The game has passed Mike Krzyzewski by.
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You can bet if Coach K had the same resume as Huggins over the last 10 years, the rumbling from the Duke faithful would be far worse than what you're seeing from the Mountaineer faithful.
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6th straight loss on the road, including instate oklahoma tcu and texas type teams, they can't score and regress so badly on offense from top to bottom and are below .500 in conference after yet another year of mass defection and one final 4 in a couple decades. OH WAIT, that's not coach K's team.....
But, with all those titles and great resume / reputation you would think a God coach like him would not lose on the road to a 12-15 Wake Forest. A team they beat by 31 previously.
Duke fans complain about similar things as WVU...
Keep playing Goldwire and Duke is an easy out in NCAAs
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New Can’t shoot. Maybe he plays good defense but his man out scored him 6 to 1.
His 2 bad turnovers at the end of regulation gave Wake the game.
He should play 10-12 minutes a game. No more.
1 acc hoops, Yesterday at 9:59 PM
Keep playing Goldwire and Duke is an easy out in NCAAs
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New Can’t shoot. Maybe he plays good defense but his man out scored him 6 to 1.
His 2 bad turnovers at the end of regulation gave Wake the game.
He should play 10-12 minutes a game. No more.
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New Maybe this was discussed...but why didn't he play?
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Duke has made the NCAA tournament every year for the last 10. Made it to the sweet 16 7 of those 10. Elite 8 5 of those. 2 to the Final Four with 2 National Titles. Multiple wins against top 10 teams during that time. That's the kind of resume where a road loss to an unranked team can eaaily be chalked up to a one off or "even good teams lose on the road from time to time." Compare that to 7 NCAA appearances in the last 10 years. 4 sweet 16 appearances. 1 Final Four and zero championships. Along with a losing record to ranked teams during that time and it's a bit harder to not notice the pattern of subpar play on the road this season to bad teams.
...... and everyone in Durham NC say:
THANK YOU NIKE, for paying for all the players and family members tons of cash, cars, apartments, etc. so Coach K can keep winning!
THANK YOU NIKE, for paying for all the players and family members tons of cash, cars, apartments, etc. so Coach K can keep winning!
Give McBride some time.
It is truthfully on him in these games. Huggins can only work with what he has. He has young guards that sometimes get overwhelmed.
These are learning moments. The most important thing is how these players progress.
Failure is going to happen to every team in college basketball.
Without failure it is hard for teams to beat teams that have experienced failure and have learned from it.
Just look at Baylor in 2018-2019.
They weren't dominating teams. They had ups and downs but they tasted failure and this year they are a legit Top 5 team and possible #1 seed.
And this has what to do with getting beat on the road to a 12-15 Wake Forest team that they beat by 31? Your saying Duke can lose to terrible teams because of their review mirror resume. Which has nothing to do with the here and now. Sounds like Bull **** talk to me.
Seems to me you are framing Duke losing to Wake Forest as a "see it happens to even the best teams" in response to the negative posters commenting on how poorly WVU has done on the road. Can't have it both ways because if the past doesn't matter, Duke losing on the road is as relevant as Marshall losing on the road. If it is relevant, which is the only way your posting about Duke losing carries any relevance, then I'm saying that equating Duke losing on the road to Wake Forest as a reason to be more sanguine about how terrible the middle of this season has been for WVU is not a fair comparison. It is unreasonable to be seriously upset with a coach whose teams lately have never missed the tournament, have a 70% rate of outlasting 3/4 of the field, 50% rate of outlasting 7/8 of the field, and 20% rate of winning the national championship. Not to mention that coach has a top 10 team that while having bad losses, have some good wins and haven't gone on a skid of losing several games it had a decent chance of winning. Compare that to a coach who during that same period presided over 2 sub .500 seasons, missed the tournament 30% of the time, exceeded 3/4 of the field 4 times, exceeded 15/16 of the field once and no national championships. Not to mention the latter coach presides over a borderline top 25 team that has lost 8 of it's 15 conference game including 2 to NIT level teams and 2 to bubble teams. Comparatively, it is far more reasonable for a fan base to be concerned about the latter over the former.
Oh so it's ok for a top 10 Duke to lose on the road to 12-15 unranked just because of their past achievements. But not ok for a ranked WVU team to do the same.
There is no need to compare what 1 team has done in their past. Duke losing to a 12-15 road team should not be acceptable either.
To me it's nit picking at it's finest.
There is no need to compare what 1 team has done in their past. Duke losing to a 12-15 road team should not be acceptable either.
To me it's nit picking at it's finest.
On both counts there is a difference. There is a difference between the two coaches/teams you are trying to compare in past years AND the current year. Regarding this year, one has truly had the occasional hiccup where they were upset and the other has had several losses they shouldn't have including a losing conference record. Hence its not an equitable comparison. The following is true:
1. Even good teams will have hiccups and upsets here and there and jumping ship at an upset is premature.
2. WVU is not having hiccups and upsets here and there this year. WVU has 9 losses and 6 of them were to teams that WVU is capable of beating and 5 of them that WVU SHOULD have beaten based upon ranking (SJU, KSU, Texas, TCU, OU). WVU also doesn't have an elite win
3. Past performance matters not just in sports but in all things. If you have a track record of excellence, then an occasional unexpected set back is more easily forgiven because you've proven capable in the past and thus its easier to view the occasions as aberrations. If your track record is average to above average, but you have frequent unexpected set backs it is more difficult to blow off the most recent setback. That's because it looks more like a pattern and the negative of that pattern will be weighed against the highs.
H SFA
@ Clemson
@ NC State
@ Wake Forest
4 games Duke should have won
their 5th loss @Louisville so that is understandable.
Top 25 teams are losing at a high rate this season to unranked teams.
Lot of wacky stuff is happening this season. WVU started ranked 50th this year for a reason. People over hyped WVU so now they're pissed because reality is setting in. This team is far better than last years team. But are not a final 4 conference championship team.
You can believe their dead if you want but I choose not to.
WVU started 50 and Michigan State started number 1. Those were speculation. With the information we have from games played, Big 12 only has 4 highly likely dancers despite the parity in college basketball this year. After 16 games, WVU had a slip up against St John's, a competitive loss to Kansas, and definitive win against a ranked TTU. Then they would go on to get blown out by a badly by KSU and Baylor, the former being a flat out bad team. Lose handily to bubble teams in OU and Texas. Get beat by a bad TCU squad. Only solace is competitive losses to TTU and Kansas. It's not a stretch to say WVU proved to be capable of better after the first half of the season. So the lack of marquee wins and going 4-5 against teams that a solidly in the dance squad should be expected to win since that hot start is disheartening.
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Not crying, just comparing and contrasting 2 different things. This year's team is better than last year's. If that is your only care or frame of reference, then be happy. Although that is a pretty low expectation given how bad we were last year. Personally after 28 games I prefer to compare how the team started the season versus where they are now. Unfortunately they seem to have regressed somewhat and are not playing to the potential they showed early in the season. Looked pretty good for 16 games and now the last 12 have looked pretty rough. I just think 12 games is a bit long to just be a slump in the college basketball world and is concerning for regression. Certainly it's not improvement which I think most would like to see in a young team. I think most coaches and athletes want see their team get better as time goes on. Since this young team looked so good to start and that generally teams, especially young teams, improve as the season goes along it's understandable that some fan's got their hopes up that this team would be more than just an improvement over last year. It's not doom and gloom, but we have the pieces to better than what we've seen over the last 6 weeks.
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Lmao
Which is better?
5 rings 0 rings?
He also lost to a NIT NC State team the same year he beat Huggins in the Final Four.
#FAIL
Which is better?
5 rings 0 rings?
He also lost to a NIT NC State team the same year he beat Huggins in the Final Four.
#FAIL