The Bob Carskadon writes about the tailgating policies...
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While I always enjoy Bob's work
This seems like a case where his affiliation with the university prevents him from telling the whole story. The details of the new fees, and how much they will cost comapies and their customers seems like pretty important information. Would love to have seen that point of view reresented in the article.
This seems like a case where his affiliation with the university prevents him from telling the whole story. The details of the new fees, and how much they will cost comapies and their customers seems like pretty important information. Would love to have seen that point of view reresented in the article.
I know it's frustrating but y'all's tailgating and parking policies are much better than what we have now. At least it seems to me that State is trying to make things better for everyone and OM is trying to make it better for a few.
Agreed. I also haven't seen a good explanation (in this article or anywhere) of why the proposed rules/fees only apply to companies who set up 10 or more tents, or why people seem to think it would only be companies who move individuals' tents.
This struck me as more a piece of advertising for how great the new policies would be. For example, the following paragraph really cries out for examples of what other schools do: "Most SEC schools either allow commercial tailgating or are strictly first-come first-served. Few, if any, are both, but the compromise is one MSU feels does the most good for the most people."
This struck me as more a piece of advertising for how great the new policies would be. For example, the following paragraph really cries out for examples of what other schools do: "Most SEC schools either allow commercial tailgating or are strictly first-come first-served. Few, if any, are both, but the compromise is one MSU feels does the most good for the most people."
While it maybe advertising, it is true. If the school picked one side or the other, a group would be left out totally. Either way, being on the school's payroll means he sure can't/won't blast a policy.
the article is right, though.
those college students running some of these commercial tent companies think they can walk all over everybody that gets their *** out there to stake a spot at 6 in the morning. i was one of them.
last year, i had my tents set out to stake my spot (on the south side of sidewalk near the bookstore). this guy had the nerve to come up to me and tell me i've gotta move, that's where he sets up his pay tents. i told him ain't gonna happen. he didn't have the balls to continue arguing with me as he knew i had my right to get there before he did.
to me... what the University did is a product of the commercial tent companies own doing. they did this **** to themselves. albeit, not all of them have douchebags who think they own a 10'x10' square of grass in the junction, but there are a few that screwed the pooch for all of them.
those college students running some of these commercial tent companies think they can walk all over everybody that gets their *** out there to stake a spot at 6 in the morning. i was one of them.
last year, i had my tents set out to stake my spot (on the south side of sidewalk near the bookstore). this guy had the nerve to come up to me and tell me i've gotta move, that's where he sets up his pay tents. i told him ain't gonna happen. he didn't have the balls to continue arguing with me as he knew i had my right to get there before he did.
to me... what the University did is a product of the commercial tent companies own doing. they did this **** to themselves. albeit, not all of them have douchebags who think they own a 10'x10' square of grass in the junction, but there are a few that screwed the pooch for all of them.
gotta agree here... same thing happened to me in the same general spot. And it was a group that has claimed complete innocence on this board. I had a discussion about how they moved my tent from its prior location with one of the hired student lieutenants. It was obvious that his job hinged on having that spot instead of our traditional area. Got testy. No regard for anyone else's presence or common rights. Let's not do that again, Mr. gray/black tents. I will not be so restrained next time.
I will admit I don't know a lot about this but.....
From what I understand it seems to me that charging a fee for the commercial tent companies will just reenforce the sense of entitlement for any who chose to pay it. I suppose though that the fee was intended to make it pretty much impossible to run such a business on a large scale. To me it seems that if the rub has been the commercial guys moving peoples tents that you could nip that in the bud by kicking their butts out if they are caught moving someone who was there first. It would be fairly easy to prove if by a simple video or photos of your tent after you set it up.
From what I understand it seems to me that charging a fee for the commercial tent companies will just reenforce the sense of entitlement for any who chose to pay it. I suppose though that the fee was intended to make it pretty much impossible to run such a business on a large scale. To me it seems that if the rub has been the commercial guys moving peoples tents that you could nip that in the bud by kicking their butts out if they are caught moving someone who was there first. It would be fairly easy to prove if by a simple video or photos of your tent after you set it up.
I understand what you're saying, but it's not limited to the tent companies doing that. Before we started using Southern Tailgate, we set up ourselves in the Junction. We had one man tell us we needed to move because that's where he had been setting his tent up the past couple of weeks.
If it's going to be a truly first come, first serve policy, everyone on campus needs to get a better understanding of what that actually means and respect it whether its a student, tent company or even an opposing fan who beats you to the spot.
If it's going to be a truly first come, first serve policy, everyone on campus needs to get a better understanding of what that actually means and respect it whether its a student, tent company or even an opposing fan who beats you to the spot.
Unfortunately, I would guess it will continue to go unexplained. It should be any company or no companies.
A company that sets up 8 or 9 tents each week qualifies for all the same issues as a company that sets up 25 tents- entitlement issues over location, making money on university ground, etc etc etc.
well, this is exactly why they are restricting those companies to certain areas on campus. i do see a problem with the billy joe having his company that sets up no more than 9 tents to get around the rules. i believe they are restricted to the amphitheater and by the ag-bio building up the hill from dorman.