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<blockquote data-quote="The Bell Tolls for Thee" data-source="post: 131209576" data-attributes="member: 1812660"><p>Seems to me you are framing Duke losing to Wake Forest as a &quot;see it happens to even the best teams&quot; in response to the negative posters commenting on how poorly WVU has done on the road.&nbsp; Can't have it both ways because if the past doesn't matter, Duke losing on the road is as relevant as Marshall losing on the road.&nbsp; If it is relevant, which is the only way your posting about Duke losing carries any relevance, then I'm saying that equating Duke losing on the road to Wake Forest as a reason to be more sanguine about how terrible the middle of this season has been for WVU is not a fair comparison.&nbsp; It is unreasonable to be seriously upset with a coach whose teams lately have never missed the tournament, have a 70% rate of outlasting 3/4 of the field, 50% rate of outlasting 7/8 of the field, and 20% rate of winning the national championship.&nbsp; Not to mention that coach has a top 10 team that while having bad losses, have some good wins and haven't gone on a skid of losing several games it had a decent chance of winning.&nbsp; Compare that to a coach who during that same period presided over 2 sub .500 seasons, missed the tournament 30% of the time, exceeded 3/4 of the field 4 times, exceeded 15/16 of the field once and no national championships.&nbsp; Not to mention the latter coach presides over a borderline top 25 team that has lost 8 of it's 15 conference game including 2 to NIT level teams and 2 to bubble teams.&nbsp; Comparatively, it is far more reasonable for a fan base to be concerned about the latter over the former.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="The Bell Tolls for Thee, post: 131209576, member: 1812660"] Seems to me you are framing Duke losing to Wake Forest as a "see it happens to even the best teams" in response to the negative posters commenting on how poorly WVU has done on the road. Can't have it both ways because if the past doesn't matter, Duke losing on the road is as relevant as Marshall losing on the road. If it is relevant, which is the only way your posting about Duke losing carries any relevance, then I'm saying that equating Duke losing on the road to Wake Forest as a reason to be more sanguine about how terrible the middle of this season has been for WVU is not a fair comparison. It is unreasonable to be seriously upset with a coach whose teams lately have never missed the tournament, have a 70% rate of outlasting 3/4 of the field, 50% rate of outlasting 7/8 of the field, and 20% rate of winning the national championship. Not to mention that coach has a top 10 team that while having bad losses, have some good wins and haven't gone on a skid of losing several games it had a decent chance of winning. Compare that to a coach who during that same period presided over 2 sub .500 seasons, missed the tournament 30% of the time, exceeded 3/4 of the field 4 times, exceeded 15/16 of the field once and no national championships. Not to mention the latter coach presides over a borderline top 25 team that has lost 8 of it's 15 conference game including 2 to NIT level teams and 2 to bubble teams. Comparatively, it is far more reasonable for a fan base to be concerned about the latter over the former. [/QUOTE]

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