Teabagger just plea bargained - case closed

WrapItDog

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"Downing pled guilty, the charges were reduced from sexual battery and obscenity to two charges of obscenity."

Why two charges of obscenity? One for each nut?
 

BoomBoom.sixpack

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Depends on the details. Minimum security, probably with weekend releases etc., and no sex offender status, then hell yeah that's a good deal over facing 10 years in prison. But if it's 2 years in hard core prison....eh, not so much IMO. I figure if i can do 2 i can do 10, so might as well roll the dice. And i don't figure i can do 2.
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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Unfortunately, he didn't give the guy at Krystals the option of "doing 2".

2 years is a slap on the wrist for sexual assault.
 

Hump4Hoops

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Did you really want the book thrown at this guy?

What good would society be done by throwing some overgrown fratboy in hardcore jail for years, then labeling him a sex offender?
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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So the next time you are passed out in some public place, someone might think twice before using your face as a scrotum buffer. Just looking out for you.
 

tenureplan

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Don't pass out in public places and get nuts in your face. Switch to Direct TV.

The "victim" should have gotten a public drunk charge.
 

paindonthurt_

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This. Public drunk is a crime too right?

Don't pass out in public places and get nuts in your face. Switch to Direct TV.

The "victim" should have gotten a public drunk charge.

Looks it sucks he got balls in his face, but its not sexual assualt. The guys didn't deserve to have his life ruined by being dumb. Did he deserve some punishment? Sure he did but not prison time.
 

Spanky.sixpack

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Horrible, horrible attitude. The worst way to look at it.....

How about this. Don't go out in public if you don't want somebody to pull a gun on you. Right.

The victim may have gotten a public drunk charge. If he did, probably warranted.

But this other waste of flesh's crime is a separate issue. Idiot.
 

Lawdawg.sixpack

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Yeah, but if you get two, you'll really only do a few months. And that ain't so bad. Plus he's probably a good candidate for house arrest for the bulk of those few months. Plus he probably avoided felony charges on his record.

But if you fight and get ten, you're staring at at least a few years one way or the other.
 

patdog

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Again I ask, how can putting your balls on someone's face not be a sexual battery? Of course it's not like he raped someone or was abusing children. That's why he wasn't charged with rape or child abuse. But putting your balls on someone's face is pretty much the definition of sexual battery.
 

ckDOG

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Think of it this way, if he's willing to do that to someone in public

it makes me feel uneasy about what he may do to an incapacitated person when other folks aren't looking. Remember, he did this to a stranger. Maybe the incapacitated person is someone's sister or mother next time? Maybe it's a mentally handicapped person next time? Instead of Krystal, she might be passed out on someone's couch or anywhere else he doesn't have to worry as much about those pesky prying eyes.

If you do something sexual to a person that can't defend against your aggression, you deserve a stiff punishment regardless if your intention was a joke or not. You have established yourself as having poor judgment and an endangerment to people that can't defend themselves. You need to be taught a lesson.
 

TUSK.sixpack

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Let's not discount WHERE he passed out, either... Bourbon St.... yeah, nuthin' can go wrong there...
 

TUSK.sixpack

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I both undestand and appreciate your angle, Pat...

but does "intent" come in to play in your mind?
 

patdog

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Are you suggesting that he didn't intend to put his balls on the guy's face? I will concede that if they somehow accidentally came out and accidentally brushed against the guy's face, then it probably wasn't sexual battery. I really don't think that's what happened though.
 

TUSK.sixpack

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CITIZENS ARREST! CITIZENS ARREST! that's virtual sexual ASSAULT....

you just made a suggestive comment on my username...

I'm tellin' Spanky!
 

tenureplan

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By intent I think he meant this clause that alot of states have "for purposes of sexual arousal, sexual gratification or sexual abuse...". Louisiana does not have that clause.
 

TUSK.sixpack

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no, buddy, I'm sure he meant to do what he did....

and I realize I'm splitting hairs....

I think his intent wasn't to "sexually assault" the guy... just embarrass him and have (sick) fun....

I'm not a lawyer and I realize that's a very slippery slope, too...

What he did was very very wrong, but to want to put someone in the big house for a long time then ruin their life forever is just excessive to me... we've got "actual" sex offenders to be concerned with instead of further bastardizing the system.
 

ckDOG

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Well I guess the next time I speed, I should expect balls on my forehead

instead of the traditional ticket. I mean, in context, it would be hilarious to passerby or two. A cop tea bagging a speeder? Never been done before..not even in Super Troopers!
 

tommyboy1520

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I think he means that it wasn't done with an intention towards sexual gratification. granted, he used his sex organs as a means to humiliate someone, but did he do it for his own sexual gratification? I don't know. I can't read his mind, but I doubt it. Not saying he was right or wrong or should receive a lighter/harsher sentence, but the question of intent would apply more to his motivations for doing it rather than the act itself. That's how I read it at least.
 

patdog

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Using that logic, he could have butt raped the guy and it would have been fine since his intent was just to embarrass him and have some sick fun. I agree this isn't nearly as bad as what a rapist or child abuser has done and I think the plea bargain was a fair deal for both sides. But there's just no way in the world to deny there was a sexual nature to his crime. There were a lot of other ways he could have embarrassed the guy and had some sick fun that wouldn't have led to anything like the charges he was facing or pled guilty to.
 

dawgs.sixpack

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it makes me feel uneasy about what he may do to an incapacitated person when other folks aren't looking. Remember, he did this to a stranger. Maybe the incapacitated person is someone's sister or mother next time? Maybe it's a mentally handicapped person next time? Instead of Krystal, she might be passed out on someone's couch or anywhere else he doesn't have to worry as much about those pesky prying eyes.

If you do something sexual to a person that can't defend against your aggression, you deserve a stiff punishment regardless if your intention was a joke or not. You have established yourself as having poor judgment and an endangerment to people that can't defend themselves. You need to be taught a lesson.

i disagree. i think this guy just thought it was funny. we all know a couple of people who either teabag someone or received a ********** while passed out. it's one of those immature drunk college pranks that kids have been pulling on their passed out buddies for decades. i don't think these guys are closet serious molesters who are just waiting to rape a passed out girl or dip their balls on someone's sleeping grandmother or mentally/physically disabled cousin or whatever.

big fine, significant community service, and tort liability (should the victim pursue it) are more than enough deterrent to the average citizen. and if someone is sick enough to continue tea bagging after that kinda punishment, then they are a threat to society and nothing short of life in prison will protect inoocents from unsuspecting teabaggings.
 

DancingRabbit

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I read where he will probably serve about 9 months. That seems fairly reasonable. Based on what I know of the case I would have suggested 3-6 months of actual jail time plus some fines and probation.
 

muddawgs

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Really?

it makes me feel uneasy about what he may do to an incapacitated person when other folks aren't looking. Remember, he did this to a stranger. Maybe the incapacitated person is someone's sister or mother next time? Maybe it's a mentally handicapped person next time? Instead of Krystal, she might be passed out on someone's couch or anywhere else he doesn't have to worry as much about those pesky prying eyes.

If you do something sexual to a person that can't defend against your aggression, you deserve a stiff punishment regardless if your intention was a joke or not. You have established yourself as having poor judgment and an endangerment to people that can't defend themselves. You need to be taught a lesson.

Come man it wasn't like he got caught dead fishing a dead hooker. Anyone that has been wasted on bourbon street knows Stupid **** happens. This guy was wasted and one of his buddies probably dared him to do it and just like any wasted person they thought it would be funny. Lets not label him a future pedophile or date rapist over something he did that he thought was funny when he was drunk. Ive seen worse than what this guy did, he just made the mistake of getting filmed doing it.
 

HumpDawgy

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Was he the lone teabagger or was there a 2nd in the grassy gnoll?

At least the teabagger didn't poison the guy's tree. Now that would call for a maximum sentence.
 

Dawg Jurist

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I am a lawyer, and I think the guy is a 17ing sick ******* who took his testicles out in a public restaurant--TOOK HIS TESTICLES OUT IN A PUBLIC RESTAURANT-- and rubbed them on a stranger's face. Jesus Christ. I hope this sick bastard need a new sphincter when he gets out. I see people go to jail over much less heinous offenses.

What he did was 17ED UP! He got off easy.
 

Hump4Hoops

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Remind me never to ask for legal advice from you

Either you're an internet lawyer much in the way that one is an internet badass, or you're just an awful lawyer.
 

Dawg Jurist

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I'll say this,

He. Took. His. Balls. Out. In. A. Restaurant. And. Rubbed. Them. On. A. Stranger's. Face.


People who have done less have suffered more at the hands of the law than this guy.

And anyone who is just trying to say this was a prank or that this guy was just being a frat boy has a seriously skewed view of reality. This is a grown man. He saw a stranger passed out. He rubbed part of his genitalia on the stranger's face. Had it been a girl, I doubt we'd be having this discussion.