temp rise 150 years ago? 100 years ago? How much of this planet do think was industrialized back then? How many ic engines do you think existed 100 years ago even?

If man created enough pollution 150 years ago to alter temps globally and you'd like to go back to a time before that, well that's why no one takes you seriously.

I would listen to your arguments more closely if you could provide a list of quasi scientific orgs across the globe that are dependent on climate warming/global change grift never ending showing consensus.
 

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MUANI, Fiji — For years, this coastal village has tried to overcome the effects of climate change. When rising seas began to lap at their doors, residents built a seawall. When flooding continued, they dug culverts and trucked in rock and sand.

But the ocean now spills over the seawall, fills the culverts, and erodes the rock and sand. And so, villagers have decided it’s time to move. To move Muani, wooden house by wooden house, a few hundred yards to the top of a densely forested hill.
 

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MUANI, Fiji — For years, this coastal village has tried to overcome the effects of climate change. When rising seas began to lap at their doors, residents built a seawall. When flooding continued, they dug culverts and trucked in rock and sand.

But the ocean now spills over the seawall, fills the culverts, and erodes the rock and sand. And so, villagers have decided it’s time to move. To move Muani, wooden house by wooden house, a few hundred yards to the top of a densely forested hill.

Hanks did his best to warn you. You went on with your life.


 

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But yes, it's pretty widely accepted by like 99.9% of climate scientists that the last 150 years or so is the fastest temperatures have risen in the history of earth being a stable planet with life on it. That's honestly not even close to debatable.
To the best of anyone's knowledge, life has been in existence on Earth for about 3.8 billions of years. 150 years is such a vanishingly small percentage of 3.8 billion that you have to use exponents to describe how small it is. Those 150 years are, miraculously, also the only time that humans have been precisely recording temperatures.

To even say something like "It's pretty widely accepted by like 99.9% of climate scientists that the last 150 years or so is the fastest temperatures have risen in the history of earth being a stable planet with life on it" is so asinine when you consider the probabilities, it is pretty mind-boggling.

Also, if (as you say) 99.9% of a group hold one opinion, that far more likely shows that the opinion is a result of ideological force rather than objective fact.

But please continue for umpteenth straight decade to parrot this idiotic nonsense if you want. YOU (and me and everyone else posting in this thread) have absolutely no control over the climate. I'm 44. I've heard the same alarmist nonsense since I was able to read. It becomes obvious what is really going on when you get older.

After COVID, I will never, EVER "trust the experts" ever again. That has become a fairly majority opinion because of Chicken Little claims such as your "99.9% of climate scientists agree!" argument. You quite likely are persuading people to the opposite of your position. Something to consider.
 
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From a 2023 report I found...U.S. nonprofits spend an estimated $7.8 to $9.2 billion annually on climate change research and related activities, according to a recent report. This figure represents a significant portion of their overall environmental work, which also includes areas like conservation and environmental advocacy.

This is probably a conservative estimate, truth be told. Unf'ingbelievable.

Im going to safely assume those were all ngos using our taxpayer money.
 
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Sea levels in Florida have risen by roughly a foot in the last 80 years. In some areas, like Virginia Key, the rise has been about 8 inches since 1950, with a more recent acceleration of about 1 inch every 3 years. Projections indicate a further rise of another foot by 2050, with potential increases of 2 feet by 2070 and 3 feet by 2080.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
  • Past Rise:
    Sea levels in Florida have risen about a foot in the past 80 years.

  • Recent Acceleration:
    The rate of sea level rise has increased, with some areas experiencing a rise of 1 inch every 3 years in the last decade.

  • Future Projections:
    Estimates suggest a further rise of a foot by 2050, with potential increases of 2 feet by 2070 and 3 feet by 2080, according to a report from Florida Climate Center.

  • Regional Variations:
    Sea level rise isn't uniform across Florida, with different regions experiencing varying rates of increase.

  • Impacts:
    The rising sea levels are causing tidal flooding, impacting infrastructure, and threatening coastal communities with potential inundation.


Key Impacts and Projections:
    • Increased Flooding:
      Sea level rise is already causing more frequent and severe tidal flooding in coastal communities, particularly in South Florida.
    • Storm Surge Amplification:
      Higher sea levels mean storm surges during hurricanes will push further inland, causing more damage and potentially greater loss of life.
    • Saltwater Intrusion:
      Rising sea levels are contaminating freshwater sources with saltwater, impacting drinking water supplies and agriculture.
    • Property Damage and Economic Loss:
      Florida's coastal communities face the potential for billions of dollars in property value loss and thousands of homes becoming uninhabitable due to rising seas.
    • Ecosystem Impacts:
      Sea level rise threatens coastal ecosystems like wetlands and mangroves, which provide crucial habitat and protection against storms.
    • Specific Projections:
        • Miami-Dade County: Projections suggest 10 to 17 inches of sea level rise by 2040.
        • Southeast Florida: By the end of the century, communities may experience 3 to 8 feet of sea level rise.
        • South Florida: Sea levels have already risen by about a foot in the last 80 years, and further rises of a foot by 2050 and 3 feet by 2080 are projected.
Factors Contributing to Sea Level Rise in Florida:

    • Melting Ice:
      Melting glaciers and ice sheets add water to the oceans, contributing to global sea level rise.
    • Thermal Expansion:
      As ocean water warms, it expands, taking up more space and further contributing to sea level rise.
    • Local Factors:
      Florida's unique geological makeup and land subsidence also contribute to localized sea level rise.
Addressing the Threat:
Florida faces a challenging future with rising sea levels, but proactive measures and community engagement are crucial for mitigating the impacts and adapting to the changing environment.

Your ai copy/paste really thinks the sea is raising only in Florida. Sounds about right. Because we all know that's exactly how it would work.

Hopefully the next expedition to document ice loss doesn't get trapped in the ice they say is gone.
 
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Do some of you really not understand the difference between outliers and trends or between individual weather events and climate? It's quite clear the average temperatures have been trending up for a while. This is the average temperatures of months in Tampa. Over half of the highest average months on record are in the last dozen years or so. Almost every average coolest maximum temperature is from over 100 years ago.

You can debate the cause of the increase if you really want (although you'd still be wrong), but it's pretty clear temperatures are increasing.


Oh i understand it. That's why i know its a garbage concept sold to lemmings.

Here is a hint about outliers: they dont apply to something like a warming environment. Their existence in and of themselves debunks the very theory.

Outliers have real, legit statistical significance mainly to adjust for poor sampling. Eg: you conduct 100 political polls, each time polling 1000 people of the same characteristics. 998 times you get the same results, within a few percentage points. The other two would be counted as outliers as a way to adjust for poor random sampling.

That's how outliers work. So yes i understand them. Thats why I know this whole thing us nonsense.

Measuring temperature should never ever have any data designated as an outlier. If i go preheat my oven right now to 400°, it doesn't go up and down. It wont be 300, then 250, then 325, then 275. No, it is a gradual warming until it reaches 400.

The very existence of so called outliers completely destroys any warming theory. The end.
 
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I'm not going to say over the existence of the earth, because that would include crazy situations like when earth was a new planet.

But yes, it's pretty widely accepted by like 99.9% of climate scientists that the last 150 years or so is the fastest temperatures have risen in the history of earth being a stable planet with life on it. That's honestly not even close to debatable.

If you have actual data that proves the contrary feel free to provide it. But if you don't, you can't claim you're doing anything but repeating what Fox News and the like has told you about climate change.
History of earth? You may want to go back and see how current temps and temp movements compared to the hundreds of millions of years we’ve been around.
 

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I'm not going to say over the existence of the earth, because that would include crazy situations like when earth was a new planet.

But yes, it's pretty widely accepted by like 99.9% of climate scientists that the last 150 years or so is the fastest temperatures have risen in the history of earth being a stable planet with life on it. That's honestly not even close to debatable.

If you have actual data that proves the contrary feel free to provide it. But if you don't, you can't claim you're doing anything but repeating what Fox News and the like has told you about climate change.

There is this really amazing series on Netflix that I loved called “Life on our planet” that goes through the history of earth that I think you’d enjoy. I found it pretty fascinating. I’m not going to go back and forth on the climate stuff as I said my piece in the other thread and don’t really care enough to rehash it but I think you would like that series.
 

PhDcat2018

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From a 2023 report I found...U.S. nonprofits spend an estimated $7.8 to $9.2 billion annually on climate change research and related activities, according to a recent report. This figure represents a significant portion of their overall environmental work, which also includes areas like conservation and environmental advocacy.

This is probably a conservative estimate, truth be told. Unf'ingbelievable.
What a damn joke
 

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Another Flood.

Floods are so prominent across most of society, that it was enough to cast Christian Slater in a movie about them.

 

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I believe temperatures are rising. I can see it and feel it. I’m not sure there’s one clear reason for that although carbon emissions surely play a role. If China and the rest of Asia do nothing to decrease their emissions, and they’re not going to, i’m not keen on being taxed to death or lining Al Gore and John Kerry’s pockets.