The Croom - Ray comparisons need to stop

[QuaoarsKing]

Did Rick Ray stay for a few months at his old job instead of coming on to Starkville and thus get behind in recruiting?
Did Rick Ray decide to implement his own preferred system, regardless of how ill suited the team is for it? Even worse, was he completely incompetent at doing so?
Did Rick Ray lose a game on the level of Maine?
Did Rick Ray spend years of incompetent game management, player development, and playcalling, except for one year when a competent assistant and a lot of luck bailed him out?

The answer to the above questions is all a resounding "no" (although it's technically possible some of them could become "yes," but Ray hasn't given any reason to suspect that). There is one glaring similarity that Croom and Ray have that I suspect is behind the comparisons, and that's just shameful.

 

[DerHntr]

How about stick only to where Rick and Croom could be similar up to this point in Rick's short tenure. No one has said anything like the things you listed because it isn't possible yet.

As for your racist suspicion, I haven't gathered that from a single post yet. Maybe I missed them. Maybe you are making that comparison on your own.

 

[esplanade91]

To imply people are comparing the two based on race is absurd. People are comparing the two because they're both significantly underwhelming hires and neither were the most qualified applicant.

Is it fair? No. It's warranted, and at no fault of Ray's.

 

[slickdawg]

Did Rick Ray stay for a few months at his old job instead of coming on to Starkville and thus get behind in recruiting?

Clemson wasn't playing ball when we hired him. Had they been in the NCAAT, I'd expect him to stay until they were out or won it.

Did Rick Ray decide to implement his own preferred system, regardless of how ill suited the team is for it? Even worse, was he completely incompetent at doing so?

That has yet to be seen.

Did Rick Ray lose a game on the level of Maine?

That has yet to be seen.

Did Rick Ray spend years of incompetent game management, player development, and playcalling, except for one year when a competent assistant and a lot of luck bailed him out?

That has yet to be seen.

The answer to the above questions is all a resounding "no" (although it's technically possible some of them could become "yes," but Ray hasn't given any reason to suspect that). There is one glaring similarity that Croom and Ray have that I suspect is behind the comparisons, and that's just shameful.

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I wanted change, I got it. I'm behind Ray, I'm glad he's cleaning up our hideous and shameful basketball program. A first round draft pick, a former McDonald's AA, an all-SEC PG, the reigning Gatorade POY, and we were lucky to make the NIT. Add in we lost at home in the first round. It's egregious.


Now, for the comparisons, Croom had to come in and clean up some issues, just as Ray has done. Croom didn't kiss players asses, Ray isn't either. Croom was an unproven assistant hired into an SEC head coaching position, just as Ray is. Having run off what, six scholarship players now, he's going to have as bad or worse talent than Croom did. We can look back at this in April.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Aren`t you missing some exciting parts of the democratic convention ?

 

[slickdawg]

Aren`t you missing some exciting parts of the democratic convention ?

Speaking of hiring someone with no executive experience whatsoever...........

 

[Todd4State]

I remember people trying to compare Cohen to Croom. I don't know what will happen this year, but odds are we will be bad and simply playing for the future. I'll give Ray a fair chance and if he sucks after a period of time, we'll simply fire him and find a new coach.

 

[DerHntr]

C'mon you two know better. Or maybe this was a sneaky way to get a silly post locked. If so, atta boy.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Cohen`s black ?

 

[esplanade91]

Cohen`s black ?

He's Jewish.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

Discipline problems hurt far more with basketball than football. You can dismiss 10 troublesome players on a football team and still not be that bad off. Dismissing 3 on a basketball team can destroy it.

 

[GloryDawg]

Coach Ray is Black?

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