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<blockquote data-quote="The Bell Tolls for Thee" data-source="post: 131265272" data-attributes="member: 1812660"><p>You seem to be reading things into what is being said.&nbsp; Not any old dolt can do my job and my job does require specific college education in the field.&nbsp; However, not all jobs do.&nbsp; Most actually don't.&nbsp; And even if they do, just having a degree doesn't distinguish you much when dozens of other candidates have the same degree.&nbsp; I'm not saying there is no value for education, I'm saying people are not valuing education but rather valuing a degree.&nbsp; They think that by having that degree it shows they are educated and it should result in a lucrative job.&nbsp; There are plenty of learning opportunities even at small or non prestigious schools for the students that seek them out.&nbsp; And education in things other than purely practical job skills such as history, philosophy, etc... are not completely useless. However a majority of graduates just do the bare minimum which has been so diluted that it means next to nothing to &quot;just have a degree&quot; unless it's in a select few fields.&nbsp; When the only requirement now for getting into a college is having a pulse and the ability to sign loan paperwork the school will actually pretty much do for you, going to college puts in with a not very selective bunch.&nbsp; And when a majority of them can graduate while doing less than 40 hours of work per week, coming out the otherside isn't a very selective bunch either.&nbsp; Unfortunately people still view just having a college degree now like having a college degree in the 50's.&nbsp; Problem is having a degree in the 50's was more like being elite special forces in the military than our higher learning centers are now.&nbsp; Even if you were the worst person to ever make it through, you were still elite because just getting in was selective and the bare minimum to graduate was still a higher bar to clear.&nbsp; Today you must do MORE than just have a degree to set yourself apart and that can be done within the education system or without.&nbsp; But just doing what it takes to obtain a 4 year degree in most fields of study isn't the pathway to a higher paying job and most people who start that journey are under the impression it is.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="The Bell Tolls for Thee, post: 131265272, member: 1812660"] You seem to be reading things into what is being said. Not any old dolt can do my job and my job does require specific college education in the field. However, not all jobs do. Most actually don't. And even if they do, just having a degree doesn't distinguish you much when dozens of other candidates have the same degree. I'm not saying there is no value for education, I'm saying people are not valuing education but rather valuing a degree. They think that by having that degree it shows they are educated and it should result in a lucrative job. There are plenty of learning opportunities even at small or non prestigious schools for the students that seek them out. And education in things other than purely practical job skills such as history, philosophy, etc... are not completely useless. However a majority of graduates just do the bare minimum which has been so diluted that it means next to nothing to "just have a degree" unless it's in a select few fields. When the only requirement now for getting into a college is having a pulse and the ability to sign loan paperwork the school will actually pretty much do for you, going to college puts in with a not very selective bunch. And when a majority of them can graduate while doing less than 40 hours of work per week, coming out the otherside isn't a very selective bunch either. Unfortunately people still view just having a college degree now like having a college degree in the 50's. Problem is having a degree in the 50's was more like being elite special forces in the military than our higher learning centers are now. Even if you were the worst person to ever make it through, you were still elite because just getting in was selective and the bare minimum to graduate was still a higher bar to clear. Today you must do MORE than just have a degree to set yourself apart and that can be done within the education system or without. But just doing what it takes to obtain a 4 year degree in most fields of study isn't the pathway to a higher paying job and most people who start that journey are under the impression it is. [/QUOTE]

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