Tied at 2-2. Texas hasn't scored since the 2nd inning and BC last scored in the 6th. Texas pitcher Austin Wood has thrown 10 1/3 innings of scoreless ball in relief, matched by BC pitcher Mike Belfiore, who has thrown 9 scoreless innings in relief. Texas is the No. 1 overall seed.
Texas and Boston College going into top of 18th
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Tied at 2-2. Texas hasn't scored since the 2nd inning and BC last scored in the 6th. Texas pitcher Austin Wood has thrown 10 1/3 innings of scoreless ball in relief, matched by BC pitcher Mike Belfiore, who has thrown 9 scoreless innings in relief. Texas is the No. 1 overall seed.
Wood pitched 13 innings and gave up just 2 hits. I'm not much for hyperbole, but that might have been the best pitching performance in college baseball history. I wonder how many pitches he threw.
Gave up one run on a home run that skipped off of the top of the fence- this was the LSU team that hit at least one home run in every game they played- and he struck out 18.
(This is probably biased)
(This is probably biased)
They were talking about pitch counts on MLB Network Strasburg threw 100 and something, I can't remember, but the host asked Mitch Williams and Joe Magrane if that was too many pitches and if that could hurt Strasburg's draft stock.
They both laughed.
Williams said if you have good mechanics, you can throw as long as you want. I don't know if I totally agree with that, but I do thin the pitch count thing with Whitney has been blown WAY out of proportion.
Oh, and how many NC's does Garrido have?
They both laughed.
Williams said if you have good mechanics, you can throw as long as you want. I don't know if I totally agree with that, but I do thin the pitch count thing with Whitney has been blown WAY out of proportion.
Oh, and how many NC's does Garrido have?
Whitney's 145 pitch outing look like Little League. But I do disagree with those who don't think pitch count matters much. Ask Lane Mestapay about pitch counts and how it can affect your arm. Anything about about 120 is too many in my opinion. Skip Bertman sacrificed arms for national titles and it looks like Augie is doing the same.
The old record is 19 innings. There is a 1988 NYT article that mentions a 22-inning game between Colorado and Nebraska in 1974 (Buffaloes won 2-1). I don't know if it's since been surpassed.
He had surgery and sat out the following year, came back his redshirt sophomore year but was pretty much ineffective. I'm not discounting what multiple stretches of high pitch counts can do to arms, but Mestapay's injury was due to tradition rich act of stupidity.
i'm not that worried about pitch counts- the key is rest between those high counts. I stretched some guys in HS to 130 or so a couple of times, but I made sure they had at least 7 days off afterwards. And we always iced immediately after games. My guys had to run a 1/2 mile after 100+ pitch starts with ice taped to shoulder and elbow...
TJ Forrest- former player pitching for UPig this season- stretched him to 135 in a big game that we won his Soph year...didnt worry much because TJ was a FB and change pitcher...he got plenty of rest and was fine as we went on and lost in the championship to a 2nd round draft pick. Dad gets mad at me for that and making TJ lift weights (he didnt think TJ needed to lift in-season)...makes TJ transfer to rival school because their coach said he didnt have to lift weights. TJ sits out his Jr season of HS because I won't release him...TJ hurts his arm under his new coach midway through the season his Sr year and has to have Tommy John, costing him a top 5 round draft slot...altho he did end up at LSU his Freshman year
Parents dont know **** and need to stay the hell out of the way. If TJ stays with us and stays on the weights, he doesnt get TJohn surgery and wins a state championship
TJ Forrest- former player pitching for UPig this season- stretched him to 135 in a big game that we won his Soph year...didnt worry much because TJ was a FB and change pitcher...he got plenty of rest and was fine as we went on and lost in the championship to a 2nd round draft pick. Dad gets mad at me for that and making TJ lift weights (he didnt think TJ needed to lift in-season)...makes TJ transfer to rival school because their coach said he didnt have to lift weights. TJ sits out his Jr season of HS because I won't release him...TJ hurts his arm under his new coach midway through the season his Sr year and has to have Tommy John, costing him a top 5 round draft slot...altho he did end up at LSU his Freshman year
Parents dont know **** and need to stay the hell out of the way. If TJ stays with us and stays on the weights, he doesnt get TJohn surgery and wins a state championship
Tim Lincecum is going to have a higher pitch count than say, Chris Carpenter.
120 is standard, but it depends on things like amount of rest, how the guy is throwing, control and velocity, is the guy hitting his spots or is the ball going up in the zone?, and is the pitcher a "max effort" guy.
And as far as Skip Bertman- he has ruined his share of arms, but he also has gotten his share to the big leagues- Ben McDonald, Paul Byrd, Chad Ogea, Brian Tallet, Russ Springer, Rick Greene and Shane Youman are all guys off the top off my head. Byrd and Springer in particular have had long careers. Ogea won 18 games in 95 I believe.
Kurt Ainsworth, Lloyd Peever, Ed Yarnell, Mestepay, and Brett Laxton are some of the guys that he "ruined", although I thought that Laxton was kind of overrated. And while those guys may have been ruined, they at least were drafted pretty high to where they at least got some money out of it.
Garrido and Bertman are hardly the only coaches to extend pitchers to win championships in college.
120 is standard, but it depends on things like amount of rest, how the guy is throwing, control and velocity, is the guy hitting his spots or is the ball going up in the zone?, and is the pitcher a "max effort" guy.
And as far as Skip Bertman- he has ruined his share of arms, but he also has gotten his share to the big leagues- Ben McDonald, Paul Byrd, Chad Ogea, Brian Tallet, Russ Springer, Rick Greene and Shane Youman are all guys off the top off my head. Byrd and Springer in particular have had long careers. Ogea won 18 games in 95 I believe.
Kurt Ainsworth, Lloyd Peever, Ed Yarnell, Mestepay, and Brett Laxton are some of the guys that he "ruined", although I thought that Laxton was kind of overrated. And while those guys may have been ruined, they at least were drafted pretty high to where they at least got some money out of it.
Garrido and Bertman are hardly the only coaches to extend pitchers to win championships in college.
BC has used seven pitchers in the game while Texas has only used 3. Texas has gone 21 innings since they scored a run.
Most of these college pitchers pitch once a week and then have six days off. Not only that, but their season is significantly shorter than MLB's.
The 120 pitch count thing comes from MLB.
The 120 pitch count thing comes from MLB.
Now the longest game in NCAA baseball history. The Cubs played a game like this back in the 80s. Forgot who it was against. Played the first 17 or so on one day and had to call it because of darkness (this was before Wrigley had lights) they came back the next day and played about 6 more innings before the Cubs finally lost. I think the final was 2-1.
This is unreal. Whoever loses this game is going to risk running out of pitchers if they plan on getting anywhere near the latter stages of a deciding championship game on Monday.
BFB
BFB
about pitching your closer for 14 innings. You save your bullpen. (Relatively speaking in this case)
Of course, Texas probably has burned their closer for the rest of the Regional. Doesn't mean that they won't trot him out there again though.
I'll call this right now- Texas wins because BC runs out of pitchers.
Of course, Texas probably has burned their closer for the rest of the Regional. Doesn't mean that they won't trot him out there again though.
I'll call this right now- Texas wins because BC runs out of pitchers.
Texas scores in top of 25th. Up 3-2 now. Anybody besides me think BC scratches a run across in the bottom of the inning to tie it back up?
The last time they were this happy, they were running a tank through Saddam Hussein's front door.
You could also give it to James Carroll...threw 14 Innings of 4 hit baseball against Alabama's Ken Stabler to get a 2-1 when with Del Unser scoring the winning runTodd4State said: