Who is to blame? Tom, Frank, Billy C, B.O., Mike, Steve P, Harvey, or the fans? Yes, I said the fans. I hate to ask but how many fans wanted change and change of any kind when Frank was here. We need to blame ourselves at least for the start of our problems. Then a number of others f****d it up from there. Now we need to find a way to fix the problems we started and the only way is for change. When is Harvey's last day and have they hired his replacement because it matters.
The death of Nebraska Football
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If we knew that Pederson was going to be the only one making the choice the majority including myself would have rather kept Frank.
IF Tom had done his job and canned Bo when he refused to fire Carl, we likely would be in a bunch better place. Bo's problems and laziness hurt recruiting horribly and Tom's stubbornness prolonged the inevitable. IF Tom had made the tough choice back 3 or 4 years ago, he would have had a chance to make a hire he liked. Instead we've had several years of divisive crap digging our hole even deeper. This is going to take some time to dig out of. So yeah, I guess I put a bunch of blame on Tom for putting up with Bo's crap. What SP did years ago really has little to do with the mess we are in now. Tom could have hired Frank back if that was the answer. Instead he hired a jackass because he was a golf buddy of our biggest donor. I guarantee you one thing. IF Frank had been re-hired there wouldn't have been a Pelini on his staff.
If Tom was the problem it started the day he named his replacement. Not when he would not fire Bo.
Steve pulled the trigger but today's result pulled the plug. People put too much stock in that loss to Colorado.
All I can say is as a lifelong Nebraska and Duke football (family ties) fan, I've watched a lot of great football and a lot of truly horrific football. A lot.
This current Nebraska team has so much more in common with the Duke teams before Cutcliffe arrived than I'd like to admit. Dumb penalties, poor coaching, turnovers, finding new ways to lose, atrocious defense, the list goes on.
It is sad to see the school I graduated from and have been a lifelong fan of suck this much. At least with Duke football I expected them to suck so it was always surprising when they made a good play or won a game (still is to be honest). Nebraska was predicted by many to be playing in the Big 10 title game, not to be 3-6! At least with Cutcliffe even though the final results weren't great the first few years, you saw noticeable improvement. I can't say beyond Tommy that I've seen any improvement anywhere else and that scares me.
Tldr: I'm solidly terrified at this point at the thought of where this program is headed.
This current Nebraska team has so much more in common with the Duke teams before Cutcliffe arrived than I'd like to admit. Dumb penalties, poor coaching, turnovers, finding new ways to lose, atrocious defense, the list goes on.
It is sad to see the school I graduated from and have been a lifelong fan of suck this much. At least with Duke football I expected them to suck so it was always surprising when they made a good play or won a game (still is to be honest). Nebraska was predicted by many to be playing in the Big 10 title game, not to be 3-6! At least with Cutcliffe even though the final results weren't great the first few years, you saw noticeable improvement. I can't say beyond Tommy that I've seen any improvement anywhere else and that scares me.
Tldr: I'm solidly terrified at this point at the thought of where this program is headed.
I have to admit, if I could turn back time, and not fire Frankie, I think I would do that. Frank + Bo as DC could have been something, if they would have committed to recruiting.
I'd say life support 15 years ago, and agree with the 2nd part.
NEVER EVER SHOULDA LEFT THE BIG 12 !! That was the death of nebraska football !!
and it aint gonna get better by firing the coach. the loss of State of Texas recruiting has been a catastrophe for NU football and there is no light at the end of the tunnel.
No decent recruit gives two shiiiiets about watching NU play the Minnesota Moles or the PooPooPurdue Poopers. Or Illinois, or Indiana, or the Northwestern Nobodies (who kicked our azzzes), or the Penn St Sanduskys, or the MaryFairLand Fairies or the Rutgers Red Azzzes.
What a total shiiiett show the SLOW 10 is for Nebraska !!
Horrible decision to go to the SLOW 10. It will kill NU football. Mark my words. NU is now officially a national laughingstock after today losing to PooPoo U.
and it aint gonna get better by firing the coach. the loss of State of Texas recruiting has been a catastrophe for NU football and there is no light at the end of the tunnel.
No decent recruit gives two shiiiiets about watching NU play the Minnesota Moles or the PooPooPurdue Poopers. Or Illinois, or Indiana, or the Northwestern Nobodies (who kicked our azzzes), or the Penn St Sanduskys, or the MaryFairLand Fairies or the Rutgers Red Azzzes.
What a total shiiiett show the SLOW 10 is for Nebraska !!
Horrible decision to go to the SLOW 10. It will kill NU football. Mark my words. NU is now officially a national laughingstock after today losing to PooPoo U.
Cotton is exponentially better than the current staff. And that is painful to admit.
Big 10 is death for NU football sad to say. Shoulda stayed in Big 12.
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Sadly when you watch Ohio, Frank still has the same indecision and game management issues (delay penalties) he had when he was the head coach at NU. I still would have taken him back over the Pelini hire any day of the week. What is odd is that Tom evidently never even considered it. Too many $$$ wanted to play golf with Bo I guess.
I'll just say this. Nothing, and I mean nothing pi$$es me off in sports more than any so-called "fan" who proclaims the death of Nebraska football. Such a person should be totally and completely ashamed to ever speak such things and should never, ever come back because why would they follow something that is dead? I seriously don't know what is wrong with people sometimes.
We have the RB who dominated the championship game of the highest level of Texas high school football on the team and he doesn't even get an opportunity to show if he can make a difference. What difference does it make where the players come from if the coaches are too crappy to utilize the quality players that are on the roster already?
I would take that over this patty cake offense any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
NOW officially a national laughingstock after today? I think it was much sooner. 70-10 loss to Texas Tech in 2004 and blowout loss to Kansas (yes Kansas) in 2007 were national laughers.
We follow the dead every day in every way with monuments, stories, and warm memories. When people discuss the death of Nebraska football, what they mean is the death of Nebraska as a perennial powerhouse competing year in and year out for national championships. We've gone from a team that couldn't win big games to a team that loses to Illinois, Purdue, and Northwestern in the same season. The dead (or nearly dead) can come back with the right ingredients, but Riley is no miracle worker.
Well you are in the sh_t now for sure. You will not fix this until you get the right AD. You remind me of OU (my school) during the Gary Gibbs, Howard Schnellenberger, John Blake Fiasco. We would still be there if it had not been for getting Joe Castiglione as AD - with his firing of Blake and hiring of Stoops we began to recover. Barry Switzer had recommended John Blake and that was a disaster (I love Barry but that really hurt OU). You have the same sort of scenario except that Tom Osborne also got you moved to the Big 10. So besides finding the right AD and the right coach you have to compete for recruits in your geographical conference area which is very new to you (except for Iowa). More importantly Nebraska is new to Big 10 area high schools, coaches, and recruits and that impacts recruiting. The right AD likely means poaching one from another Big 10 school, the right coach is going to be a tough choice considering the recruiting limits you have self incurred. You were a major tradition in the Big 8 area and with the Big 12, Texas became an even better recruiting area for Nebraska. Coaches can do a lot but quality players build tradition. You have a very long road ahead, but I like your school and like your people. Good luck!!
You guys kill me. No one cares about the Big 12. That's why the TV revenues are SO MUCH HIGHER in the B1G and why you are here.
The problem is the same that Penn State discovered. THIS IS THE B1G. You aren't as great as you thought, when you go up against B1G teams day in and day out instead of that weak *** sheiss in the Big 12.
Oh, and you never should have gotten rid of Solich.
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The Big 10 - bowl record is poor at best against other conferences and is a perennial loser of the Rose Bowl. Nebraska has slipped to below mediocrity and that is why they are losing to bottom dwelling Big 10 teams.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. B1G teams smashed the SEC, ACC, and Pac-10 champions last year in the bowls, and as much as I hate to say it, dOSU is the reigning national champion (and #1 team in the country). The B1G also played in the Playoffs unlike the Big 12, who got jumped because they are irrelevant. That's just the nature of things.
And if the B1G blows then why are you at the bottom, where you never were in the Big 12? Everything is relative. Of course, you guys wish you were back in the Big 12. That's totally understandable.
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EvanstonCat... Assuming Northwestern, right? I thought everybody at Northwestern was smart... I kid! Cool
Look at the person you are quoting, and his screen name. TCU in the name suggests that maybe he is a fan of, I don't know, TCU? This is not a husker fan you are making fun of, but someone currently in the Big 12, who never had Solich as a coach.
My advice, look at screen names before posting.
Again, screen name is important, but not 100%. In this case, the screen name of the person you are quoting has Houston in it. Maybe he is a cougars fan? Oh, wait, he says clearly in one of his posts that his school is OU (That would be Oklahoma, since you are struggling mightily here). Maybe you should punch the eject button on this thread...
Ohio State won the first College Football Playoff.
Where was the Big 12?
What happened to Baylor during the 2014 bowl season?
The Big 12 has Oklahoma State, Baylor and TCU. Texas A&M bolted to the SEC and is competitive, as we have seen with Missouri. Missouri lost last season to Indiana.
Texas lost at Iowa State 24-0 in Ames. Both are tied for fifth place in the Big 12.
The Big 12 may be relevant, but they will likely eat there own again.
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Where was the Big 12?
What happened to Baylor during the 2014 bowl season?
The Big 12 has Oklahoma State, Baylor and TCU. Texas A&M bolted to the SEC and is competitive, as we have seen with Missouri. Missouri lost last season to Indiana.
Texas lost at Iowa State 24-0 in Ames. Both are tied for fifth place in the Big 12.
The Big 12 may be relevant, but they will likely eat there own again.
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Yes, Ohio State won the first College Playoff and deservedly so, but in the prior BCS (1998-2014) the Big 10 played 3 times for the title - all by OSU and won one time. No other Big 10 team even played for the title. The Big 12 played 7 times and won twice with 3 different teams. This is not to bad mouth the Big 10, but I do not think you can take one year and claim the Big 12 is irrelevant as the idiot Northwestern poster claimed. My comment about Nebraska being in the sh_t is more about what they are up against in turning their program around. The move to the Big 10 or any other conference has huge recruiting implications. Nebraska use to go to Missouri, Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas and Texas and come away with major talent. They knew high schools, coaches, etc. To do so in the Big 10 will take some time because they are new, so hence the major challenge awaiting them. I say that as a friend of Nebraska. We played them in a major national game every year while we were in the Big 8 and played them roughly every two years in the Big 12. They have classy fans and are good people. I wish them well.