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I’m not the smartest guy but it would seem to me that maybe someone might suggest to Texas and Oklahoma that there is more incentive long term to stay. Should they go in the SEC, and I’m also going to be careful saying this because I think the SEC is largely overrated, they’ll lose multiple games a year and have less chance to make the playoff. Oklahoma damn near has a seat every year now, go to the SEC and they lose multiple games a year. Just my 2 cents
 

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Its all about money if they were looking for the easiest path to the playoff they would be making the jump to the sunbelt.
 

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Pretty clear they are working in conjunction with networks to eliminate the BIG 12 and move its value elsewhere.

The remaining core needs to hold out on making moves until UT/ OU and their network partner have paid the remainder for these moves.
 

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Are you suggesting WVU jump to the Sunbelt?
The op stated that Texas and Oklahoma should reconsider moving to the sec because they would have a harder time making the playoff. In theory the statement is true but the move is about money. If teams made moves based on making their path to the playoff easier then I'm sure increasing the competition is the last thing they would do.
 

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Its all about money if they were looking for the easiest path to the playoff they would be making the jump to the sunbelt.
I hear that, however the money at Sunbelt does not compare to Big 12 money. I’m skeptical that the money in the long run will benefit Texas and Oklahoma when they’re not making the playoff discussion every year.
 

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Oklahoma has what it takes to compete in SEC. Texas is just a has been with lots of money.

I guarantee SEC is not overrated.
 

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The SEC doesn’t play a lot of OOC games to prove themselves. Their conference schedule inflates their perception. Look at how we competed with Alabama years ago as an example. By all rights, we shouldn’t have been in that game.
 

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The SEC doesn’t play a lot of OOC games to prove themselves. Their conference schedule inflates their perception. Look at how we competed with Alabama years ago as an example. By all rights, we shouldn’t have been in that game.
If..If...If...If the if never loses. SEC is not overrated.
 

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I hear that, however the money at Sunbelt does not compare to Big 12 money. I’m skeptical that the money in the long run will benefit Texas and Oklahoma when they’re not making the playoff discussion every year.
I was just using it as a figure of speech. Texas and Oklahoma are moving because of the paycheck. Vanderbilt is not going to move to a lesser power 5 conference even though it might benefit them on the playing field. Its all about the paycheck.
 

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Pretty clear they are working in conjunction with networks to eliminate the BIG 12 and move its value elsewhere.

The remaining core needs to hold out on making moves until UT/ OU and their network partner have paid the remainder for these moves.

That’s not the way this works. It’s every man for himself. It’s like this is your first rodeo.
 

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That’s not the way this works. It’s every man for himself. It’s like this is your first rodeo.
Oh eventually they will do that. I do recall and the remaining/new AAC/former Big East schools collected money from Pitt/SU/WVU for YEARS after those schools left (maybe RU too? ).

OU/UT payout is quite a bit more substantial with the buyout and GOR involved--which is why they are trying to weasle out now.

The existing BIG 12 schools should also collect the OU/UT payouts and then go their separate ways. They didn't cause this--the networks and OU/UT did.
 

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Pretty clear they are working in conjunction with networks to eliminate the BIG 12 and move its value elsewhere.

The remaining core needs to hold out on making moves until UT/ OU and their network partner have paid the remainder for these moves.

Hahahahahaha....

What's it like waking up every day and seeing the world from the view of a toddler?
 

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Oh eventually they will do that. I do recall and the remaining/new AAC/former Big East schools collected money from Pitt/SU/WVU for YEARS after those schools left (maybe RU too? ).

OU/UT payout is quite a bit more substantial with the buyout and GOR involved--which is why they are trying to weasle out now.

The existing BIG 12 schools should also collect the OU/UT payouts and then go their separate ways. They didn't cause this--the networks and OU/UT did.

Yeah...they really showed them.

Sucked off welfare for a few years when they had nowhere to go anyway.

Everyone with options bolted.

Thats money you don't want..you only take it when it's your only option. Its the chubby girl floating around the bar at last call.
 

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Yeah...they really showed them.

Sucked off welfare for a few years when they had nowhere to go anyway.

Everyone with options bolted.

Thats money you don't want..you only take it when it's your only option. Its the chubby girl floating around the bar at last call.
But--they collected pay from the schools that departed for years. And that's exactly what should happen with the core schools remaining with the BIG 12--of course the money is quite a bit more substantial in this case.

Really doubt OU/UT intend to hang around as lame ducks for four years and that's fine. Pay up and move on, I'm sure the core foundation of the BIG 12's value will be acceptable.
 

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Oh eventually they will do that. I do recall and the remaining/new AAC/former Big East schools collected money from Pitt/SU/WVU for YEARS after those schools left (maybe RU too? ).

OU/UT payout is quite a bit more substantial with the buyout and GOR involved--which is why they are trying to weasle out now.

The existing BIG 12 schools should also collect the OU/UT payouts and then go their separate ways. They didn't cause this--the networks and OU/UT did.
Pitt, SU and RU paid nothing. They stayed and played final Big East season nor did UL pay anything to leave AAC. WVU could not afford to wait. Then Big East sued WVU and GOT 25 MILLION then the conference broke up.
 

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Pitt, SU and RU paid nothing. They stayed and played final Big East season nor did UL pay anything to leave AAC.

Yeah we sued and left early.

Everyone (message board people) said we would pay 10's of millions....i think we settled for $7 million? Maybe $14?
 

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Yeah we sued and left early.

Everyone (message board people) said we would pay 10's of millions....i think we settled for $7 million? Maybe $14?
We sued and still had to pay 25 million. So we basically paid for the other 3 exit fees.
 

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It was $20 million settlement but WVU only paid around half and B12 covered the remaining balance.

I think the extra $5 was the normal exit fee, so $25 total with B12 covering around $10.

So about $15 outta pocket.

I remember reading Pitt boards saying we would pay $30 - $50...and basically be forever broke, meagerly living off out partial B12 payments.
 

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Oh eventually they will do that. I do recall and the remaining/new AAC/former Big East schools collected money from Pitt/SU/WVU for YEARS after those schools left (maybe RU too? ).

OU/UT payout is quite a bit more substantial with the buyout and GOR involved--which is why they are trying to weasle out now.

The existing BIG 12 schools should also collect the OU/UT payouts and then go their separate ways. They didn't cause this--the networks and OU/UT did.


Your memory is a bit off on what Pitt paid. So do think WVU is not proactively trying to find a new home as you post? Remember the AD all but came out and said as much. The second an invitation from the ACC would be extended WVU would be announcing they’re going to ACC. I hoping Texas and Oklahoma announce they’re accepting SEC invite as soon as possible so ACC can Add WVU and announce a partnership of some kind with BigTen and N.D.
 

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Your memory is a bit off on what Pitt paid. So do think WVU is not proactively trying to find a new home as you post? Remember the AD all but came out and said as much. The second an invitation from the ACC would be extended WVU would be announcing they’re going to ACC. I hoping Texas and Oklahoma announce they’re accepting SEC invite as soon as possible so ACC can Add WVU and announce a partnership of some kind with BigTen and N.D.

Ideally, it would be best for for everyone if TX/OU were playing in the SEC for the 2022 season...
 

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Oh eventually they will do that. I do recall and the remaining/new AAC/former Big East schools collected money from Pitt/SU/WVU for YEARS after those schools left (maybe RU too? ).

OU/UT payout is quite a bit more substantial with the buyout and GOR involved--which is why they are trying to weasle out now.

The existing BIG 12 schools should also collect the OU/UT payouts and then go their separate ways. They didn't cause this--the networks and OU/UT did.
Might want to check your memory...

Pitt and Syracuse effectually switch conferences. In addition, both universities will have to pay a $5 million exit fee to leave the Big East.

They cried to papa BIG EAST that WVU got to sue and leave early.