Tampa hits 100 degrees FTFTE

[LineSkiCat14]

I believe temperatures are rising. I can see it and feel it. I’m not sure there’s one clear reason for that although carbon emissions surely play a role. If China and the rest of Asia do nothing to decrease their emissions, and they’re not going to, i’m not keen on being taxed to death or lining Al Gore and John Kerry’s pockets.

Pretty much my thoughts. I dont want to see our economy wrecked and money taken out of our pockets, to fight fight a losing battle against China and India.

We do need to figure out clean and renewable resources, but we cant hamstring our country trying to do so.

 

[GJNorman1]

I believe temperatures are rising. I can see it and feel it. I’m not sure there’s one clear reason for that although carbon emissions surely play a role. If China and the rest of Asia do nothing to decrease their emissions, and they’re not going to, i’m not keen on being taxed to death or lining Al Gore and John Kerry’s pockets.

I hear ya, it’s gotta be a group effort. China is kicking our *** on EV sales and technology as well as solar power.

Climate disasters are expensive and only getting more expensive.

imagine the damage and repair/replacement costs of todays flood in Chattanooga.

 

[sefus12]

I believe temperatures are rising. I can see it and feel it. I’m not sure there’s one clear reason for that although carbon emissions surely play a role. If China and the rest of Asia do nothing to decrease their emissions, and they’re not going to, i’m not keen on being taxed to death or lining Al Gore and John Kerry’s pockets.

Do you all realize we (the world) are coming out of an Ice Age? That means temps will rise. And to think mankind has a meaningful impact on emissions or the OZone layer or global temps, one that will end life in a generation or two, when this same Earth has seen temp anomalies far colder and hotter than we are now, is arrogant beyond belief.

 

[Beatle Bum]

I hear ya, it’s gotta be a group effort. China is kicking our *** on EV sales and technology as well as solar power.

Climate disasters are expensive and only getting more expensive.

imagine the damage and repair/replacement costs of todays flood in Chattanooga.

Also kicking our *** on coal powered plants!!! Gotta power those EVs.

 

[Beatle Bum]

Let’s be clear about China. It does not have the politicals pressuring it. It is building its energy base, increasingly building nukes and coal plants. It has now over 50% of all the coal energy in the world. It is also in a race for the future of computers and wants to have more energy than it needs, rather than less. Meanwhile, California accepts brownouts.

 

[Hank Camacho]

it’s gotta be a group effort.

It won't be. And acting like that is even a possibility is part of the problem.

 

[kyeric]

I believe temperatures are rising. I can see it and feel it. I’m not sure there’s one clear reason for that although carbon emissions surely play a role. If China and the rest of Asia do nothing to decrease their emissions, and they’re not going to, i’m not keen on being taxed to death or lining Al Gore and John Kerry’s pockets.

I'm not keen on being taxed to death regardless if China and India went full green tomorrow. Government already wastes too much of the money they already steal from us.

 

[GJNorman1]

I'm not keen on being taxed to death regardless if China and India went full green tomorrow. Government already wastes too much of the money they already steal from us.

You will have to pay for climate change one way or another. Either by taxes or thru
Storms negative impact on personal finances and the broader economy. It will lead to increased costs for essential goods and services, decreased income, and potential financial instability.

Higher food prices:
Climate change is projected to disrupt agricultural production, leading to food shortages and higher prices.

Increased energy costs:
Extreme temperatures can affect energy production and increase demand for heating and cooling, driving up utility bills.

Increased insurance costs:
More frequent and severe extreme weather events (floods, wildfires, hurricanes) are leading to higher insurance premiums for homeowners.

Higher housing costs:
Climate-related damage to infrastructure and increased risks of natural disasters can drive up the cost of housing maintenance and insurance.

Decreased Income and Productivity:
Reduced labor productivity:
Extreme heat and other climate-related hazards can impact worker health and safety, reducing productivity and leading to job losses.

Loss of working hours:
Extreme weather events can force businesses to close, leading to lost wages and reduced income for workers.

 

[cole@854]

You will have to pay for climate change one way or another. Either by taxes or thru
Storms negative impact on personal finances and the broader economy. It will lead to increased costs for essential goods and services, decreased income, and potential financial instability.

Higher food prices:
Climate change is projected to disrupt agricultural production, leading to food shortages and higher prices.

Increased energy costs:
Extreme temperatures can affect energy production and increase demand for heating and cooling, driving up utility bills.

Increased insurance costs:
More frequent and severe extreme weather events (floods, wildfires, hurricanes) are leading to higher insurance premiums for homeowners.

Higher housing costs:
Climate-related damage to infrastructure and increased risks of natural disasters can drive up the cost of housing maintenance and insurance.

Decreased Income and Productivity:
Reduced labor productivity:
Extreme heat and other climate-related hazards can impact worker health and safety, reducing productivity and leading to job losses.

Loss of working hours:
Extreme weather events can force businesses to close, leading to lost wages and reduced income for workers.

Wow...you just listed things that have been going on for decade after decade after decade. Brilliant.

 

[Beatle Bum]

Wow...you just listed things that have been going on for decade after decade after decade. Brilliant.

And, none the that stops because you pay more taxes so politicians can make their friends rich and get rich. Oxymoron for the day: government solution.

 

[PhDcat2018]

Flooding causes problems, evacuations, school closings in Chattanooga area | Chattanooga Times Free Press

The Hamilton County Sheriff’s Office reported heavy rain and storms Tuesday afternoon and evening caused flash flooding in several areas, shutting down major roads, forcing rescues and prompting evacuations.

www.timesfreepress.com

Another Flood.

Yep happens every year. Climate change is real too. It just doesn't have anything to do with us. It's been warmer and colder for thousands of years.

 

[GJNorman1]

Yep happens every year. Climate change is real too. It just doesn't have anything to do with us. It's been warmer and colder for thousands of years.

99% of all scientists disagree with you.

100% of all oil companies agree with you.

Exxon did studies in the 70s and concluded that carbon released into the air raised temperatures.

 

[JumperJack.]

Hurricane!!

We can totally stop them by getting rid of AC and steaks.

 

[PhDcat2018]

99% of all scientists disagree with you.

100% of all oil companies agree with you.

Exxon did studies in the 70s and concluded that carbon released into the air raised temperatures.

No 99% don't lol. The person that made that conclusion just read the abstracts of other research papers and didn't actually read all of them. Plus, it's just factually untrue that we are causing the climate to change at some disastrous level. It's been at least this hot or hotter(globally) 4 times in the last 400,000 YEARS. How many coal plants were churning 400,000 years ago?

 

[PhDcat2018]

We can totally stop them by getting rid of AC and steaks.

And fighting the oligawchy. I heard it straight from Bernie Sanders mouth... after he got off his private jet...

 

[SenseMaker_Cats]

I pity the weak.

 

[GJNorman1]

No 99% don't lol. The person that made that conclusion just read the abstracts of other research papers and didn't actually read all of them. Plus, it's just factually untrue that we are causing the climate to change at some disastrous level. It's been at least this hot or hotter(globally) 4 times in the last 400,000 YEARS. How many coal plants were churning 400,000 years ago?

A very strong scientific consensus exists that climate change is happening and is primarily caused by human activities. Studies and surveys consistently show that 99% or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree on this point. This consensus is supported by major scientific organizations and academies around the world.

Here's a more detailed look:

• High Consensus:
  Multiple studies, including a prominent one by John Cook and his team, have found that a vast majority of climate scientists agree on the human influence on climate change.
  
  
• Peer-Reviewed Research:
  The consensus is reflected in the peer-reviewed scientific literature, with surveys showing that over 99.9% of relevant papers support the idea of human-caused climate change.
  
  
• Leading Organizations:
  Major scientific bodies like the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), national science academies, and other reputable institutions have issued statements confirming the reality and human cause of climate change.
  
  
• Exceptions and Misconceptions:
  While a small percentage of scientists may express dissenting opinions, these are not representative of the broader scientific community and are often based on flawed or incomplete data. There can also be public misperceptions about the level of scientific agreement, with some people underestimating the extent of consensus.

 

[SenseMaker_Cats]

“I’ll allow it to stay as long as it stays on topic”. Paraphrasing but anybody else remember that? Climate change is politics.

 

[Beatle Bum]

In 2024, China initiated construction on 94.5 gigawatts of new coal-fired power plants, according to a report from Carbon Brief. This is the highest level of new coal power construction since 2015.

 

[John Henry]

It was 87 degrees at my house yesterday, down from 90 on Monday. The climate changed.

 

[GJNorman1]

China has become a global leader in renewable energy construction, particularly in wind and solar power. In 2023, China's new renewable energy capacity reached 297.6 gigawatts, representing 63% of the global expansion, according to The World Economic Forum. They are also projected to contribute 60% of the global capacity additions by 2030. Furthermore, China is currently constructing nearly two-thirds of the world's utility-scale solar and wind power projects.

Here's a more detailed look:

• Rapid Growth:
  In 2023, China's renewable energy capacity surpassed 2 billion kW, more than doubling in just 5 years.
  
  
  
• Dominance in Wind and Solar:
  China is the world's largest producer of renewable energy, particularly in wind and solar. They are building twice as much wind and solar capacity as the rest of the world combined.
  
  
• Significant Share of Global Capacity:
  As of 2023, China's renewable energy capacity reached 1,827 gigawatts, with the U.S. in second place at 428 gigawatts,

 

[Beatle Bum]

China has become a global leader in renewable energy construction, particularly in wind and solar power. In 2023, China's new renewable energy capacity reached 297.6 gigawatts, representing 63% of the global expansion, according to The World Economic Forum. They are also projected to contribute 60% of the global capacity additions by 2030. Furthermore, China is currently constructing nearly two-thirds of the world's utility-scale solar and wind power projects.

Here's a more detailed look:

• Rapid Growth:
  In 2023, China's renewable energy capacity surpassed 2 billion kW, more than doubling in just 5 years.
  
  
  
• Dominance in Wind and Solar:
  China is the world's largest producer of renewable energy, particularly in wind and solar. They are building twice as much wind and solar capacity as the rest of the world combined.
  
  
• Significant Share of Global Capacity:
  As of 2023, China's renewable energy capacity reached 1,827 gigawatts, with the U.S. in second place at 428 gigawatts,

Your head is up China’s arse. But, I agree, let’s be more like China and start building more coal powered plants, instead of buying dumb wind turbines from China.

 

[BBlueD]

China has become a global leader in renewable energy construction, particularly in wind and solar power. In 2023, China's new renewable energy capacity reached 297.6 gigawatts, representing 63% of the global expansion, according to The World Economic Forum. They are also projected to contribute 60% of the global capacity additions by 2030. Furthermore, China is currently constructing nearly two-thirds of the world's utility-scale solar and wind power projects.

Here's a more detailed look:

• Rapid Growth:
  In 2023, China's renewable energy capacity surpassed 2 billion kW, more than doubling in just 5 years.
  
  
  
• Dominance in Wind and Solar:
  China is the world's largest producer of renewable energy, particularly in wind and solar. They are building twice as much wind and solar capacity as the rest of the world combined.
  
  
• Significant Share of Global Capacity:
  As of 2023, China's renewable energy capacity reached 1,827 gigawatts, with the U.S. in second place at 428 gigawatts,

Do you suffer from climate anxiety?

 

[GJNorman1]

Do you suffer from climate anxiety?

No, I’m Healthy. I like a healthy planet and I don’t like to see people contracting cancers and pneumonia over pollution. I don’t like to see increasing frequencies of tornadoes, floods, hurricanes, drought and extreme heat. I’d like my kids and their kids to inherit a healthy planet.

 

[sefus12]

A very strong scientific consensus exists that climate change is happening and is primarily caused by human activities. Studies and surveys consistently show that 99% or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree on this point. This consensus is supported by major scientific organizations and academies around the world.

Here's a more detailed look:

• High Consensus:
  Multiple studies, including a prominent one by John Cook and his team, have found that a vast majority of climate scientists agree on the human influence on climate change.
  
  
• Peer-Reviewed Research:
  The consensus is reflected in the peer-reviewed scientific literature, with surveys showing that over 99.9% of relevant papers support the idea of human-caused climate change.
  
  
• Leading Organizations:
  Major scientific bodies like the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), national science academies, and other reputable institutions have issued statements confirming the reality and human cause of climate change.
  
  
• Exceptions and Misconceptions:
  While a small percentage of scientists may express dissenting opinions, these are not representative of the broader scientific community and are often based on flawed or incomplete data. There can also be public misperceptions about the level of scientific agreement, with some people underestimating the extent of consensus.

Was John Cook talking to the same climate scientists whose funding depends on them agreeing with man-made climate change? Odd, if so.

 

[SenseMaker_Cats]

I pity the weak.

 

[GJNorman1]

Was John Cook talking to the same climate scientists whose funding depends on them agreeing with man-made climate change? Odd, if so.

Big oil has all the money and they know Carbon causes warming.

 

[GJNorman1]

Yes, ExxonMobil (formerly Exxon) did conduct climate change studies, and these studies were surprisingly accurate in predicting the effects of burning fossil fuels on global warming. A recent study revealed that Exxon's internal research, starting in the 1970s, accurately predicted the extent of warming due to greenhouse gas emissions, sometimes even surpassing the accuracy of academic and governmental models of the time.

Here's a more detailed look:

• Early Climate Research:
  Exxon's scientists began researching climate change in the 1970s, including measuring carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere and oceans.
  
  
• Accurate Predictions:
  These studies produced projections of global warming that were remarkably accurate, estimating a warming trend of 0.2 degrees Celsius per decade, which is consistent with later findings.
  
  
• Comparison with Independent Research:
  Exxon's internal research was comparable to, and sometimes better than, the climate models developed by independent academic and government scientists.
  
  
• Contradictory Public Statements:
  Despite having this internal knowledge, Exxon's public statements and lobbying efforts often downplayed the risks of climate change, creating a disconnect between the company's internal research and its public messaging.
  
  
• Continued Research:
  ExxonMobil continues to invest in research and development related to climate solutions, including carbon capture and storage, hydrogen, and lower-emission fuels.
  

In summary, ExxonMobil's own scientific research from the 1970s onwards demonstrated a clear understanding of the link between fossil fuel use and global warming, even as the company publicly sowed doubt about the science.

 

[sefus12]

Yes, ExxonMobil (formerly Exxon) did conduct climate change studies, and these studies were surprisingly accurate in predicting the effects of burning fossil fuels on global warming. A recent study revealed that Exxon's internal research, starting in the 1970s, accurately predicted the extent of warming due to greenhouse gas emissions, sometimes even surpassing the accuracy of academic and governmental models of the time.

Here's a more detailed look:

• Early Climate Research:
  Exxon's scientists began researching climate change in the 1970s, including measuring carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere and oceans.
  
  
• Accurate Predictions:
  These studies produced projections of global warming that were remarkably accurate, estimating a warming trend of 0.2 degrees Celsius per decade, which is consistent with later findings.
  
  
• Comparison with Independent Research:
  Exxon's internal research was comparable to, and sometimes better than, the climate models developed by independent academic and government scientists.
  
  
• Contradictory Public Statements:
  Despite having this internal knowledge, Exxon's public statements and lobbying efforts often downplayed the risks of climate change, creating a disconnect between the company's internal research and its public messaging.
  
  
• Continued Research:
  ExxonMobil continues to invest in research and development related to climate solutions, including carbon capture and storage, hydrogen, and lower-emission fuels.

In summary, ExxonMobil's own scientific research from the 1970s onwards demonstrated a clear understanding of the link between fossil fuel use and global warming, even as the company publicly sowed doubt about the science.

Curious… which AI tool do you use to pull all your headlines?

And there’s no need to argue with you. I will continue to think it’s arrogant beyond belief to think that we (humans) are hurting the Earth at some startling rate. Earth has seen FAR worse than what we have right now and climate change is simply the newest tool in funneling billions and billions of dollars to certain groups. At the end of the day the earth is gonna earth, no matter what humans do. Giving up steaks and trying to power our grid with nothing but renewables won’t change that.

 

[John Henry]

No, I’m Healthy. I like a healthy planet and I don’t like to see people contracting cancers and pneumonia over pollution. I don’t like to see increasing frequencies of tornadoes, floods, hurricanes, drought and extreme heat. I’d like my kids and their kids to inherit a healthy planet.

You are so dense it is scary. Hurricanes did not start with the election of Donald Trump. Things are mild compared to what our ancestors faced. We have 3 times the population now so what do you expect? In today's world you do not have to die in a hurricane, we have plenty of warning to avoid death. Not so for those who came before us.

Be thankful you didn't live before 1900. Where was "climate change" before these events? Without hurricanes, Florida would be Arizona. Hurricanes bring precious rain and if a person is dumb enough to build on the coast, things may happen.

• The Devastation of Galveston (1900)

• The Unprecedented Destruction of the Atlantic-Gulf Hurricane (1919)

• The Terror of the Great Miami Hurricane (1926)

• The Destruction of the Okeechobee Hurricane (1928)

• The Calamity of the Labor Day Hurricane (1935)

 

[GJNorman1]

Curious… which AI tool do you use to pull all your headlines?

And there’s no need to argue with you. I will continue to think it’s arrogant beyond belief to think that we (humans) are hurting the Earth at some startling rate. Earth has seen FAR worse than what we have right now and climate change is simply the newest tool in funneling billions and billions of dollars to certain groups. At the end of the day the earth is gonna earth, no matter what humans do. Giving up steaks and trying to power our grid with nothing but renewables won’t change that.

If you wanna know the facts, without name calling, Try googling or safari-‘ing Exxon’s global warming study

 

[BBlueD]

No, I’m Healthy.

It's ok to admit your struggle. The odds would be against you being healthy with your viewpoints. Most people with your viewpoints have emhoff's issues. I'm curious to what anxiety meds you are taking to get through these uncertain and unprecedented times?

 

[GJNorman1]

It's ok to admit your struggle. The odds would be against you being healthy with your viewpoints. Most people with your viewpoints have emhoff's issues. I'm curious to what anxiety meds you are taking to get through these uncertain and unprecedented times?

I appreciate your sincere concern. I’m med free. My faith in our Heavenly Father keeps me balanced and free of anxiety.

 

[Beatle Bum]

I appreciate your sincere concern. I’m med free. My faith in our Heavenly Father keeps me balanced and free of anxiety.

Then you ought to start be truthful about China.

 

[GJNorman1]

China is leading the world on Solar Panels and EV sales by a huge margin.


In the first half of 2025, China's electric vehicle (EV) sales accounted for roughly 50% of global EV sales, while the United States accounted for around 7%. This means China's EV market is significantly larger than the US market, with China selling about seven times more EVs than the US.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• China:
  BloombergNEF estimates that China's EV sales are expected to reach nearly two-thirds of global EV sales. Specifically, Electrek reports that China's EV sales made up over 50% of all passenger car sales in the first half of 2025, with a large percentage of these being battery electric vehicles (BEVs).
  
  
• United States:
  The US EV market share is considerably smaller, with BloombergNEF stating it at about 7% of global sales. Electrek adds that the US EV market share has stalled at 6.5%.
  
  
• Global Context:
  BloombergNEF forecasts a record year for EV sales globally, with almost 22 million units expected to be sold. China is clearly leading the way in this global growth, with Europe at 17% and the US at 7%.

 

[GJNorman1]

China has significantly outpaced the United States in solar panel installations. China added more solar capacity in 2023 alone than the total installed capacity in the US, and they are projected to continue their dominance in solar energy.

Elaboration:

• China's Dominance:
  China is the world leader in renewable energy, particularly solar power, and they have a massive lead in manufacturing capacity.
  
  
• Scale of Difference:
  China's solar capacity additions in 2023 (216.9 gigawatts) were more than the total installed capacity in the US.
  
  
• US Efforts:
  While the US has made strides in solar energy, their overall capacity and manufacturing capabilities lag far behind China.
  
  
• Reasons for China's Lead:
  China's dominance is due to significant government investment in solar manufacturing, which has allowed them to control a large portion of the global supply chain.
  
  
• Implications:
  China's dominance in solar energy has implications for global energy markets and the transition to clean energy.

 

[SenseMaker_Cats]

GJ, are you one of these two guys?

https://journals.law.harvard.edu/elr/wp-content/uploads/sites/79/2024/04/02_HLE_48_1_Arkush-Braman.pdf

 

[Beatle Bum]

Seems like AbbyNorman is a commie pushing propaganda for the big Red coal Covid polluter.