The Ethan Bright situation must be pretty damn serious. ...
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doesn't put up with much BS. Bright better get his drinking problem or whatever under control real quick.
When he played here, Cohen's MSU teams were one giant drinking problem. Well, now that I think about it, there really wasn't a problem. They were either drunk or on the field, and possible both at times. And they won games. I guess that's not a problem.
is his stated zero tolerance policy on alcohol. If you try to literally enforce that policy, you're not going to be able to find 9 guys to put on the field and if you don't then why set yourself up by having a policy you're not going to enforce? Then players are left wondering which rules they have to follow and which ones they don't.
It's in "the book". First chapter I believe.
Cohen needs to teach him the MSU way of baseball player's not getting caught, because yes, MSU baseball players drinking has been going on probably since they started the team.
I think this is one of those if you do it, you better not get caught rules.
Unfortunately for Bright, he got caught.
It looks like to me, Cohen is trying to decide if he is going to kick him off of the team or not. As of now, he is suspended.
Cohen needs to teach him the MSU way of baseball player's not getting caught, because yes, MSU baseball players drinking has been going on probably since they started the team.
I think this is one of those if you do it, you better not get caught rules.
Unfortunately for Bright, he got caught.
It looks like to me, Cohen is trying to decide if he is going to kick him off of the team or not. As of now, he is suspended.
If he doesn't start winning games at MSU by 2011 at the very latest, I won't support him. Whether I agree with his policy on alcohol or not doesn't really matter. If he wins, he can have whatever policy he wants. If he doesn't, he needs to find another job.
how in the hell did he do so well at Kentucky with the same policy in place? (assuming he did) many have cited the change at Kentucky as reason for him to have an opportunity to bring us back to the top of college baseball but you are telling me that isn't possible with this policy. so which one is it?
/anyways, i believe like others that it simply isn't enforced unless someone forces his hand...like getting a DUI or a MIP</p>
/anyways, i believe like others that it simply isn't enforced unless someone forces his hand...like getting a DUI or a MIP</p>
the team rules are if an underage baseball player is caught drinking he automatically gets kicked off the team.. Rules for 21+ are different I can't remember them, but they aren't supposed to drink either. Although I don't think Cohen will kick a player of Brights talent off the team. I assume Cohen tossed back a few in his day while playing here so I mean he knows how things work. Probably will just jump his *** and make him run and roll until he throws up. Lesson Learned: Dont get caught.
A player has to lose at least some respect for a coach who tells the team he's going to kick anybody off the team if they get caught drinking and then doesn't follow through. It's just like the first rule of parenting. Be consistent in your discipline and if you threaten something follow through with it. Why not just make the rule that if you're under 21 and get caught drinking you'll be suspended?
A rule like that has to somewhat be in place... Just run their *** until they throw up seems like a good punishment to me if you are going to have that rule..
when you recruit players, you don't want their parents to think that you are going to put their child in a situation where there is danger, or that you're running some rogue program that allows binge drinking, which is how our competitors in recruiting would try to make it out to be. And also to make sure that the players understand that there are consequences should they get caught. That's the key. Getting caught, or rather not getting caught.
And if Bright is kicked off of the team, I would have to say that Cohen is following through with his policy. Bright is certianly not out of the woods on this yet.
You don't honestly think that Cohen can babysit all 43 of these players and if they do any little thing wrong, they're gone? I'm sure that Cohen knows his players drink beer/alcohol. I'm sure he knows what went on when he played. But the thing is, if I go up to Coach Cohen and say, "Hey, Nick Routt and I had a beer the other night at Mugshot's", well that's hearsay. Now, if the police catch Nick Routt naked on Main St. holding a bottle of Jaeger in his hand, that's totally different.
Plus with drinking, it's legal for anyone over 21, so I can see the difference there.
I bet MC's baseball team drinks to, for whatever it's worth.
And if Bright is kicked off of the team, I would have to say that Cohen is following through with his policy. Bright is certianly not out of the woods on this yet.
You don't honestly think that Cohen can babysit all 43 of these players and if they do any little thing wrong, they're gone? I'm sure that Cohen knows his players drink beer/alcohol. I'm sure he knows what went on when he played. But the thing is, if I go up to Coach Cohen and say, "Hey, Nick Routt and I had a beer the other night at Mugshot's", well that's hearsay. Now, if the police catch Nick Routt naked on Main St. holding a bottle of Jaeger in his hand, that's totally different.
Plus with drinking, it's legal for anyone over 21, so I can see the difference there.
I bet MC's baseball team drinks to, for whatever it's worth.
I'm pretty sure any teetotaling parents can have their concerns taken care of by simply saying that we punish any players caught drinking pretty severely, including suspension, without having a policy that they're automatically kicked off the team.
For what it is worth... he isn't kicked off the team... he is suspended indefinitely. Now, I don't think his future looks great, but he isn't gone for now. And secondly, whatever the rule is... it doesn't really matter in this case because I'm told there is more to it.
But for now, he isn't on the field... and only Coach Cohen knows when and if he will earn his way onto the team.
But for now, he isn't on the field... and only Coach Cohen knows when and if he will earn his way onto the team.
A. We really don't know what Cohen's policy on alcohol is in the first place. At least I don't, and if someone truly does, than feel free to educate all of us. Otherwise, this is no different than going to the mall, watching a child act up and say- "If I was their parent I would do __."
B. We really don't know exactly what Bright did, or how many times he has been caught, which sounds to me that this has happened more than once, and on top of that we don't know what else Bright has or hasn't done.
C. I'm going to let John Cohen punish and do whatever he thinks is appropriate for his team. I have seen nothing to indicate that he is losing control of the team or anything like that. Cohen knows what's going with Bright, and I'm 100% sure that he is going to handle it, and he's going to handle it the right way. That's my stance until he proves me wrong.
B. We really don't know exactly what Bright did, or how many times he has been caught, which sounds to me that this has happened more than once, and on top of that we don't know what else Bright has or hasn't done.
C. I'm going to let John Cohen punish and do whatever he thinks is appropriate for his team. I have seen nothing to indicate that he is losing control of the team or anything like that. Cohen knows what's going with Bright, and I'm 100% sure that he is going to handle it, and he's going to handle it the right way. That's my stance until he proves me wrong.
to me, it's more than a silly mistake.
But anyway, you may not want your child playing for a team like that, but a lot of parents-especially Moms do. Especially in the Bible Belt.
Honestly, if I had a son on the baseball team, and he gets arrested, I would be really, really, surprised if the coach did nothing about it. All this "silly dubmass rule" (paraphrasing in general, not quoting you) is saying is obey the law. I know personally, that as far as college coach goes, yeah, I would want him to care about whether or not his players went to jail or not. If I was Byrne, I would to.
It's not like someone misses BP or skips a class and they're kicked off of the team.
But anyway, you may not want your child playing for a team like that, but a lot of parents-especially Moms do. Especially in the Bible Belt.
Honestly, if I had a son on the baseball team, and he gets arrested, I would be really, really, surprised if the coach did nothing about it. All this "silly dubmass rule" (paraphrasing in general, not quoting you) is saying is obey the law. I know personally, that as far as college coach goes, yeah, I would want him to care about whether or not his players went to jail or not. If I was Byrne, I would to.
It's not like someone misses BP or skips a class and they're kicked off of the team.
i did it, it would be hypocritical to not acknowledge that. To say a player is kicked off for drinking is silly.
I think most parents teach their kids how to act before college. So I seriously doubt parents really discuss or look in depth on how coaches punish players for drinking. I doubt it even goes through a mom or dads mind... Hmmm Coach Cohen kicks drinkers off the team. So does Coach Bianco. So does Coach Mainieri. Oh I see that Coach Garrido doesn't have any drinking rules since you are a 17 up son looks like you are going to Texas.Todd4State said:
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However, he did get arrested and there are other charges to go along with the MIP's.
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The one thing this board supports more than the right to ***** and moan is the right to be a drunk.
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we don't know what Cohen's rule says. Unless someone comes forward and definatively says that is Cohen's policy, which no one has, then we won't know. Apparently based on the Ethan Bright situation that's not the case as he is still on the team, but is suspended.
maybe that was just message board fodder though. But that being the rule is what I'm talking about, and most of us in the thread. If it's just you will be punished, then it's not ridiculous.