The Big Ten wants a 24-28 team playoff

KingLando

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Psu has a policy that once you enter the portal that you may not participate anymore. I think it is for legal and medical lawsuit protection. Unfortunately, NCAA rules forced Beau into the portal prior to the playoffs. This was a PSU rule not a JF rule.
Nothing forced Beau--he made a choice
 
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KingLando

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If the playoff starts the first week of December without a bye week even with a 24 team playoff they're done early January

This year
Round of 24 December 6th
Round of 16 December 13th
Quarterfinals December 20th
Semifinals December 27th
Title Game...probably Monday January 5th
Works perfect.
The issue is the breaks and the neutral sites.
 

Smee

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Psu has a policy that once you enter the portal that you may not participate anymore. I think it is for legal and medical lawsuit protection. Unfortunately, NCAA rules forced Beau into the portal prior to the playoffs. This was a PSU rule not a JF rule.
As the parent of a three-time portal user I know the rules -- it is Franklin's (really disgustingly bad) rule. Not PSU's (Whoever told you it was legal and medical lawsuit protection was filling you with BS). Not the NCAA's. Not Beau's. Beau could have entered the portal and stayed on the team as far as everyone else was concerned. Franklin said no. I'll prop Franklin when he deserves it, but his portal rules are absolutely medieval.
 

KingLando

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This is tragically false information. As in, you are so absolutely wrong it's shocking you typed that and attached it to your username.
It's 100% true. He didn't have to enter the portal when he did. He had countless choices. Franklin knows that yet tried to use Beau to get the change he wants. It's insane you believe he didn't have options.
Are you confused as to how guys stayed with us through the playoff then portaled? That alone proves you wrong.
 
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johnmpsu

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No thanks. How about a real "playoff". Only conference winners or get rid of the conference championship game and allow conference division winners in. Anything else is just an entertaining tournament not a playoff. Never happen because there is too much money to be made with "wildcards" or as I prefer to call them, lucky losers.
 

Calabrin

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It's 100% true. He didn't have to enter the portal when he did. He had countless choices. Franklin knows that yet tried to use Beau to get the change he wants. It's insane you believe he didn't have options.
Are you confused as to how guys stayed with us through the playoff then portaled? That alone proves you wrong.
You do not know what you are talking about.

Here is my guess: you Googled it and read the AI response, which is wrong. The portal window closed on Dec. 28. Penn State played Notre Dame on January 9.

 

KingLando

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You do not know what you are talking about.

Here is my guess: you Googled it and read the AI response, which is wrong. The portal window closed on Dec. 28. Penn State played Notre Dame on January 9.

Lol...this is wrong
He had 5 days after the postseason to enter the portsl...how do you not know this?
Of course you thought he went to Ole Miss
 

psuro

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I don't think it's about 24/28 teams. It's about16 teans

The BIG floats 24/28 teams and when "people" balk they back down to 16 as a concession. Which is what they really wanted.
 
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Ludd

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Here’s the solution….the whole season is a single elimination tournament. Lose one, you’re out. That will cut down on the players’s chances of injury. It will eliminate that pesky regular season that apparently no one likes. And everyone is included in the playoffs. Sure, some teams will only have a one or two game season, but hey, they just need to get better.
 

KingLando

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Here’s the solution….the whole season is a single elimination tournament. Lose one, you’re out. That will cut down on the players’s chances of injury. It will eliminate that pesky regular season that apparently no one likes. And everyone is included in the playoffs. Sure, some teams will only have a one or two game season, but hey, they just need to get better.
I get what you're saying but the entire purpose of a playoff is one loss shouldn't eliminate you
 

Corner Room Breakfast

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No thanks. How about a real "playoff". Only conference winners or get rid of the conference championship game and allow conference division winners in. Anything else is just an entertaining tournament not a playoff. Never happen because there is too much money to be made with "wildcards" or as I prefer to call them, lucky losers.
That's like saying March Madness should have 8 or 16 teams. Twenty teams
with 4 byes, if you don't make the top 20, your team is struggling or unlucky.

Power 5 conferences only , everyone in a conference, should be in a conference,
ND included.

After 70 or 80 teams CFB is akin to the first round in March Madness. I love CFB
but watching bowl games in mid December playing in Louisiana and Alabama is
painful.
 

94LionsFan

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Here’s the solution….the whole season is a single elimination tournament. Lose one, you’re out. That will cut down on the players’s chances of injury. It will eliminate that pesky regular season that apparently no one likes. And everyone is included in the playoffs. Sure, some teams will only have a one or two game season, but hey, they just need to get better.
Win them all and you’ll be nat’l champs!

On second thought, we tried it your way and had multiple undefeated, uncrowned teams. You’d prefer that?
 

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Here’s the solution….the whole season is a single elimination tournament. Lose one, you’re out. That will cut down on the players’s chances of injury. It will eliminate that pesky regular season that apparently no one likes. And everyone is included in the playoffs. Sure, some teams will only have a one or two game season, but hey, they just need to get better.

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Ludd

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I get what you're saying but the entire purpose of a playoff is one loss shouldn't eliminate you
And the other purpose of the playoffs is that you should have to do something to make it, like win your conference.
 
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Ludd

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Win them all and you’ll be nat’l champs!

On second thought, we tried it your way and had multiple undefeated, uncrowned teams. You’d prefer that?
We never tried it my way…I said the whole season is a single elimination tournament so if you lose one, you’re done….in the end, only one team will be left.
 
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Ludd

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I’m agreeing with you - it’s essentially CFB before the expanded playoff. Makes the regular season the best in sports.

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But that’s not what I was proposing…I was saying a single elimination tournament for the whole season, so if you lost your first game, your season is over. It was tongue in cheek, partially, because for some reason so many posters don’t want to play a regular season.
 
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Midnighter

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But that’s not what I was proposing…I was saying a single elimination tournament for the whole season, so if you lost your first game, your season is over. It was tongue in cheek, partially, because for some reason so many posters don’t want to play a regular season.

Yeah, but that’s essentially how everything worked for the most part prior - hard to overcome even one loss (but doable). Anyways….
 

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12 is plenty and would rather just 8. Last year showed there were only 4 teams that actually had a chance. There is no way there are 24 teams good enough to win it. Combine the big ten and sec into 8 divisions of 6 teams adding the necessary good teams from other conferences. Play all the teams in your division plus crossover division that rotates each year. 8 division winners make playoffs. No rankings or selections needed.
 

Midnighter

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12 is plenty and would rather just 8. Last year showed there were only 4 teams that actually had a chance. There is no way there are 24 teams good enough to win it. Combine the big ten and sec into 8 divisions of 6 teams adding the necessary good teams from other conferences. Play all the teams in your division plus crossover division that rotates each year. 8 division winners make playoffs. No rankings or selections needed.

 

KingLando

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All of them.
Not a single sport in America has that required
All 4 major pro sports plus MLS and the WNBA (and likely anything else you can come up with) don't require a division win to participate in the playoffs
See the Frozen Four or March Madness or any college sport. None require it.
Not sure why you think this
 

KingLando

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In no professional US sports are post-season playoff participants selected by a committee. Qualification criteria are in place before the regular season begins.
Is FBS a pro-sport? Aren't almost all college sports the same?
Do you like the idea of 7 auto-bids because it's a preset requirement?
 

SleepyLion

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12 is plenty and would rather just 8. Last year showed there were only 4 teams that actually had a chance. There is no way there are 24 teams good enough to win it. Combine the big ten and sec into 8 divisions of 6 teams adding the necessary good teams from other conferences. Play all the teams in your division plus crossover division that rotates each year. 8 division winners make playoffs. No rankings or selections needed.
I like this with a promotion/relegation system so teams can work up to the top level. It is the one thing I like about European football.
 

KingLando

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You wrote "American sports." You did not limit it to college sports.
Correct and even in pro sports a division title isn't required to make the playoff.
You're good with 7 auto bids for the Big Ten then, correct? There's a known criteria.
And you're response of "all of them" is.still incorrect. Not a single sport in the US requires teams to win something to make the playoffs. Not one.
 

Calabrin

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Lol...this is wrong
He had 5 days after the postseason to enter the portsl...how do you not know this?
Of course you thought he went to Ole Miss
Yeah, there you go-- after you've been proven wrong, just start making stuff up.
 
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RolexKong

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Correct and even in pro sports a division title isn't required to make the playoff.
You're good with 7 auto bids for the Big Ten then, correct? There's a known criteria.
And you're response of "all of them" is.still incorrect. Not a single sport in the US requires teams to win something to make the playoffs. Not one.
I did not write "all of them." I also did not write that winning a conference title should be a/the only requirement for entry into the playoff, though it's better than the current format and certainly preferable to expansion.
 
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KingLando

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Yeah, there you go-- after you've been proven wrong, just start making stuff up.
You're saying players don't have until 5 days after their season ends to portal? And I'm the one making things up.
Explain how Penn State players transferred after we lost to ND...
 

olelion

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12 is plenty and would rather just 8. Last year showed there were only 4 teams that actually had a chance. There is no way there are 24 teams good enough to win it. Combine the big ten and sec into 8 divisions of 6 teams adding the necessary good teams from other conferences. Play all the teams in your division plus crossover division that rotates each year. 8 division winners make playoffs. No rankings or selections needed.
Seldom are there five teams capable of winning it