The hogs are terrible.....

Shamoan

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Need some Rugb to defeat all this optimism. Screw all y'all!!! We suck and cohenz needs to be fired.
 

tatedog

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I'm guessing Van Horn is about as fun to be around right now as Cohen was this time last season.
 

rugbdawg

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Van Horn wasn't at the game
tonight. He was speaking at his daughter's high school graduation.
 

tatedog

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He would probably rather speak at the Fayetteville Garden Club than watch this team play right now.
 

HammerOfTheDogs

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Arkansas used to be a powerhouse. I remember back in the day, they'd school us. Now they just look beaten down.
 

rugbdawg

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I've already pointed this out but I think it needs to be repeated. Van Horn was not at the game last night due to speaking at his daughter's high school graduation. Family is important and all but you are a VERY well
paid head coach of a top 20/25 program. They have been so good for so many years but if there ever was a sign that a coach's heart is not in it anymore, there you go. This info was reported by Ellis during our pre game. For Van Horn's sake, I hope Ellis misunderstood/miscommunicated the reason.

What if Mullen's team was tanking and he decided to skip a meaningless SEC game late in year(like Arkansas) to speak at his child's graduation (I know graduation isn't in the fall)? The Van Horn situation is worse, however, because they are fighting for a tourney spot. If I was a senior or a draft eligible junior playing for Van Horn, I'd be especially pissed.
 

121Josey

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This will be the first postseason DVH has ever missed at Arky in his 14th season. He's been to 4 CWS, including last season.

Fahr DVH!*

And people get their panties in a wad when someone writes Fahr Coinz.
 
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The Peeper

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He missed a game a couple years ago for the same reason and they weren't tanking then. I don't think it says anything about where his mind is
 
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Xenomorph

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So the more you're paid, the less your family should be a priority for you? And would it have been better if he'd missed a practice? Or maybe a recruiting visit?

I'm guessing you don't realize this but of all big 3 sports the baseball coach has the least effect on winning/losing during the actual game.
 

RocketDawg

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I can't blame the guy at all. His daughter doesn't graduate every day, and he was the speaker. Sounds to me like he has his priorities just right.
 

rugbdawg

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I don't blame the guy for wanting to be at graduation. He does have his priorities straight but it's not acceptable at this level of the sport AND at this pay grade. I have chosen my family over higher paying jobs many times but I'm not a state employee making $700K to one million dollars a year (Van Horn's pay table).

Just to be clear, you would be ok with Mullen skipping a football game once every 3 years for a family function? (Excluding funerals and health concerns). What about Howland skipping a SEC game every other year?
 

rugbdawg

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Do all the players get the weekend off to see their little brother or sister

graduate?
 

121Josey

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I've already pointed this out but I think it needs to be repeated. Van Horn was not at the game last night due to speaking at his daughter's high school graduation. Family is important and all but you are a VERY well
paid head coach of a top 20/25 program. They have been so good for so many years but if there ever was a sign that a coach's heart is not in it anymore, there you go. This info was reported by Ellis during our pre game. For Van Horn's sake, I hope Ellis misunderstood/miscommunicated the reason.

What if Mullen's team was tanking and he decided to skip a meaningless SEC game late in year(like Arkansas) to speak at his child's graduation (I know graduation isn't in the fall)? The Van Horn situation is worse, however, because they are fighting for a tourney spot. If I was a senior or a draft eligible junior playing for Van Horn, I'd be especially pissed.

Have you not considered that he "accepted" an invitation to speak so that he could attend his daughter's graduation. As has been pointed out, 30 SEC BB games vs. 8 SEC football games - but which do you think would require more hands-on coaching? Do you not think Van Horn couldn't coach his team from his cellphone - especially going against the #4 team and a 1st Round MLB prospect?
 

rugbdawg

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What if the roles were reversed? What if it was Van Horn's team that was playing for the SEC championship?

Of course, he intentionally accepted an invitation to speak prior to the season so that he would have a good excuse to attend the graduation. This was worked out prior to the season. It wasn't a decision made last week. That's not the issue.

It's clear that, like Van Horn, his team took the day off. Longest losing streak in 51 years...
 

rugbdawg

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If it was that important to him, donate 10K to the private school she attended and ask them to move the graduation.

The graduating class was only 90 people.
 

121Josey

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What if the roles were reversed? What if it was Van Horn's team that was playing for the SEC championship?

Of course, he intentionally accepted an invitation to speak prior to the season so that he would have a good excuse to attend the graduation. This was worked out prior to the season. It wasn't a decision made last week. That's not the issue.

It's clear that, like Van Horn, his team took the day off. Longest losing streak in 51 years...

Did you not say that the roles were reversed - are they not playing for place in the SEC tournament? Or did they decide before the season that this year wasn't the year to compete for the SEC championship - or a place in the tournament?

But what if the roles were reversed? What if it were Cohen having to miss the first game of this series? I would be jumping for joy. But no, not you. That's not your Schtick!!@!@!@!@!@!!@!!@!!@!@!@!!@!@!

So the streak started last night? Damn. More like a streak of lightning.
 

rugbdawg

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Good deal. Let me know next time Belichick misses a game because of his grandson's baptism.
 

121Josey

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Good deal. Let me know next time Belichick misses a game because of his grandson's baptism.

Apples n oranges, but you can't see that. Sorry. How about I tell you when Van Horn did it when they were ranked in the Top 10 in 2012? Dubmass.

In 2012, Van Horn missed the opening game of a series at Tennessee to attend the graduation of his oldest daughter at Shiloh Christian.
 

patdog

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I'll jump in here to add that at the very least, it's unusual for a head coach at this level to miss a game for a kid's graduation. I wouldn't do it if I had his job. And apparently, most other coaches don't either, or at least if they do, I don't remember it. But I do see the argument that it's just 1 game out of 30 (56 overall), and him not being there probably didn't have much effect on the outcome.
 

KurtRambis4

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Which is what

I've been saying the whole time. The newbies think it's some act, but when you look at the entire picture, and factor in when he tries to make "serious" points (I'm playing the game), you realize that he, in fact, is just a moron.
 

rugbdawg

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I have a very reasonable position that a majority of high level coaches seem to agree with. Seems you are the one having to resort to name calling.
 

rugbdawg

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Non-responsive. Fairy typical. You probably have more posts obsessing over me than any original thought you ever posted.
 

engie

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I've been saying the whole time. The newbies think it's some act, but when you look at the entire picture, and factor in when he tries to make "serious" points (I'm playing the game), you realize that he, in fact, is just a moron.

Yep.
 

KurtRambis4

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Well

when you make lots of dumb posts, I'm going to have lots of posts pointing it out. It's only logical.
 

johnson86-1

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This will be the first postseason DVH has ever missed at Arky in his 14th season. He's been to 4 CWS, including last season.

And there is the answer to the question of whether it's acceptable to skip a game for something like that. It's acceptable if you're valuable enough to pull it off.

If Mullen takes us to 14 straight bowls, 4 of which are Big 6 bowls or whatever the hell they are calling them now, then I won't ***** about him skipping a game for a graduation (or whatever the fall equivalent would be). Well, I'd *****, cause depending on the game it would have been at least 9 to 11 months since the last time he had us in a big six bowl, but I wouldn't want him fired.
 
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