Texas has found voter fraud

WVPATX

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Fraud: First Arrest Warrant Issued in Expanding Texas Illegal Voting Case, 700 Suspicious Ballots Scrutinized

Guy Benson

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Posted: Jun 05, 2017 1:45 PM
ironic voter ID controversy at the California Democratic convention -- as well as this case out of Florida, in which fraudulent ballots may have tipped the balance in an extremely close local election. Yesterday, Texas Governor Greg Abbott tweeted out a Dallas Morning News story detailing an arrest warrant issued pertaining to a voter fraud investigation that may have impacted hundreds of mail-in ballots. Authorities say more arrest warrants may be coming soon:

Greg Abbott‏Verified account@GregAbbott_TX
Arrest warrant issued in West Dallas voter fraud case. Vote stealers are going to face justice. #txlege #tcot




  • Authorities have issued their first arrest warrant in the Dallas County voter fraud case that roiled the May municipal elections in West Dallas and Grand Prairie, causing 700 suspicious mail-in ballots to be sequestered. Miguel Hernandez, 27, of Dallas, is wanted on a charge of illegal voting, a third-degree felony. He is accused of visiting a woman around April 10 and collecting her blank absentee ballot, then filling it out and forging her signature on it before mailing it to the county, according to an arrest warrant affidavit. Authorities say they plan to make more arrests in the case. Last month, Assistant District Attorney Andy Chatham and Elections Administrator Toni Pippins-Poole named two persons of interest in the investigation, neither of whom was Hernandez. Prosecutor Mike Snipes, a former judge and federal attorney, said Friday afternoon that he couldn't say too much about the case, as it's ongoing. But he did say his office had been contacted by a woman from West Dallas who "knew she'd been duped into sending out an improper ballot" and contacted the Dallas County District Attorney's Office. She was shown a lineup and identified Hernandez.

    Another person of interest related to the scheme appears to be an alleged whistleblower (a liberal "political activist" who may actually have been in on the illegal conduct) who released audio tapesof a since-removed Democratic precinct chair discussing faking his own address and stealing hundreds of mail-in ballots. The fraud conspiracy seems to have targeted senior citizens:

    During the weeks leading up to the elections, dozens of senior citizens in West Dallas and Grand Prairie filed complaints saying they had received mail-in ballots that they had not requested. Some of them had also been told their mail-in ballot applications said they had been assisted by a "Jose Rodriguez," a man they didn't know.At the district attorney's request, a judge ordered the sequestration of 700 ballots that were linked to "Jose Rodriguez," which authorities believed to be a fake name. According to the affidavit, a voter who had complained that her application listed "Jose Rodriguez" told investigators that she had placed a blank ballot in a white envelope and put that inside a "carrier envelope," before giving it to the man who said he would "ostensibly" give it to the elections department. When she handed her ballot over, she hadn't signed her voter signature or that anyone had assisted her, she told investigators. But authorities showed her the one that the elections office had received, which showed both lines signed.A number of news accounts about the imbroglio failed to mention the political party entangled in the mess -- additional digging turned up the answer: Democrats. The Texas Democratic Party released a bizarre statement in late May condemning the alleged crimes and supporting a "full and thorough" investigation, while emphasizing potshots at "discriminatory" anti-fraud measures backed by Republicans. It takes some gall to attack the opposition for telling "fairy tales" about illegal voting...while your party is embroiled in a scandal over illegal voting. Liberals who oppose voter ID laws (except when they realize they have cause for concern over the integrity of ballot counting) would argue that mandatory photo ID's would not have prevented the form of cheating in which Dallas-area Democratic officials and activists were allegedly involved.

    That's true, as this particular plan did not entail wrongful in-person voting. But the situation underscores the degree to which partisans can be motivated to break the rules to gain an electoral advantage, as other Democratic officials have admitted on tape in the recent past. Safeguards against all sorts of fraud should be enacted and taken seriously; requiring valid identification to confirm the identities of would-be voters is an obvious and overwhelmingly popular element of that process. I'll leave you with this helpful background report from the local CBS affiliate, which aired last month:
 

WVPATX

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POTUS is a moron but that's two cases thus far and likely both helped the DNC. Starting to see a trend here.

Dems act like voter fraud does not exist. But history shows the Dems have perfected this art form. JFK won both WV and TX by cheating. It is a long practice art at the DNC.
 

moe

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Fraud: First Arrest Warrant Issued in Expanding Texas Illegal Voting Case, 700 Suspicious Ballots Scrutinized

Guy Benson

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Posted: Jun 05, 2017 1:45 PM
ironic voter ID controversy at the California Democratic convention -- as well as this case out of Florida, in which fraudulent ballots may have tipped the balance in an extremely close local election. Yesterday, Texas Governor Greg Abbott tweeted out a Dallas Morning News story detailing an arrest warrant issued pertaining to a voter fraud investigation that may have impacted hundreds of mail-in ballots. Authorities say more arrest warrants may be coming soon:

Greg Abbott‏Verified account@GregAbbott_TX
Arrest warrant issued in West Dallas voter fraud case. Vote stealers are going to face justice. #txlege #tcot




  • Authorities have issued their first arrest warrant in the Dallas County voter fraud case that roiled the May municipal elections in West Dallas and Grand Prairie, causing 700 suspicious mail-in ballots to be sequestered. Miguel Hernandez, 27, of Dallas, is wanted on a charge of illegal voting, a third-degree felony. He is accused of visiting a woman around April 10 and collecting her blank absentee ballot, then filling it out and forging her signature on it before mailing it to the county, according to an arrest warrant affidavit. Authorities say they plan to make more arrests in the case. Last month, Assistant District Attorney Andy Chatham and Elections Administrator Toni Pippins-Poole named two persons of interest in the investigation, neither of whom was Hernandez. Prosecutor Mike Snipes, a former judge and federal attorney, said Friday afternoon that he couldn't say too much about the case, as it's ongoing. But he did say his office had been contacted by a woman from West Dallas who "knew she'd been duped into sending out an improper ballot" and contacted the Dallas County District Attorney's Office. She was shown a lineup and identified Hernandez.

    Another person of interest related to the scheme appears to be an alleged whistleblower (a liberal "political activist" who may actually have been in on the illegal conduct) who released audio tapesof a since-removed Democratic precinct chair discussing faking his own address and stealing hundreds of mail-in ballots. The fraud conspiracy seems to have targeted senior citizens:

    During the weeks leading up to the elections, dozens of senior citizens in West Dallas and Grand Prairie filed complaints saying they had received mail-in ballots that they had not requested. Some of them had also been told their mail-in ballot applications said they had been assisted by a "Jose Rodriguez," a man they didn't know.At the district attorney's request, a judge ordered the sequestration of 700 ballots that were linked to "Jose Rodriguez," which authorities believed to be a fake name. According to the affidavit, a voter who had complained that her application listed "Jose Rodriguez" told investigators that she had placed a blank ballot in a white envelope and put that inside a "carrier envelope," before giving it to the man who said he would "ostensibly" give it to the elections department. When she handed her ballot over, she hadn't signed her voter signature or that anyone had assisted her, she told investigators. But authorities showed her the one that the elections office had received, which showed both lines signed.A number of news accounts about the imbroglio failed to mention the political party entangled in the mess -- additional digging turned up the answer: Democrats. The Texas Democratic Party released a bizarre statement in late May condemning the alleged crimes and supporting a "full and thorough" investigation, while emphasizing potshots at "discriminatory" anti-fraud measures backed by Republicans. It takes some gall to attack the opposition for telling "fairy tales" about illegal voting...while your party is embroiled in a scandal over illegal voting. Liberals who oppose voter ID laws (except when they realize they have cause for concern over the integrity of ballot counting) would argue that mandatory photo ID's would not have prevented the form of cheating in which Dallas-area Democratic officials and activists were allegedly involved.

    That's true, as this particular plan did not entail wrongful in-person voting. But the situation underscores the degree to which partisans can be motivated to break the rules to gain an electoral advantage, as other Democratic officials have admitted on tape in the recent past. Safeguards against all sorts of fraud should be enacted and taken seriously; requiring valid identification to confirm the identities of would-be voters is an obvious and overwhelmingly popular element of that process. I'll leave you with this helpful background report from the local CBS affiliate, which aired last month:
One down, 3,999,999 more or so to go, good work!
 

WVPATX

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One down, 3,999,999 more or so to go, good work!

Even one case of voter fraud is too many. It destroys the vote of a citizen and we know just how close some of these races are.

Voter ID laws will help to protect our citizens. Libs have said we have no voter fraud. I guess they are wrong. Right?
 

moe

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Even one case of voter fraud is too many. It destroys the vote of a citizen and we know just how close some of these races are.

Voter ID laws will help to protect our citizens. Libs have said we have no voter fraud. I guess they are wrong. Right?
Congrats on finding one case, seriously.
 

moe

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700 ballots.
but where are the millions? of course there's a Lincoln County, WV every now and then but nothing compared to the voter fraud lies that Trump tells. Some day his lies will come back to bite him.
 

WVPATX

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but where are the millions? of course there's a Lincoln County, WV every now and then but nothing compared to the voter fraud lies that Trump tells. Some day his lies will come back to bite him.

Libs like you have said we have NO VOTER FRAUD. WRONG once again.
 

bamaEER

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Pffft ...700....I've got that beat....
 

WVPATX

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Pffft ...700....I've got that beat....

Libs said ZERO voter fraud. ZERO. Now we have had two cases just in the past two weeks demonstrating significant voter fraud. Significant enough that Al Gore would have been President. Voter fraud matters. Voter ID laws needed desperately to protect American citizens and their franchise.
 

bamaEER

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Libs said ZERO voter fraud. ZERO. Now we have had two cases just in the past two weeks demonstrating significant voter fraud. Significant enough that Al Gore would have been President. Voter fraud matters. Voter ID laws needed desperately to protect American citizens and their franchise.
Nobody said no voter fraud. It's bound to happen somewhere. Biff just tried to use it to explain why she got more votes than he did and that was just f-in stupid.
 

Boomboom521

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Wasted effort....even if it was 70,000 fraudulent ballots....Dems aren't winning Texas. Unless they find a way to resurrect LBJ
 

Boomboom521

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Libs said ZERO voter fraud. ZERO. Now we have had two cases just in the past two weeks demonstrating significant voter fraud. Significant enough that Al Gore would have been President. Voter fraud matters. Voter ID laws needed desperately to protect American citizens and their franchise.
I think most people speaking practically, aka not spinning conspiracy theories, discussed the 30 some cases of fraud found over the last x amount of years, and asserted there isn't voter fraud TO THE LEVEL that would warrant a ego laced tweet from Trump asserting he won the popular vote.
 

WVPATX

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Nobody said no voter fraud. It's bound to happen somewhere. Biff just tried to use it to explain why she got more votes than he did and that was just f-in stupid.

I have watched Dem after Dem on TV saying no voter fraud.
 

bamaEER

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I have watched Dem after Dem on TV saying no voter fraud.
Then they are stupid. There is bound to be a little voter fraud. Point is it's not as large as Biff wants it to be to fit his narrative.
 

WVPATX

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Then they are stupid. There is bound to be a little voter fraud. Point is it's not as large as Biff wants it to be to fit his narrative.

It may not be the number Trump stated. But it is real and needs to be stopped. You can't disenfranchise an American citizen by canceling out his vote illegally. We have too many races that are so close that a small number of illegal votes can swing that election.
 

bamaEER

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Dems have claimed no fraud occurs for years. It was their narrative and lie to begin with.
There's always a small % of population who cheat--shoplifting, fraud, hacking and yes, voting. It's small, but it's definitely there.
 

WVPATX

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There's always a small % of population who cheat--shoplifting, fraud, hacking and yes, voting. It's small, but it's definitely there.

How do you know it's small? We have never investigated this on a national level? Right? You are guessing. Remember, JFK became President because of fraud in WV and TX. It is real.
 

bamaEER

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How do you know it's small? We have never investigated this on a national level? Right? You are guessing. Remember, JFK became President because of fraud in WV and TX. It is real.
Because everyone who claims it's big (ie Gregg Phillips) always turns out to be lying about it.
 

Boomboom521

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How do you know it's small? We have never investigated this on a national level? Right? You are guessing. Remember, JFK became President because of fraud in WV and TX. It is real.
Sounds like Trump isn't a legitimate President then, until the investigation is complete....well the other investigation anyway.
 

WVPATX

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Sounds like Trump isn't a legitimate President then, until the investigation is complete....well the other investigation anyway.

No one is saying the Russians changed any votes. Please show me where that claim has been made by anyone in law enforcement or even in national politics.
 

Boomboom521

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No one is saying the Russians changed any votes. Please show me where that claim has been made by anyone in law enforcement or even in national politics.
Well...you said there is voter fraud, and no one knows to what scale, even as many as 3 million+. So....why should I assume that Trump was legitimately elected? I wasn't saying anything about the Russians....that's the OTHER investigation
 

WVPATX

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Well...you said there is voter fraud, and no one knows to what scale, even as many as 3 million+. So....why should I assume that Trump was legitimately elected? I wasn't saying anything about the Russians....that's the OTHER investigation

To carry your example one step further, how do I know Obama was our president? The reality is however Dems cheat during elections, the GOP generally does not.
 

Boomboom521

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To carry your example one step further, how do I know Obama was our president? The reality is however Dems cheat during elections, the GOP generally does not.
Well....according to you, I guess we don't know.....don't know what your point is, cause Obama is retired now
 

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I think most people speaking practically, aka not spinning conspiracy theories, discussed the 30 some cases of fraud found over the last x amount of years, and asserted there isn't voter fraud TO THE LEVEL that would warrant a ego laced tweet from Trump asserting he won the popular vote.
Ego laced tweeting aside. I want voter ID requirements and frankly I don't give a **** who is disenfranchised. If they are too lazy or stupid to get an ID, then they don't need to be voting anyway.
 

Boomboom521

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Ego laced tweeting aside. I want voter ID requirements and frankly I don't give a **** who is disenfranchised. If they are too lazy or stupid to get an ID, then they don't need to be voting anyway.
But Dems rely on the stupid and the lazy vote
 

WVPATX

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I think most people speaking practically, aka not spinning conspiracy theories, discussed the 30 some cases of fraud found over the last x amount of years, and asserted there isn't voter fraud TO THE LEVEL that would warrant a ego laced tweet from Trump asserting he won the popular vote.

They were saying this before Trump.
 

atlkvb

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We have plenty on the right as well

I favor poll tests. You must pass a basic civics and current events test as well as show proof you actually paid taxes the previous year (so you have some skin in the game) show a valid I.D. THEN you get to vote!