The clock could have/should have stopped when the player was down,
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Clock stops on a FD in college when the line judge sets the forward progress and waves his arms to the operator to suspend play. This happens at :01.
Relatedly, a stoppage on a FD play typically only lasts 8-10 seconds...would have been very difficult indeed to have run an offense off (particularly when WR's were instinctively running away from the LSU sideline immediately to assume an offensive formation for the next play) and a ST on before the start.
No guarantee even if they had that they wouldn't have committed a game ending penalty in the hubub for too many men, procedure, etc. And then no guarantee that it wouldn't have been blocked (see Bama v Tenn, OM v Florida, etc) or missed.
Of course, if you're LSU you might just feel lucky enough to have had the chance- after 2 OM TD's erased due to penalties and a poor call, a blocked FG returned for an LSU TD, a botched scoop and score by Cornell that would have iced the game, completing a Hail Mary on 4th and 26 just to have this 'debate'...........
Relatedly, a stoppage on a FD play typically only lasts 8-10 seconds...would have been very difficult indeed to have run an offense off (particularly when WR's were instinctively running away from the LSU sideline immediately to assume an offensive formation for the next play) and a ST on before the start.
No guarantee even if they had that they wouldn't have committed a game ending penalty in the hubub for too many men, procedure, etc. And then no guarantee that it wouldn't have been blocked (see Bama v Tenn, OM v Florida, etc) or missed.
Of course, if you're LSU you might just feel lucky enough to have had the chance- after 2 OM TD's erased due to penalties and a poor call, a blocked FG returned for an LSU TD, a botched scoop and score by Cornell that would have iced the game, completing a Hail Mary on 4th and 26 just to have this 'debate'...........
Yes, the clock operator doesn't physically stop the clock until signaled by the refs. That bleeds off seconds constantly during the game and no one cares. But the rule is that the clock stops when the player is down. We see crews go to the replay and put time back on the clock as standard practice in these cases. Now, I don't think it matters. LSU lost this game because of bad clock management and not having the field goal unit ready to go. And as you said, Ole Miss just beat them.AceD3 said:
"We see crews go to the replay and put time back on the clock as standard practice in these cases."
No, you do not. The clock is not stopped on a FD that isn't a dead ball play until forward progress is marked, ever. In truth, it cannot be. What you are talking about is a dead ball play where a receiver goes out of bounds, an incompletion, a change of possession, etc. That is a completely different situation from the officiating perspective, a true stopped clock. A FD where the ball stays in bounds only creates a temporary stoppage in the college game for the administrative benefit of marking the chains for the referees...
I challenge you, the next time you watch a college football game, to observe this yourself. You should get 40-50 opportunities from both sides to observe- on close calls w/ associated measurements or clear first downs when the stoppage occurs and when it is restarted.
No, you do not. The clock is not stopped on a FD that isn't a dead ball play until forward progress is marked, ever. In truth, it cannot be. What you are talking about is a dead ball play where a receiver goes out of bounds, an incompletion, a change of possession, etc. That is a completely different situation from the officiating perspective, a true stopped clock. A FD where the ball stays in bounds only creates a temporary stoppage in the college game for the administrative benefit of marking the chains for the referees...
I challenge you, the next time you watch a college football game, to observe this yourself. You should get 40-50 opportunities from both sides to observe- on close calls w/ associated measurements or clear first downs when the stoppage occurs and when it is restarted.
almost 30 seconds to wind the clock after the completion. On Summers 45 yard reception earlier in the game, it took 16 seconds to start the clock again. The ref stood on the ball for about 8 seconds allowing LSU time to line up before winding the clock. Another pathetic move by SEC refs. And as much as you guys on sixpack hate to see Ole Miss win, you should be railing against the SEC refs as well for again trying to protect the "higher profile" SEC team.
now if Miles wasn't an idiot and had a timeout left he could have. Or if he simply had called smarter plays, or called the timeout earlier.
Ole Miss got hosed by the refs for most of the game, they took two TDs away. Hodge was clearly forced out of bounds, and the block in the back was touchy at best, and the diving in the end zone was complete ********. I won't shed a tear for LSU.
Ole Miss got hosed by the refs for most of the game, they took two TDs away. Hodge was clearly forced out of bounds, and the block in the back was touchy at best, and the diving in the end zone was complete ********. I won't shed a tear for LSU.
he would have run out to the official and tried to challenge that they needed to put a second or two back on the clock. Worst case, the ref tells him that he can't challenge the play and explains it to the crowd, but that would buy quite a bit of time to get the field goal unit out on the field. Considering that the moron didn't even have his FG team ready to go out there, this was probably asking for way too much out of him. Watching him stumble over his words after the game was hilarious.
then start with the BS celebration for diving into the end zone. The block in the back was iffy, but I'll give them that one because I would be screaming foul if it were the other way around. However, when you have pursuit from the side you do what it takes to break the plane. The dive was not a showboating move and the celebration penalty was bogus.
Doesn't matter. Ole Miss won. Deal with it.</p>
Doesn't matter. Ole Miss won. Deal with it.</p>
Never seen time added on for something like that like in basketball. Always seen it be when the ref signals. Regarding the playcalling: 1) They should have never dropped back for another pass once they got around the 30. They got what they deserved after that. 2) Obviously they had no plan for a 2nd play coming out of that timeout. 3) With 1 second Jefferson should have just done whatever it took to snap the ball and run some kind of play (other than a spike) no matter how disorganized it would have been. With 1 second left he should have just said F the coaches, this is on our shoulders now. And letting what 19? seconds run off the clock before calling a timeout.... wow.
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Zorak67
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This IS a MSU board, right? I don't see purple and gold anywhere.
Ole Miss WON...LSU LOST...Miles is an IDIOT. And anyone bitching about clock startage/stoppage falls in the same category as Les.
Ole Miss WON...LSU LOST...Miles is an IDIOT. And anyone bitching about clock startage/stoppage falls in the same category as Les.
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And I REALLY don't need your dumb-arse to inform me of the allowed topics of discussion.
Bitching about the refs not stopping the clock soon enough to give LSU the opportunity to beat Ole Miss which would, in turn, distract away from the pathetic excuse that IS MSU Mullet-ball, is STUPID.
Bitching about the refs not stopping the clock soon enough to give LSU the opportunity to beat Ole Miss which would, in turn, distract away from the pathetic excuse that IS MSU Mullet-ball, is STUPID.
You are way too fired up about this. I can't believe you care so much about the topic of conversation on an MSU message board. Wait, yes I can.