Tennessee slapped with huge sexual assault lawsuit.
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No biggie, but if I get banned I will haunt you for the rest of your LIFE or not. lol
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/footba...im-loves-Vols-more-than-law-?urn=ncaaf,202271
It's the culture. Notice what the robbery victim says about the UT football players who committed the crime.
It's the culture. Notice what the robbery victim says about the UT football players who committed the crime.
I bet dobbs is the one who goes by 'John Doe'. Really ugly, freakishly nasty looking character he is, no way any woman would consent to that guy.
You do know that this incident occurred Kiffen was the head coach - 7 years ago ? Things/culture has changed under Jones.
So, you're saying they finally got that rotting sewer smell out of Neyland? Good for you folks!
If this happened under Kiffen then it's only right to penalize Butch Jones' current players who were freshman in high school when this stuff went down.
So long as Uwe Teey is placed on probation justice will have been served.
So long as Uwe Teey is placed on probation justice will have been served.
If the violations you are talking about are about the lawsuit , then you should know that those violations were over several years and according to a study published by a newspaper (name escapes me ) UT's violations were below the national norm at ncaaa campuses. This fact doesn't excuse the violations but shows that this kind of behavior is common across the country. Does the fact that there have been several fights/incidents involving uk football players in the last year ot two show that uk fosters a culture of violence ?
Really? AJ was the star of the defense last year, I could have sworn Butch Jones was the coach of the Vols last year. He wasn't recruited by Kiffin, probably never even met him. There were more than AJ involved last year, maybe the John Doe who is still on the team, who very likely was recruited by Butch. He is still on the team, probably a contributor or he wouldn't be, so lets not act like Butch is a bastion of goodness and all that is right. He kept him on the team because he could help him win.
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This incident is terrible and is not acceptable. However, I would say that from what I know about the incident that it may not be as simple as it appears to be. This has been almost a year and a half ago and nothing has happened legally, which tells me that there may not be enough evidence to proceed. In fact, there is a legal precident in Tenn about disclosure on the alledged victim's cell phone going through the courts as we speak- apparently she was bragging about it and had it in mind to go to their apartment for such action. All I can tell you about this is that let the legal process play out. As for Coach Jones, he immediately suspended both from the team an they never came back. Jones also kicked off a recruit who was committed and signed with Tenn. but had an alterecation with his girlfriend. A coach can only do so much, players have to take responsibility for their actions. Can you say that this kind of incident hasn't occurred at uk in the past or for that matter will not occur in the future ?
Go back and read what I was initially referring to -it was an article about the robbery during Kiffens stay . Before you speak you should know what you are talking about. The AJ incident was separate from my initial response. Going to sleep. see ya
And quit trying to deflect the article was headlined about the sexual assault that occurred under Butch's watch and the trials are scheduled for this summer. Kiffin recruited some bad apples, so did Dooley, but lets not act like Butch is recruiting choir boys who spend Saturday nights helping little old ladies cross the street. One charged with sexual assault is still on the team for crying out loud. Everyone else kicks them off, even Saban, John Doe must be an important member of the team for him to risk the PR nightmare of keeping him.
LMAO at the Vol pointing a finger at UK FOOTBALL for fostering a culture of violence. (1) As stated above, "Several?", and (2) I can think of more than 120 other FBS schools whose football programs are doing the same thing. Violence = Apple. Sexual Violence = Orange (apparently).
What about the 2 going on trial this summer for sexual assault, usually when a case there has to be enough evidence to get an indictment. So he kicked off someone who have never been to a UT practice, who is the John Doe still on the team the op's link mentioned?
But a UT athlete getting indicted in Knoxville must have been overwhelming evidence, not too log ago 8 of them left a cop unconcious laying in the street and nothing, it was like it didn't happen. This happened under Fulmer, but UT signed a kid who sexually assaulted a UF coed on a previous official visit. UT has never back away from a football player because of a shady past.
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One of those going on trial this summer had sideline passes THIS PAST SEASON. Even for UT that's outrageous.
There is a culture in Knoxville that will be found out. Problem with a lawsuit and UT, they can subpoena emails, phone records, witnesses. There has been a culture over there for a long time, the Lawyer UT uses is same guy every case. I think you will see some major bomb shells and guys will lose jobs, apparently some of the ladies have hired some big time lawyers who are looking for a piece of flesh. I spoke to a guy last night here in Knoxville who knew a lot about this from UT' side of things and said he is worried and UT is worried. He thought when all is said and done there will heads rolling to some degree.
These guys did play for Butch Jones, one guy was leading tackler 3 years ago.
IMO
These guys did play for Butch Jones, one guy was leading tackler 3 years ago.
IMO
College athletic "culture" is going downhill fast. Penn State scandal, UL stripper parties, Vandy rape case, Jameis Winston, UNC academic fraud, now UT, Florida under UM had how many felony charges? Not counting triple murderer Aaron Hernandez. Does anyone really doubt that Cam Newton's dad got paid an *** load of money for him to play for Auburn?
It is not a pretty picture, getting harder for me to care, to be honest with you.
It is not a pretty picture, getting harder for me to care, to be honest with you.
Pathetic. Knoxville and athlete behavior there is a cesspool. Maybe think like a rational human being as opposed to thinking like an idiot fan would help. But whatever.
True and the same day this was announced the feds nailed 8 more of Jimmy Haslam's crooks and are now one step away from Haslam himself. Significance is this may start drying up UT's money pool as Haslam is a massive major contributor.
The accusers in the AJ Johnson deal destroyed their cell phones the very next day and the defense is trying to get the phone records (texts) but the girls lawyers are trying to block it. I know if I was a female and I was raped, I wouldn't be trying to hide evidence that could put these animals in jail. Also in the KNS said all of these accusations happened off campus. This is a quote from the law suite on why the girls are suing. "Girls went to after football game parties where alcohol was being served. The girls drank the alcohol and are now suing the university for not providing a safe environment."
So basically girl goes to party and gets drunk, now sues the university for not providing a safe environment. This is called a money grab.
So basically girl goes to party and gets drunk, now sues the university for not providing a safe environment. This is called a money grab.
Can't link but saw a story that drae Bowles tried to help one of the rape victims and drove her home and he was outcast by the team and was targeted during practices. He had to leave ut. He has been subpoenaed by the plaintiff.
Right, under Kiffin it was only hushing up robberies
now under ***** Jones it is hushing up rapes, sexual assaults, and assaults on the very few very scarce good guys at UT who had the nerve to stick up for girls who were brutalized by your band of thugs, criminals, and marauders.
What an awful, awful place Knoxville is, always has been always will be. Shame on any parent who sends their kids there - football players, normal students, especially females.
Also the girls are not suing the university because of rape, they are saying the university permitted an environment that allowed these incidents to happen. It's like walking down the city street and tripping over a piece of concrete, if you can prove the city knew about the sidewalk you have a lawsuit.
I'm just glad an iPhone will allow you to take screen shots of people accusing others of rape and covering up rape.
Lost whatever cred you might have with the mention of the KNS. Knoxville media is an extension of the UT athletic dept, has been for decades. KNS make the Louisville CJ/Lexington HL look like the NY Times.
The KNS absolutely hates the university, why do you think they would run this if they were part of the coverup?
So its ok to get a girl drunk and rape her? What are you saying, Johnson was a representative of UT,by being a member of the football team. There was enough to indict him which means there was something there, DA's don't present cases to grand juries if there isn't some evidence and grand juries don't indict unless they believe there is something there.
It's no excuse but what happens is these girls go to these parties with the intent of normal intimacy. What happens is there treated like garbage smacked around and have a line of giant football players ready to run a train. At this point there is no way out of the situation for the females.
Yes. AJ Johnson forced alcohol down a girls throat and then raped her with 2 other girls in the room and over 100 people at a party at his house. Then after they press charges, the very next day all 3 women in the room destroyed their personal cell phones and the lawyers are trying to keep the phone records out of court. You put 2 and 2 together.
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