Terry Smith, JF, recruiting and this team going forward.
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Again your info is different than what I'm hearing. There's multiple coordinators at the top (or near the top) of the list.
We need Tom to share his inside info lol
That concerns me. Rhule just comes across as an underdog guy. Yeah, he won at Temple, but didn't Golden and Addazio? Sure, he turned Baylor around, but they were good before Briles got in trouble and the Big 12 is trash. At Carolina, he sucked. At Nebraska, he's been average. What does he do well that screams "hire me?"
He's an alum and letterman. That's it. I mean, he hired an Air Raid coach (Holgerson) and told him not to install the AR. Why?
I'd rather hire Fleck and say "what do you need?" Because he's done way more with way less than most candidates.
If he can bring WRs to State College, Brian Hartline. Just my take.
If this isn't a home run hire, Kraft should be fired.
He should be fired if it’s Rhule, who I believe is one of the finalists for the position. I cannot unsee the Friday night Nebraska game and all of the associated statistics of Nebraska 2025. He’s in his third year and that program has deep pockets.
Do you know if Mullen has real interest? Always thought we should go the way of a QB guru given the program's lack of QB development.
And he likely will be if the new coach doesn't win vs ranked teams.
I don't like Rhule as the pick either. If you want somebody like him, I'd prefer Campbell who has done more with less.
I do not I only know they have kicked the tires on him as they have done with many coaches.
Out of curiosity, when you say ‘kick the tires,’ does that usually just mean reaching out to the coach’s agent?
Dumest thing I haver heard. If he didn't already have someone lined up, then he will be out of a job in a few years as well. I also thought it was time for Franklin to go, but you don't make that move, lose recruits and current players just to throw **** at the wall at see what sticks.
Do we have a lack of QB development or did JF keep hiring OC's that didn't fit our QB skill Set?
Yes Kraft has and deservedly do. He was the AD at Temple but his press release and press conference made it look like this was his first rodeo.
And it doesn’t absolve Terry Smith either big guy. Isn’t he the new guy setting a new course?
Oh so now we WSNT Franklin to meddle. You guys are freaking hilarious. My favorite post was the guy who claimed Smith had “no chance” to beat Iowa because of the lousy roster assembled by Franklin, this despite the fact Penn State lost by 1 pt, had an 11 point second half lead and almost 4 minutes to go down the field to kick a winning FG.
Well I guess we will see if Kraft backs up his big talk won’t we?
This has been consistent under Franklin but we have OL players that are playing in the pros. I believe the OL have the skills and it is the blocking schemes that are not putting them in the best positions to be successful. Why does it seem like the ball carrier is always making first contact with a defender in the backfield a majority of the time? Even against teams we should man handle, the DL is making contact in our backfield.
Also, as others keep saying, "Franklin is a great recruiter" but is he really? When have our recruiting classes been ranked up in the Top 5 every year? I think the PSU PR machine creates a lot more hype around things then reality when compared to winning programs across the country.
Lastly, I am willing to give Terry Smith a chance. We shouldn't expect all the problems would be fixed in a weeks time(between Northwestern game and Iowa game), that is just not reality. Now, there is a bye week followed by 2 games against the #1 and #2 teams in the country. I do expect to see improvements but I don't expect a win. Can they fix the blocking schemes? Not likely but they need to be willing to. Can they fix the WR routes so WR can create separation? I think so. Only time will tell. I don't see PSU hiring anyone until the season is over.
Where did I state it absolved Terry Smith? My comment was a response to your’s stating Franklin hadn’t been meddling with AK’s playcalling.
Smith gets less blame for the Iowa game as HC than Franklin received for prior games as he didn’t hire AK, and he didn’t acquire any responsibilities about the offense until the Sunday afternoon prior to the Iowa game. That’s just a less time than the previous guy.
If you can't get a Saban or Meyer, go after a guy like Hartline with a 5-year deal. Having played and coached at Ohio State, he understands what it takes to build a winner. Top position coach in the country, great recruiter. PSU will spend to get top coordinators and he will have no shortage of cash to go after guys in the portal until he can build his recruiting base.
No.
However, he was RESPONSIBLE for all football-related issues as the head coach.
I realize that you are incapable of grasping these higher level concepts, you will just have to deal with it.
Please stop the drama queen posts, it does nothing for your credibility.
You realize a coach is almost never "lined up" when the previous coach is fired, right?
Why wouldn't you interview people?
As you said "it was time for Franklin to go"--that remains true regardless of what happens next
Who are "you guys"?
I don't hate Franklin--he deserved to be fired
The HC is ultimately responsible for all the decisions made....period.
Smith had a great chance to win but failed to do so.
You have something lined up so you don't make a huge mistake on the next hire. I guess George Steinbrenner didn't know what he was doing winning all those titles because that thought came from him. Like him or not a bunch of schools would die for what we have had over the past 12 years. You don't dump that for a worse version of it or to take a chance that someone would come. Do you think Billion dollar companies simply put an ad in the newspaper? No, when theyu fire, they know who they gonna hire.
This is incorrect and almost never true. If you're hire someone without conducting interviews you're setting yourself up to fail.
Not sure what Steinbrenner decision you're referring to...he said lots of crazy things though
What do you mean "worse version"? There's no guarantee with any hire. The only certain thing was that change was necessary.
No billion dollar companies have a short list...corporate attorney. Almost none simply hire someone without meeting with multiple people.
You're not making any sense here.
Eight teams have won more games than PSU has over the last five years. Eight.
And I don't think any of the coaches responsible are coming our way.
I recently read somewhere that Franklins composite recruiting class ranking over the last 5 years was 14. That’s not even in the top end. He was a good, but not great recruiter, not that good with the X’s and O’s, and a terrible game day coach.
Steinbrenner just another crackpot who could buy his way into or out of anything. Having money doesn't make you a genius. But it doesn't hurt to have inherited the bank.
Drama queen posts? Apparently you are too stupid to recognize sarcasm and here you are attacking my credibility.
I didn’t state otherwise. I’m just not going to be as harsh to a guy who had 6 days with any responsibilities associated with the offense compared to the guy who had years (and hired AK). I’m not complimenting Smith about Iowa.
There is a degree of criticism. I would criticize Franklin less about Oregon than I would about UCLA and/or NW.
This was not a talent issue. Penn State's blue chip ratio is 68% compared to Iowa's which is 14%. This was coaching malpractice. The same applies to UCLA and Northwestern.
We can agree to disagree.
What we are seeing is that CJFs recruiting was good from an overall standpoint, but....
1. Has too many holes. He was great at recruiting DBs and RBs, but WR, DT and LB are major holes that opponents take advantage of.
2. Scheme and personnel mismatch. I think Allar is the prime example here.
I don't think our talent advantage is what we think it is, because we don't have enough talent in certain areas.