The game was lost

dannyripms

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The game was lost when we got the lead in second qrt. Got the ball back and did nothing with it. Had we of scored the momentum would of been clearly in our favor. There are times in a game when just a few plays make all the difference. But dan need to go. Bring on HUD!!!!!
 

klong-dog

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Yeah that was when we missed a 3rd and short with Russell throwing a 100 mph FB high and wide to Lewis, only being 5 yards in front of him. No touch. Then we missed a wheel route sometime around then.
 

drt7891

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Yup. That set them up to freakin manslaughter us on the next drive

(we gave up a 22 yard 4th and 5 conversion, mind you) and they put it in with no problem.

I'll also argue that the game would/could have been much different if someone would have kept their damn hands out of Mett's facemask on the first drive. He was sacked on a 3rd down play that would have made it 4th and 5+, but nope... we gave them a first down and allowed them to score 7 instead of 3
 

skb124

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No, Russell through the slant and Lewis stopped to hold in the open space. If Lewis keeps running his route it is a catch with some good green in front of him.
 

dogfan96

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That's exactly what happened..

Russell threw him into open space and he didn't continue the route.. should've been a big play
 

Heawww

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You're right on when the game was lost, but it wasn't Mullen's fault. A Sr. QB has to make that 10 yard throw.

Highly doubt Hud would do any better than Mullen. Need to stop with that.
 

Philly Dawg

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Also could have used a first down when Russell missed Lewis. Would have prevented them from taking the lead before the half. Despite that, I thought we should have gone back to Russell more in the second half.

Those two wide receivers that LSU has are both superstars. They are going to be very hard to handle by anyone, but with the secondary being the weakness of our defense, they were eventually going to exploit it and build a lead, force us to take more risks, etc.
 

Kickflip

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It amazes me how we can play all world defense when they have a 1st and goal, but when they have a 3rd and 19 we will give their receivers a 25 yard cushion and a 3 man rush. genius.
 

jcdawgman18

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I don't think Russell missed Lewis; I don't think they were on the same page.

Jameon felt like he had the first and was open and sat it down, Russell saw the open space in front and threw the slant for him to catch it on the run. Could see Jameon panic when he turned and realized he wouldn't get there once he'd checked up. That's a result of those guys not playing in a game together in a month. Having said that, the result of the play was huge.
 

Heawww

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You're likely correct. Oh well, we likely wouldn't have won anyway, seeing how they just rolled the whole second half.
 

drt7891

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Apples to oranges. Goal line defense is completely different than defense in the middle of the field. I don't like the 3rd and 18 call, but it's unfair to compare those two scenarios because they are nowhere near the same.
 

was21

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Hudspeth would not do any better as HC at State than Mullen.
 

Kickflip

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Completely agree they are different situations. I just wish the results were actually stopping the offense no matter the location on the field.
 

drt7891

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And we can both agree on that. It seemed early on our defensive goal was to key on the run, and aside from two runs, we did that. But giving their best WRs free reign to play pitch and catch neutralized anything we were trying to do to stop the run. Give mett credit, though. He made the throws. We didn't and we did a poor job defensively gameplanning
 

fishwater99

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That and the fact that TR did not start the 2nd half. We went with DAK and we gave up on the run.
Dan out coached himself once again.
 

NCDawg.sixpack

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You're right on when the game was lost, but it wasn't Mullen's fault. A Sr. QB has to make that 10 yard throw.

Highly doubt Hud would do any better than Mullen. Need to stop with that.

I think Mullen is a good coach. Only problem is that he can't recruit well. I think that has pretty well been established.

I thought Mullen called a good game last night. It seems to me our primary problem right now is our LB and DB play. I noted that one particular LB had a good shot to bring down Hill on both of his TD's. He made feeble efforts and Hill scored both times. Of course our DB's weren't in the same class with LSU's W'R's. I also thought our OL played well most of the night. Our RT did miss a block on a pass back across the field which would have probably resulted in a TD for us, but overall, I thought they did ok.
 

Heawww

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I think Mullen is a good coach. Only problem is that he can't recruit well. I think that has pretty well been established.

I think our recruiting has gotten better every year he's been here. Our last two classes were good.
 

121Josey

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<<THIS>>

That and the fact that TR did not start the 2nd half. We went with DAK and we gave up on the run.
Dan out coached himself once again.

Not that Russell had to start, but he needed to play a few series. Did they really think that LSU would not figure them out?

Dan went conservative in the 3rd when everybody knew we would have to score on every possession to beat them.

BTW, love the "get it all back now" playcalling down 12 leading to the INT in the 4th. Helped make the decision easier to leave early.
 

KODog

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The game was lost when our defense ran out of gas in the second half. They played hard. The coaches called a good game. LSU has maybe the best offense they've ever had. No one play would've made a hill of beans difference in how this game turned out.....They had better athletes; period....
 

TaleofTwoDogs

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Watch the replay. It was a poor-*** call by the ref. The LB touched the QB's face mask and quickly withdrew his hand. The QB's head didn't even turn.
 

drt7891

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It didn't matter. A Facemask will get called even if it's a very small amount. I'm not arguing about the official making the call, I'm arguing that we had plenty of people around Mett to make sure he couldn't get the pass off without getting our hands near his facemask.
 

patdog

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Wrong. If Bell makes the FG and if we'd gone for 1 on the first TD, we're down 38-30 instead of 38-26 and we're not throwing all the time with Dak at QB (should have brought Russell in when we got down by 12) so he likely doesn't throw the pick. We would still lose, but it would have been more like 45-30.
 

LawDawg97

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You do realize that if we make the field goal the entire game changes right?

If Bell made the Field Goal, the final score would've been 59-29.

It's called the butterfly effect. If we make it, they don't take over where we missed, we kickoff to them. For all you know they fumble that kickoff return, or they throw a pick 6 on the next play. However unlikely, there is absolutely no way to know that the score just stays the same, because field position and play calling completely changes.
 

fishwater99

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Dan decided that he would go with DAK in the 3rd and let him throw the ball.
TR was MIA. He should have kept the rotation or gone with TR...
 

patdog

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It's only supposed to be called if the player pulls on the facemask. When they eliminated the 5-yard facemask a few years ago, they didn't just change all facemasks to 15 yards. The old 15-yard facemask penalty didn't change. The change was that the old 5-yard facemask is not a penalty. That probably shouldn't have been called.